thenotsoesoteric

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I unwittingly jumped the super moon gun and germinated 2 more lvtk x tang pow seeds on Thursday and both are now up and out of coco. One has no helmet but the other is still rocking the seed husk tightly so I'm hoping it bust out of it on its own.

So far I have two seeds working up and open in the rock wool, the bigger normal looking one in coco and this one in rock wool that looks like it'll come around. Hopefully find something worthy.
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thenotsoesoteric

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Here's a question to kick around.

What are people's feelings about reversing a female from feminized seeds?

Since the goji female didn't pan out I was thinking about reversing the blackberry pheno of black dog. I mean she is really nice, good bud to leaf ratio, fast flower, nice potency, great flavor and doesn't even smell like weed just straight berries.

I still have several regular seedling going to find a "normal" mom or an actual male, though I'm kind of digging the idea of making fems with this girl.
 

thenotsoesoteric

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I’m going to do it to a JellyBreath x PurplePunch plant , but I’m going to run them first before giving any away because the rest of them where all over the place but 1 was really good .

1 runt
2 Hermies
1 twin
1 junk yeild
1 PP leaner
1 JB leaner with a ok yield,

So not sure what I’ll get .
I wonder if it is the purple punch that is weird? I know some of the purple punch f2 or s1s or something came out not so good a while back, if I'm not mistaken.

That is about like my lvtk's offspring so far. 1 is normal looking, 3 have been twisted leaf weirdos with the one above looking like it'll grow out of it but the two other mutants I culled due to no/little growth.

I'm guessing the lvtk will do this mutant offspring thing regardless of the pollen donor but I'm thinking there will be nice phenos mixed in with the mutants.

I'll just give all the lvtk crosses away due to the mutants but I'm currently looking through the lvtk x tang pow to see if I can find another tk leaner to try as a mom. See if the mutant thing follows the lvtk everywhere or if I can get around it.
 

CoB_nUt

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Here's a question to kick around.

What are people's feelings about reversing a female from feminized seeds?

Since the goji female didn't pan out I was thinking about reversing the blackberry pheno of black dog. I mean she is really nice, good bud to leaf ratio, fast flower, nice potency, great flavor and doesn't even smell like weed just straight berries.

I still have several regular seedling going to find a "normal" mom or an actual male, though I'm kind of digging the idea of making fems with this girl.
Do it! I see no issue with reversing fem seed.As long as the gal is good and "pretty stable".
 

hillbill

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My last 3 plantings are Space Monkey x Sleeskunk, Copper Chem F2 (Amos) and Space Monkey F2. Tha Monkeys are all mid Hybreed lookin with subtle variations in each and have been topped and up potted. Copper Chem f2 are all 6 cracked and in Solos. Space Monkey f2 are in the Viva towel for planting tomorrow.

All chucks!
 

SSGrower

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Here's a question to kick around.

What are people's feelings about reversing a female from feminized seeds?

Since the goji female didn't pan out I was thinking about reversing the blackberry pheno of black dog. I mean she is really nice, good bud to leaf ratio, fast flower, nice potency, great flavor and doesn't even smell like weed just straight berries.

I still have several regular seedling going to find a "normal" mom or an actual male, though I'm kind of digging the idea of making fems with this girl.
I don't think you missed the window, I like to get seeds wet (cup or paper towel) about 3-5 days before perigee and in media 24-48 hrs later so they are alive and ready when the time comes. I see the other allignments of the solar system (to include at a minimum the planetary bodies that are visible by the naked eye) conjunction/opposition, planetary transits, ascention (for above ground), descention (for below ground)...these are like adding gravey to mashed potatoes.


I wish I knew enough to know if reversing a fem was a good idea.


Another question not related, does anyone know if photographic filter fabric is tight enough to contain pollen? I am thinking of making an enclosure within an enclosure for a more contained chucking setup. This way I hopefully dont need a full seperate setup to quarantine.
 

BigHornBuds

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I wonder if it is the purple punch that is weird? I know some of the purple punch f2 or s1s or something came out not so good a while back, if I'm not mistaken.

