Chem Trails

morgentaler

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http://www.sciencemuseum.org.uk/antenna/flying/contribution/contrails_and_clouds/

edit 2, another link: http://www.airspacemag.com/flight-today/Flight_Lines.html

"They form when water vapor from the engine cools down and condenses."

Therefore, kerosene exhaust :)

edit: I just asked someone who worked with jet fuel every day to verify. The kerosene burns very cleanly, so it's mostly water vapor, but there are still some other things like paraffin in the fuel. It depends on the overall quality of the fuel itself.
 

Realclosetgreenz

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http://www.sciencemuseum.org.uk/antenna/flying/contribution/contrails_and_clouds/

edit 2, another link: http://www.airspacemag.com/flight-today/Flight_Lines.html

"They form when water vapor from the engine cools down and condenses."

Therefore, kerosene exhaust :)

edit: I just asked someone who worked with jet fuel every day to verify. The kerosene burns very cleanly, so it's mostly water vapor, but there are still some other things like paraffin in the fuel. It depends on the overall quality of the fuel itself.​
Ive grown up my whole life around planes bro including turbine engine propelled aircraft. Wich is by the way highly efficient and has very little Visible exhaust output. "Contrails" are what you are referring to and yes are the result of fuel vapor condensing, this only happens under certain atmospheric pressures and cold wheather conditions. And on the chem trail planes the "Smoke" is coming from canisters on the wings not the engines. And are you familiar with " morgellons" disease. A Newly found deposit found in the lungs of individuals who have breathed in this "smoke" .
 

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MagicBus

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http://www.sciencemuseum.org.uk/antenna/flying/contribution/contrails_and_clouds/

edit 2, another link: http://www.airspacemag.com/flight-today/Flight_Lines.html

"They form when water vapor from the engine cools down and condenses."

Therefore, kerosene exhaust :)

edit: I just asked someone who worked with jet fuel every day to verify. The kerosene burns very cleanly, so it's mostly water vapor, but there are still some other things like paraffin in the fuel. It depends on the overall quality of the fuel itself.
Right on, everyone knows when you burn any hydrocarbon fuel you will produce almost an equal amount by volume of H2O.
 

Hayduke

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Yes Con(densation) trails is from water vapor...when you see this, the trail dissipates, and does not return.

Chem trails is another story.

Watch and see if the trail in the early morning isn't visible for as far as the horizon. It will fade a little as it widens and if there is enough moisture in the air, a cloud will form.

Rather than reduce the use of fossil fuels and reduce climate change, lets just monkey with it some more.

This at the most benign, is "cloud seeding". Silver nitrate is extremely hydrophylic and if moisture is in the atmosphere, a cloud will form...shading the sun, cooling the Earth.

The state of Texas is openly doing this and charging counties something like 12 cents per square mile or acre?

Anyway some believe that it is more sinister and the pseudo-secret cloud seeding operation is a cover up for something much worse.

I have seen the clouds form from trails that do not dissipate over the inland empire in socal....near March air base.

In mid August I was in NE California looking at land. It was 112 degrees in Redding, and 102 where I was East of there at 5000 feet. (edit:this is unusually hot, and night time lows are in the 40's at elevation, and my daughter and I camped one night) I woke up feezing my ass off and got out of the tent and made a fire (later found out was illegal, though left fire cold!) I was up around sunrise and watched as planes flew back and forth from the direction of Travis Air base and towards the lightly populated areas of Eastern Oregon, Northern Idaho and N. Western Montana???

The air was EXTREMELY dry and hot. The trails widened into strips of very thin clouds that stayed all day. The patterns are not checker board, but somewhat random criss-cross.

The socal ones produced clouds, verga and light rain...and 79 degree days in the high-desert in the first week of August, when it should be 105!

Incidentally, though there may be a good reason, like it's usage in electronics, but silver has become quite rare recently....

Make no mistake, vapor trails dissipate even in the humid mid-western air of my youth, but especially in the arid high pressure dominated West!

I try not to think about this stuff cuz it freaks me out.

:leaf::peace::leaf:
 

imrickjames

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chemtrails and contrails are two different things. What you have in that picture is clearly chemtrails. Chemtrails stay in the sky for hours. The govt. has even admitted spraying shit over us. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aL35Mu_uHho NBC news investigated it http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIe0ZVF1rPc
Fox news investigated into it http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-hm54CP4xA&feature=related

In this news investigation the guy captures the shit in a jar and they test it and it turned out to be barium which would be used as "sunscreen" to dim the suns rays http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rFpF-c8Jgx0&feature=related
 

CrackerJax

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How can it be cloud seeding? It's not as if the plane is adding moisture....it's just cutting the slightest slice in the sky as the plane travels. The available moisture is simply condensed..... then is dissipates. If it doesn't dissipate, it simply means that conditions were already favorable for cloud formation.

it's just water.
 

morgentaler

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I don't know about these "chem trails" you're differentiating from contrails, but contrails can stay in the sky for hours.
We also have other formations of moisture that stay in the sky for hours at a time.
They're called clouds. They're extremely rare, and sometimes try to disguise themselves as a whale made of cotton, or the friendly faces of Jesus and Saddam Hussein, but trust me...
CLOUDS ARE REAL, AND THEY ARE WATCHING YOU.
 

