Christ myth theory

The303Yeti

The303Yeti

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Dalek Supreme said:
He stopped getting indoctrinated by garbage at age 9. Good for him.

The Bible does not mention Dinosaurs, but common animals at the time.

The Bible does not say 6,000 years old, but it's chronology can be extrapolated as such.
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Lol I won't waste my time on you but you might actually read something instead of spitting other people's bs.
 
GroDank101

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Dalek Supreme said:
First off are you saying the entire book of Revelation is from the 17th century, or the number of the beast verse is an interpolation from the 17th century?
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I'm saying that the writings have been subject to errors of interpretation and translation for over 1600 years of humans passing down the Bible. Yes, the bible you will read today, wasn't finished until the King James Version came to be in 1611.
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Dalek Supreme

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The303Yeti said:
Lol I won't waste my time on you but you might actually read something instead of spitting other people's bs.
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"Where Did a Young-earth Worldview Come From?

Simply put, it came from the Bible. Of course, the Bible doesn’t say explicitly anywhere, “The earth is 6,000 years old.” Good thing it doesn’t; otherwise it would be out of date the following year. But we wouldn’t expect an all-knowing God to make that kind of a mistake.

God gave us something better. In essence, He gave us a “birth certificate.” For example, using a personal birth certificate, a person can calculate how old he is at any point. It is similar with the earth. Genesis 1 says that the earth was created on the first day of creation (Genesis 1:1–5). From there, we can begin to calculate the age of the earth.

Let’s do a rough calculation to show how this works. The age of the earth can be estimated by taking the first five days of creation (from earth’s creation to Adam), then following the genealogies from Adam to Abraham in Genesis 5 and 11, then adding in the time from Abraham to today.

Adam was created on day 6, so there were five days before him. If we add up the dates from Adam to Abraham, we get about 2,000 years, using the Masoretic Hebrew text of Genesis 5 and 11.3 Whether Christian or secular, most scholars would agree that Abraham lived about 2,000 B.C. (4,000 years ago).

So a simple calculation is:

5 days
+ ~2,000 years
+ ~4,000 years

~6,000 years"

https://answersingenesis.org/age-of-the-earth/how-old-is-the-earth/

The Bible is bullshit.

Dr. Robert M Price The Bible Geek

https://m.youtube.com/channel/UCapVgbDZcjJIzgSiZWtrnPg
 
Dalek Supreme

Dalek Supreme

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GroDank101 said:
I'm saying that the writings have been subject to errors of interpretation and translation for over 1600 years of humans passing down the Bible. Yes, the bible you will read today, wasn't finished until the King James Version came to be in 1611.
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The KJV is just a translation. I do not doubt errors, and interpolations (just read Bart Ehrman's "Forged".

As for the Book of Revelation it's from the late 1st century, and we have early Christian Apologist from the 2nd century writing about it.

http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/revelation.html

The Beast is Emperor Nero.

"What is curious is not so much that 666 can be decoded to signify Nero but that the name of the emperor is encoded in this particular number, especially since it could have been represented more readily in other ways. If "Nero" is retained in Greek, for example, the numeration would be 955 or, if "Neron," 1005; in Hebrew, then 256 or 306, respectively. It only is when the Greek letters are transliterated into Hebrew that the numeration adds up to 666 (nrwn qsr,50 + 200 + 6 + 50 + 100 + 60 + 200). Even so, this is an alternate spelling, a letter in "Neron" being transliterated (nrwn instead of nrw) but not in "Caesar" (qsr instead of qysr), although these forms do appear in both the Talmud and a contemporary Aramaic scroll from Qumran. It is intriguing, therefore, that 666 encodes the name of Nero in Hebrew when Revelation, itself, was written in Greek."

http://penelope.uchicago.edu/~grout/encyclopaedia_romana/gladiators/nero.html


Please get with actual scholarship instead of spouting sensationalism from slow thinking YouTube videos.
 

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Larry {the} Gardener

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Dalek Supreme said:
"Where Did a Young-earth Worldview Come From?

Simply put, it came from the Bible. Of course, the Bible doesn’t say explicitly anywhere, “The earth is 6,000 years old.” Good thing it doesn’t; otherwise it would be out of date the following year. But we wouldn’t expect an all-knowing God to make that kind of a mistake.

God gave us something better. In essence, He gave us a “birth certificate.” For example, using a personal birth certificate, a person can calculate how old he is at any point. It is similar with the earth. Genesis 1 says that the earth was created on the first day of creation (Genesis 1:1–5). From there, we can begin to calculate the age of the earth.

