CHLORAMINE vs CHLORINE in my tap water. HELP

HomeGrownHairy

HomeGrownHairy

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I need some help here folks.

My city uses CHLORAMINE instead of chlorine in my tap water to disenfect it. It doesnt evaporate like chlorine and is nor recommended for fish tanks so I'm thinking it's not good for my Aerogarden grow OR my Fox Farm organic nutes..

I went to the pet store and was sold some neutralizer for chlorine, & chloramine. It says "breaks down the bond of chloramine", whatever that means.

Does anyone know if this neutralizer is okay to add to my tap water to get rid of the chloramine, and if not...what can I use besides bottled water. Is there anything I can add to my water to get rid of Chloramine?
 
topfuel29

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it changes it over to salts, very bad...
I've got the same problem
I buy distilled water every week, and I'm problem free.
I use the tap water to top off my res through out the week
that's is.
Gonna have to go to plan "B" man. :bigjoint:
 
HomeGrownHairy

HomeGrownHairy

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topfuel29 said:
it changes it over to salts, very bad...
I've got the same problem
I buy distilled water every week, and I'm problem free.
I use the tap water to top off my res through out the week
that's is.
Gonna have to go to plan "B" man. :bigjoint:
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Hi - You top off with your tap water? How often do you flush then...weekly?
Hve you tried that stuff at the pet stores that are for chlorine & chloramine? I wonder if it works or not?
 
autotek500

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There are a couple of ways to get rid of chloramine in water. one is to slice an orange and add it to a gal. of water ,which is not very practical for your situation although it will remove the chloramine within 30 min. Another way is to boil the water for at least 20 min.but you still have to let it stand to get rid of the chlorine.....The third way is to filter it thru a activated carbon filter which I am sure you can make your self. this will remove them except mabe trace amounts. double filtered should be free of chlorine and chloramine altogether ....hope this info is helpful...
 
Picasso345

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I would buy distilled water for the first few weeks and then once the plants get a little stronger I think you're fine using tap water. These are hardy weeds.

ps: I think what topfuel29 was saying is that the pet store juice you have converts the chloramines into salts which aren't good for plants either. I have no idea if that's true, but I think that's what he meant.
 
HomeGrownHairy

HomeGrownHairy

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autotek500 said:
There are a couple of ways to get rid of chloramine in water. one is to slice an orange and add it to a gal. of water ,which is not very practical for your situation although it will remove the chloramine within 30 min. Another way is to boil the water for at least 20 min.but you still have to let it stand to get rid of the chlorine.....The third way is to filter it thru a activated carbon filter which I am sure you can make your self. this will remove them except mabe trace amounts. double filtered should be free of chlorine and chloramine altogether ....hope this info is helpful...
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Thanks for the info...I was hoping maybe 2 drops of something would get rid of it. Silly me & thanks for the suggestions.
 
HomeGrownHairy

HomeGrownHairy

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Picasso345 said:
I would buy distilled water for the first few weeks and then once the plants get a little stronger I think you're fine using tap water. These are hardy weeds.

ps: I think what topfuel29 was saying is that the pet store juice you have converts the chloramines into salts which aren't good for plants either. I have no idea if that's true, but I think that's what he meant.
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They are 6+ weeks old and when I went from bottled to tap 2 weeks ago, my problems started. Maybe I can try it again in another couple weeks when they are older yet....

or maybe I can just top off with tap water between flushing every other week?

Damn my water company..sick bastards
 
Eharmony420

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start saving for ro machine too. For 15o and under you can get a cheaper even a 100 portable one that will just attach to your sink. It will be worth it in the long run. I am not one to talk i still am not saving lol, buti use flora micro hardwater and although I am only getting rid of chlorine, i think, lol, I let it sit out the 24 hour and it works ok.

Flora micro hardwater is genius stuff.
 
topfuel29

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Yep,

F. Acid-Base Reactions—neutralization is the reaction between an acid & a base. It produces a salt + water but the water is not always at a pH of 7.

G. Products of Acid-Base Reactions—salts are ionic compounds produced from the left over positive ion of a base and the leftover negative ion in an acid. Some salts are soluble while others are not (& precipitate out of solution).

From:http://ch005.k12.sd.us/notes%20chemical_interactions.htm

Another good read:http://www.purewatersystems.com/ph_topic.php

Another Good One:http://www.simplyhydro.com/Advance_Nutrient_mgnt.htm
 
autotek500

autotek500

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I personally think you could go to walmart and for around $40.00 or so, get an activated carbon filter for your kitchen sink ,and solve your chemical problems . does anyone know why this would'nt work????????????
 