That is about like my lvtk's offspring so far. 1 is normal looking, 3 have been twisted leaf weirdos with the one above looking like it'll grow out of it but the two other mutants I culled due to no/little growth.

I'm guessing the lvtk will do this mutant offspring thing regardless of the pollen donor but I'm thinking there will be nice phenos mixed in with the mutants.

I'll just give all the lvtk crosses away due to the mutants but I'm currently looking through the lvtk x tang pow to see if I can find another tk leaner to try as a mom. See if the mutant thing follows the lvtk everywhere or if I can get around it.
It could be the PP , I also didn’t see many good reviews on it. But this is my only experience with PP.
 

BigHornBuds

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I don't think you missed the window, I like to get seeds wet (cup or paper towel) about 3-5 days before perigee and in media 24-48 hrs later so they are alive and ready when the time comes. I see the other allignments of the solar system (to include at a minimum the planetary bodies that are visible by the naked eye) conjunction/opposition, planetary transits, ascention (for above ground), descention (for below ground)...these are like adding gravey to mashed potatoes.


I wish I knew enough to know if reversing a fem was a good idea.


Another question not related, does anyone know if photographic filter fabric is tight enough to contain pollen? I am thinking of making an enclosure within an enclosure for a more contained chucking setup. This way I hopefully dont need a full seperate setup to quarantine.
I think your asking for trouble.
 

thenotsoesoteric

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I don't think you missed the window, I like to get seeds wet (cup or paper towel) about 3-5 days before perigee and in media 24-48 hrs later so they are alive and ready when the time comes. I see the other allignments of the solar system (to include at a minimum the planetary bodies that are visible by the naked eye) conjunction/opposition, planetary transits, ascention (for above ground), descention (for below ground)...these are like adding gravey to mashed potatoes.


I wish I knew enough to know if reversing a fem was a good idea.


Another question not related, does anyone know if photographic filter fabric is tight enough to contain pollen? I am thinking of making an enclosure within an enclosure for a more contained chucking setup. This way I hopefully dont need a full seperate setup to quarantine.
The problem with viable pollen is it floats so easily. Just a wave of the arm or something could send pollen outside your safe zone and remain there for weeks until it is blown back in a non safe zone. But it could work though chances of contamination/accidental pollination is higher than separate room/area.
 

CannaBruh

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The problem with viable pollen is it floats so easily. Just a wave of the arm or something could send pollen outside your safe zone and remain there for weeks until it is blown back in a non safe zone. But it could work though chances of contamination/accidental pollination is higher than separate room/area.
It's been a minute since I've said anything but it doesn't appear any of the old pollen I tried made any seeds. I'll know for sure digging through the buds but no apparent seeds.
 

CannaBruh

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Damn, hope you find a hidden gem or two. But at least we know there is a good reference for how long is definitely to long.
For sure best to lean on using sooner than later. That stuff was about 10 years old.
I have some aged mimosa pollen that has to be coming up on a year and has been stored at room temp in glass for the whole year. I'll give that a go at the 1yr mark (F2s) but need to dig through this thread to see about when I collected it from him.
 

SSGrower

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I think your asking for trouble.
The problem with viable pollen is it floats so easily. Just a wave of the arm or something could send pollen outside your safe zone and remain there for weeks until it is blown back in a non safe zone. But it could work though chances of contamination/accidental pollination is higher than separate room/area.
This would be inside the area where the plants that are intended to be pollinated are. So it technically is a seperate area and my main tent operates via positive pressure with filtered (carbon can and prefilter, by no means hepa). Currently the male is basically just in there, and the cabinet has no external ventilation, just gaps in doors and holes for cords. I am just looking to contain as much as possible. By no means do I have the capacity to have a clean room setting but having been in health and safety surrounding pharmaceuticals I am really looking to improve my secondary containment (currently a trash bag with a hole in the bottom. I am hoping the fabric is breathable so I will make a complete enclosure.
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I also want for him to get further along before going hog wild on the plant sex.

I use a spray bottle of water as a pre and post cabinet opening but based on some recent posts regarding pollinating with a spray bottle and water I am beginning g to question the efficacy.

Thank you both for the replies and insight, hopefully this clairifies my situation and objective.