Let’s do a rough calculation to show how this works. The age of the earth can be estimated by taking the first five days of creation (from earth’s creation to Adam), then following the genealogies from Adam to Abraham in Genesis 5 and 11, then adding in the time from Abraham to today.

Adam was created on day 6, so there were five days before him. If we add up the dates from Adam to Abraham, we get about 2,000 years, using the Masoretic Hebrew text of Genesis 5 and 11.3 Whether Christian or secular, most scholars would agree that Abraham lived about 2,000 B.C. (4,000 years ago).

So a simple calculation is:

5 days
+ ~2,000 years
+ ~4,000 years

~6,000 years"

https://answersingenesis.org/age-of-the-earth/how-old-is-the-earth/

The Bible is bullshit.

Dr. Robert M Price The Bible Geek

https://m.youtube.com/channel/UCapVgbDZcjJIzgSiZWtrnPg
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GroDank101 said:
the Earth is 6k years old, and I am George Washington lol
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There is no need to worry about this one, Mr Washington. It was decided over 200 years ago. At the end of the 16th century and into the beginning of the 17th, the leading experts in the fields of science and religion were gathered together from the far reaches of the British Empire. They took everything into account, and read the Bible forwards and backwards, counting years as they ticked off. Their years of thorough and far reaching research came up with the date God created the world. It was Monday, October the 4th, 4004BC. At 0900 GMT {London Time}

We all know nothing of import has happened since then to change our minds, right?
 
Dalek Supreme

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The Gospel of Mark which is seen by most scholars as the first written Gospel (circa 70's CE) is chock full of spiritual allegory. The fleeing naked young man is just one of many that's mistaken as historical kernels of truth.

Mark 14:48-52

"48 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Are ye come out, as against a thief, with swords and with staves to take me?

49 I was daily with you in the temple teaching, and ye took me not: but the scriptures must be fulfilled.

50 And they all forsook him, and fled.

51 And there followed him a certainyoung man, having a linen cloth cast about his naked body; and theyoung manlaid hold on him:

52 And he left the linen cloth, and fled from them naked."

Now who's this young man covered with common linen cloth which easily sheds away?

Mark 16:3-8

"3 And they said among themselves, Who shall roll us away the stone from the door of the sepulchre?

4 And when they looked, they saw that the stone was rolled away: for it was very great.

5 And entering into the sepulchre, they saw ayoung mansitting on the right side, clothed in a long white garment; and they were affrighted.

6 And he saith unto them, Be not affrighted: Ye seek Jesus of Nazareth, which was crucified: he is risen; he is not here: behold the place where they laid him.

7 But go your way, tell his disciples and Peter that he goeth before you into Galilee: there shall ye see him, as he said unto you.

8 And they went out quickly, and fled from the sepulchre; for they trembled and were amazed: neither said they any thing to any man; for they were afraid."

Now who's this young man wearing an uncommonly clean, and luxurious white Robe?

Now the argument for the hypothetical "Q" makes it look like a single document. In reality the unknown authors of the canonical Gospels drew on many sources, and some we no longer have. As for the young men in Mark we can see the spiritual meaning, and it's inspiration from Paul.

1 Corinthians 15:47-53 (circa 50's CE)

"47 The first man is of the earth, earthy; the second man is the Lord from heaven.

48 As is the earthy, such are they also that are earthy: and as is the heavenly, such are they also that are heavenly.

49 And as we have borne the image of the earthy, we shall also bear the image of the heavenly.

50 Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.

51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,

52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.

53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality."

The garment of the young man fleeing Jesus represents the Earthly flesh that decays, and the empty Tomb young man's garment represents Heavenly flesh that's incorruptible.

When you have scholars looking at the Gospels as if it was history embellished instead of the parable within parables that it is? Then no wonder said scholars cannot see how useless the Gospels are for determining Jesus's historicity.
 
Dalek Supreme

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Larry {the} Gardener said:
The Dead Sea Scrolls talks about someone known as The Teacher {if my old wore out memory is working this morning} who would fit the bill pretty good.
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The dead sea scrolls were from a sect called the essenes. They write about the teacher of righteousness.

They were doing Midrashic readings of the OT. They looked at select verses for hidden meanings a la Bible code.

This is how Philo of Alexandria came up with his Logos by combining Platonic/Hellenistic ideas, and midrashic reading of the OT.

Guess what. Philo's archangel Logos has the same descriptive names for Paul's Jesus. Firstborn of God, image of God, God's agent of creation to name a few.

Jesus started as an archangel from midrashic reading of the OT that later got confused as historical.
 
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