HomeGrownHairy

HomeGrownHairy

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topfuel29 said:
Yep,

F. Acid-Base Reactions—neutralization is the reaction between an acid & a base. It produces a salt + water but the water is not always at a pH of 7.

G. Products of Acid-Base Reactions—salts are ionic compounds produced from the left over positive ion of a base and the leftover negative ion in an acid. Some salts are soluble while others are not (& precipitate out of solution).

From:http://ch005.k12.sd.us/notes chemical_interactions.htm

Another good read:http://www.purewatersystems.com/ph_topic.php

Another Good One:http://www.simplyhydro.com/Advance_Nutrient_mgnt.htm
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Thanks! - I read all of them and saved the last article to my desktop. .good information all!
 
HomeGrownHairy

HomeGrownHairy

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autotek500 said:
I personally think you could go to walmart and for around $40.00 or so, get an activated carbon filter for your kitchen sink ,and solve your chemical problems . does anyone know why this would'nt work????????????
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Great idea. I dont see why it wouldn't work. Anybody else have comments on this please.
 
HomeGrownHairy

HomeGrownHairy

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Picasso345 said:
I would buy distilled water for the first few weeks and then once the plants get a little stronger I think you're fine using tap water. These are hardy weeds.

ps: I think what topfuel29 was saying is that the pet store juice you have converts the chloramines into salts which aren't good for plants either. I have no idea if that's true, but I think that's what he meant.
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Yeah, I thought that's what he said too.
 
HomeGrownHairy

HomeGrownHairy

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Chloramine is still a big problem for me and all of us who grow indoors. It is now used by over 20% of water districts and that will be increasing sharply. It will replace chlorine.
From what I've read even RO wont remove it. I get RO'd water locally so I know that water in the machine still has chloramine. It goes into their RO machine. this stuff kills fish & is now good for indoor plants. Since it doesn't evaporate, we have to deal with it. The very tips of my plants are brown and my lower leaves are curling...I'm about 2 weeks from harvest and my ppm is only 500 7 pH 5.8-6

A local water guy said i could use the fish store stuff but earlier in this thread a few said not to...so, what I/we do.
 
HomeGrownHairy

HomeGrownHairy

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Eharmony420 said:
start saving for ro machine too. For 15o and under you can get a cheaper even a 100 portable one that will just attach to your sink. It will be worth it in the long run. I am not one to talk i still am not saving lol, buti use flora micro hardwater and although I am only getting rid of chlorine, i think, lol, I let it sit out the 24 hour and it works ok.

Flora micro hardwater is genius stuff.
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A regular r/o charcoal filter doesnt work very well. Just make sure your water district hasnt changed over to chloramine yet. Over 20% use chloramine (some giant areas like LA & most of Calif, Philli, etc) and more are changing.
 
ital farmer

ital farmer

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From what I've read, catalytic activated carbon filters work the best for chloramine removal. http://purewaterproductsllc.com/chloraminefilter.htm is an interesting article even though it's tied to pushing their filter product. The catalytic activated carbon filters are able to break the chlorine-ammonia bond present in chloramine, but they leave the ammonia. This is a hazard to aquatic life (fish tanks, etc.) or other applications where it enters the bloodstream directly. I don't know how ammonia affects MJ, but I would assume it doesn't help. http://www.pwgazette.com/chloramines&ammonia.htm is another article that addresses the leftover ammonia problem. I'd like to hear from some folks who water with chloraminated water and how/if they deal with it.
 
1982grower

1982grower

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Go to petsmart and buy dechloraminator. It handles chlorine and chloramine? sorry spelling. It is safe for the most fragile corals in the ocean and i use it all the time for my tank. I think its safe to try and will prob work
 
1982grower

1982grower

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An active carbon filter will not work. It handles a certain kind of filtration. Go to Fluval aquarium products to find out about every kind of filtration. Chemical, biological, mechanical
 
HomeGrownHairy

HomeGrownHairy

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1982grower said:
Go to petsmart and buy dechloraminator. It handles chlorine and chloramine? sorry spelling. It is safe for the most fragile corals in the ocean and i use it all the time for my tank. I think its safe to try and will prob work
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Okay thanks. I'll check that out. You said "tank" so I assume you mean
reservoir for your plants and not your aquarium?
 
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