Edit: the fabric is 12 bucks on amazon so I figure it is worth a shot, I'll report back.
 

ky farmer

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Here's a question to kick around.

What are people's feelings about reversing a female from feminized seeds?

Since the goji female didn't pan out I was thinking about reversing the blackberry pheno of black dog. I mean she is really nice, good bud to leaf ratio, fast flower, nice potency, great flavor and doesn't even smell like weed just straight berries.

I still have several regular seedling going to find a "normal" mom or an actual male, though I'm kind of digging the idea of making fems with this girl.
fem, beans have been reversd many times here with no problem,Look how long the strain of G-13 has been reversed and still going with no hearm troubeal at all.
 

CoB_nUt

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Two confirmed Goofy Grape females! The left and middle.They will be taken out of flower,up-potted into either a 1 or 2 gal smart pot,cloned, veg'd maybe a week and flipped. I usually run new beans au natural the first go around.I top(usually too early to take a decent clone), prune and heavily defoiliate in veg and up until about 3 weeks of flower.I'm gonna step outside my box and run them as if I know them.:bigjoint:
The 3rd goofy grape has yet to show.Any day now.

On another note,I have a nice clone of Sweet Dixie fresh out of the cloner and into a regular square quart pot. She has 5 maybe 6 nodes that haven't started alternating yet. I've half assed "mainlined" a few plants over the years.Maybe 3 plants since I've read the term popularized for a specific type of plant manipulation or LST.I say half assed because I usually do it from clones that are already mature and have alternating nodes so they don't come out as symmetrcial as nebula's or nugbucket's. Yet,it works for what I mainly use it for,an even canopy. With the Sweet Dixie clone as well as the Goofy Grapes' subsequent clones I am going to attempt a couple I guess "true" mainline tech on them.

Smh...wrote all that out to say I've found I can still mainline a clone if I take the clone and root it before nodes start alternating as opposed to supercropping branches to slow them down to even them out like I do with my usual clones and as they do in those tutorials.

**Ever go back and read your post before hitting "post reply" and just want to delete the whole f$@!ing thing? Like....."dude wtf are you thinking,wtf is your point!?"....
Fuck it :arrow:
 

genuity

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Two confirmed Goofy Grape females! The left and middle.They will be taken out of flower,up-potted into either a 1 or 2 gal smart pot,cloned, veg'd maybe a week and flipped. I usually run new beans au natural the first go around.I top(usually too early to take a decent clone), prune and heavily defoiliate in veg and up until about 3 weeks of flower.I'm gonna step outside my box and run them as if I know them.:bigjoint:
The 3rd goofy grape has yet to show.Any day now.

On another note,I have a nice clone of Sweet Dixie fresh out of the cloner and into a regular square quart pot. She has 5 maybe 6 nodes that haven't started alternating yet. I've half assed "mainlined" a few plants over the years.Maybe 3 plants since I've read the term popularized for a specific type of plant manipulation or LST.I say half assed because I usually do it from clones that are already mature and have alternating nodes so they don't come out as symmetrcial as nebula's or nugbucket's. Yet,it works for what I mainly use it for,an even canopy. With the Sweet Dixie clone as well as the Goofy Grapes' subsequent clones I am going to attempt a couple I guess "true" mainline tech on them.

Smh...wrote all that out to say I've found I can still mainline a clone if I take the clone and root it before nodes start alternating as opposed to supercropping branches to slow them down to even them out like I do with my usual clones and as they do in those tutorials.

**Ever go back and read your post before hitting "post reply" and just want to delete the whole f$@!ing thing? Like....."dude wtf are you thinking,wtf is your point!?"....
Fuck it :arrow:
I do that a bunch.....
Why am I trying to think about..

Ima try the microphone,see if I can talk it out..
 

THT

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What is this I hear about planting seeds on the blood moon? I'm going to try and pop a few to test it out.
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These seeds came from one of my first outdoor pollinations back in 2003, I held onto them for a very long time, they sat in poor conditions in storage for a long time and havent been able to sprout one in the past 8 years (only tried a few times over the years really), here's to hoping this blood moon will resurrect the dead!
 
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