Hayduke

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How can it be cloud seeding? It's not as if the plane is adding moisture....it's just cutting the slightest slice in the sky as the plane travels. The available moisture is simply condensed..... then is dissipates. If it doesn't dissipate, it simply means that conditions were already favorable for cloud formation.

it's just water.
Without looking very far...(first hit)http://www.license.state.tx.us/weather/summary.htm


Cloud seeding is not new. I think it has been done since the 50's at the research level.

It is accomplished by spraying an agent that is hydrophylic (water-loving) and causes moisture that is already present in the atmosphere to condense.

If done in relatively dry air, you get very light clouds. If done over a thunder head...you get the cloud to drop it's rain rather than carry it off until it hits a mountain range.

:leaf::peace::leaf:
 

CrackerJax

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Okay, so how much is going on? And who is doing it, because Cracker would be AGAINST trying to alter the weather in any meaningful way. It's like every now and again i pick up chatter about science working on diverting or minimizing hurricanes. I think this could be a disaster. It's best not to fool with mother Nature. i could see doing it to break a severe drought if food crops were on the line, but that's about it. It would have to be an emergency measure under strict control by Al Gore.
 

Realclosetgreenz

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Hmmm.. Hurricane Katrina, planned cloud seeded disaster experiment. Nobody comes to help people when there drowning to death in our country but at the same time we're invaded Irag. FEMA a crock of shit plot against humanity they openly admit their a "secret" Government program .
 

Hayduke

Well-Known Member
How can it be cloud seeding? It's not as if the plane is adding moisture....it's just cutting the slightest slice in the sky as the plane travels. The available moisture is simply condensed..... then is dissipates. If it doesn't dissipate, it simply means that conditions were already favorable for cloud formation.

it's just water.
If the conditions were favorable for cloud formation...it would be cloudy:mrgreen:

Okay, so how much is going on? And who is doing it, because Cracker would be AGAINST trying to alter the weather in any meaningful way. It's like every now and again i pick up chatter about science working on diverting or minimizing hurricanes. I think this could be a disaster. It's best not to fool with mother Nature. i could see doing it to break a severe drought if food crops were on the line, but that's about it. It would have to be an emergency measure under strict control by Al Gore.
What about reducing Western wild fires...or to protect the Dept of Ag's timber stands? As the climate shifts the rooted trees cannot adapt (or shift north) fast enough, their health is lesser and susceptibility to the bark beetle is increasing. Socal forests have been decimated, and the Northern forests are seeing pressure from the heat, the drought, and the beetle.

And I was thinking maybe Haliburton would be a better program manager...stimulate the economy...after all the gov mismanages everything...and Al is just a big fibber flying around in his pollution plane as a Chinese agent...I am So Super Cereal!!!!!

Or maybe the Dept of Defense:cry:

:leaf::peace::leaf:
 

MagicBus

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http://www.sciencemuseum.org.uk/antenna/flying/contribution/contrails_and_clouds/

edit 2, another link: http://www.airspacemag.com/flight-today/Flight_Lines.html

"They form when water vapor from the engine cools down and condenses."

Therefore, kerosene exhaust :)

edit: I just asked someone who worked with jet fuel every day to verify. The kerosene burns very cleanly, so it's mostly water vapor, but there are still some other things like paraffin in the fuel. It depends on the overall quality of the fuel itself.
That's right.
The combustion process of any hydrocarbon fuel will produce, almost, the same amount of H2O as fuel burned by volume. Kerosene is a hydrocarbon fuel so burning a gallon of kerosene will produce just about a gallon of water/water vapor.
 

CrackerJax

New Member
If the conditions were favorable for cloud formation...it would be cloudy:mrgreen:
Or it is about to be cloudy...:mrgreen: there is always a cusp my friend.



What about reducing Western wild fires...or to protect the Dept of Ag's timber stands? As the climate shifts the rooted trees cannot adapt (or shift north) fast enough, their health is lesser and susceptibility to the bark beetle is increasing. Socal forests have been decimated, and the Northern forests are seeing pressure from the heat, the drought, and the beetle.

And I was thinking maybe Haliburton would be a better program manager...stimulate the economy...after all the gov mismanages everything...and Al is just a big fibber flying around in his pollution plane as a Chinese agent...I am So Super Cereal!!!!!

Or maybe the Dept of Defense:cry:

:leaf::peace::leaf:
NO!!!! ONLY FOOD!!! If you don't draw a hard line.... it will be crossed.
 
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