BigHornBuds
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Pine Berry Kush , cut at 56dayswhat is it?
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Mindscape @ almost 10 weeks
Chuckers paradise......
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kona gold
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Sometimes that can actually delay seed finishing. Depends on the strain.
If they are getting good light wouldn't ever do that.
But if they are not , then that has to be done.
Olive Drab Green
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I plan to hit this Acapulco Gold with Shoreline Bx3 pollen.
BigHornBuds
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Hey Chuckers , looking for a little help in early male selection
What are some ways you will cull a male early?
I don’t like the stream rub test, because I feel lots of smells come out durning flower , and my nose is fucked .
I’m smelling mint off my Black afgani males ???
The females that I feel are the best out of the pack in veg always turn out less potent flowers , but yeild better .
I would like to grow them all, but a few need the axe ASAP so I can pop more .
I’ve done the branch bend & brake test , all pass
To early to put them outside.
What are some ways you will cull a male early?
I don’t like the stream rub test, because I feel lots of smells come out durning flower , and my nose is fucked .
I’m smelling mint off my Black afgani males ???
The females that I feel are the best out of the pack in veg always turn out less potent flowers , but yeild better .
I would like to grow them all, but a few need the axe ASAP so I can pop more .
I’ve done the branch bend & brake test , all pass
To early to put them outside.
CannaBruh
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The very first true set of leaves usually tell me something, I'm looking for anything grass, celery, hay, any boring wild field smells... these are on the short list to be axed.
(should be noted special somethings can even come from these so not to be written in stone to axe, this is only what I use to help me decide)
Often the desirable ones have some stank to them even this early, but not always, sour, bad breath, lemon, cleaner, mothball, garlic, skunk, fruit, anything that perks my nose up will be on a short list of ones to watch and I'm not making final decisions on which to keep but it helps weed out the less desirable.
Even then this is not really a great test (maybe the hay ones have dank recessive that they pass on..)
Still, more often than not when they smell like celery early on like that they aren't doing better than the ones that were reeking onions or sours on those first true leaves.
Another interesting trait is to watch that first set of leaves, the undersides, for purple splotching, some strains have a tell where the new growth and or in addition to the undersides (sometimes even the cotyledon) will have some obvious purpling inherent. These I keep an eye on too. No guarantee these are any good, but it's a good sign they'll be and might even pass some of that purple onto further generations.
Vigor and leaf:stamen are highly sought characteristics. I don't want to pass on leafy traits, I want high flower:leaf ratio.
Looking for the fast growers with nice nodal spacing and with minimal leafiness during flower.
After that it's a crap shoot, and even then I don't always choose the ones that the standard operating procedure might call for.
At the end of the day, the progeny will tell if you made a decent decision, and if you're already starting from some choice gear/males, it's been more often than not to select something nice than something weak.
(should be noted special somethings can even come from these so not to be written in stone to axe, this is only what I use to help me decide)
Often the desirable ones have some stank to them even this early, but not always, sour, bad breath, lemon, cleaner, mothball, garlic, skunk, fruit, anything that perks my nose up will be on a short list of ones to watch and I'm not making final decisions on which to keep but it helps weed out the less desirable.
Even then this is not really a great test (maybe the hay ones have dank recessive that they pass on..)
Still, more often than not when they smell like celery early on like that they aren't doing better than the ones that were reeking onions or sours on those first true leaves.
Another interesting trait is to watch that first set of leaves, the undersides, for purple splotching, some strains have a tell where the new growth and or in addition to the undersides (sometimes even the cotyledon) will have some obvious purpling inherent. These I keep an eye on too. No guarantee these are any good, but it's a good sign they'll be and might even pass some of that purple onto further generations.
Vigor and leaf:stamen are highly sought characteristics. I don't want to pass on leafy traits, I want high flower:leaf ratio.
Looking for the fast growers with nice nodal spacing and with minimal leafiness during flower.
After that it's a crap shoot, and even then I don't always choose the ones that the standard operating procedure might call for.
At the end of the day, the progeny will tell if you made a decent decision, and if you're already starting from some choice gear/males, it's been more often than not to select something nice than something weak.
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BigHornBuds
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Thanks for the info.
I have to start being pickier in my selection, I’m going to start getting my wife to smell all plants as they go.
Anyone ever smell mint off of a plant ?
That’s a 1st for me
CannaBruh
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See how her smells compare to yours, I find it fun how people smell other smells more prominent whereas someone else picks up on something else, for example say you smell mint maybe your wife picks up on some lavender or something and only after her mentioning are you able to find those smells within, i find this sometimes having smell parties getting other's subjective descriptions can make me aware of things I wasn't paying attention to.
Mint I've seen in dark helmet, sinmint cookies, the ortega cut, and few others had "minty" to their smells. Not a bad terp to find especially amidst all the mint cookie hype.
There's no rules with selection it's a lot like making music, pick what strikes your fancy and run with it, pray it makes for dank babies.
I'm going to try and make a really potent outdoor strain . I'm going to cross biker kush v2.0 with ghost train haze 1. I'll be spraying cs on both top half's of the females. Which strain would you let be the pollen donor. Also want to make a biker kush v2.0 cross Malawi to shorten the flowering time.
kona gold
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Go with your gut bro.
What you like and what you feel.
Then it will truly be an extension of yourself.
Sour Wreck
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well said.
too larry
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Airplanes decided my (Blue Shiva X Blue Shark) X ({Powernap X Sinmint Cookies} X Ass Cheese) cross. I had chopped the male BSXBS and was packing out the tops to cross with an Ass Cheese in another patch. But it was a Sunday and every damn body and his brother was out flying that afternoon. I always hide until a plane is past, and I was spending more time hiding than walking. The BSXBS was in Peach Patch South, and I was heading north toward the Ass Cheese. After the 2nd or 3rd time I had hid under bushes too small to be hiding under, I decided to go ahead and dust the PC X AC that was closer.
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BigHornBuds
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Dead males !
too larry
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Just to clarify, I had already chosen the male. The planes just decided which female I used him on the day he got the chop. I did get around to dusting the Ass Cheese with the same pollen later on.
genuity
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Nice lil honeystomper x Mimosa, them going to be some bushes..
BigHornBuds
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Cush Berry Daze
greenjambo
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What would happen if you pollinated pre-flowers on a vegging plant ? Doess it take ? Is that even possible, or viable ?
So out the 4 i re-potted and put into 12/12 tent ( 2x Honeystomper #2, 2 Dessert Breath x Mimosa ) only 1 seems to be male. One of the D.B X Mimosa, i swapped it out for another but since then ive been looking at one of the few left in Veg. Cab. Its a DB x M also but has that rubbery/Plastic looking leaves, and can already see it will be colourfull, im going to just re-pot the other 3 and get them all going. My clones are lagging behind so ive got the space.
Having the grow back has really brightened me up
greenjambo
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Very true. The first leaves on my old Dog Kush had that same smell that i now see with kush dom plants, this was about 9 Yrs ago and before i had grew much of anything worth remembering. Since then i always give those first leave a little rub n sniff. Ive got one atm that had the smell and purple on first leaves from very early on.
This one has 0 % of the Pineapple that was crossed with the male lvrk x zkittles. It did end up female and ive got it in around week 2. I'll get a couple snaps soon as lights on.