Centrum for Plants

polyarcturus

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soluble is soluble. standard human vitamin pills dissolved in water are great for plants. been doing it for years now to correct any micro deficiency ion flower vs. superthrive because it contains NAA hormone which can be detrimental to flowering. in veg i use superthrive. but i have seen nothing but good things from your standard vitamin pill, i use it sparsely tho, like a half pill per 4 gal water.
 

Figong

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soluble is soluble. standard human vitamin pills dissolved in water are great for plants. been doing it for years now to correct any micro deficiency ion flower vs. superthrive because it contains NAA hormone which can be detrimental to flowering. in veg i use superthrive. but i have seen nothing but good things from your standard vitamin pill, i use it sparsely tho, like a half pill per 4 gal water.
I could see it used sparingly.. not as an all the time thing, and that'd require close watch of the leaves on a 6 hour timer for def/tox - don't you agree?
 

polyarcturus

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I could see it used sparingly.. not as an all the time thing, and that'd require close watch of the leaves on a 6 hour timer for def/tox - don't you agree?
never had any problems at all. ive even used as part of a once a week feeding schedule when i used composted soil. but, i mean, if you do the math on the PPM from half a pill regardless the purity i dont think its something to worry about... i think about that on comparison to scoops of urea nitrate we dump in to feed our tomatoes
 

Figong

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never had any problems at all. ive even used as part of a once a week feeding schedule when i used composted soil. but, i mean, if you do the math on the PPM from half a pill regardless the purity i dont think its something to worry about... i think about that on comparison to scoops of urea nitrate we dump in to feed our tomatoes
You're wanting me to do math at 4am? I'll take your word on it until I get time tomorrow and can throw numbers around to see what a 'semi-dangerous' level is.. hahaha - good point with the urea nitrate too bro :D
 

billy4479

Moderator
Well just thought id throw this out here Ive been using the centrum chewable tablets for my plants for years .. 1 pill per 20 gallons .
 

Bud Brewer

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I put a b complex a glucosamine chondroitin msm pill 3 salmon oil pills half a tsp aquarium sea salt a tbs cider vinegar and a tbs molasses in my homemade concentrate organic nutes I make up in a gallon then use 1-4 cups of that to a feed gallon.
 

redcaes

Member
blah blah blah .....alot of naysayers are saying it's bad without actually trying it. the few who have say it works. I tried it out of curiosity since i read the ingredients in a bottle of centrum and found that it had about 80% of the nutes i spent a 1g on in the hydro store. my buddy dropped off a 16" plant in veg and I put her in my garden on dec 1st, she did nothing for 2 weeks in the soil pot i got her in and and regular water feedings, so sad it looked like charlie brown's christmas tree..... i decided to add a crushed up centrum 1 aday to her bi-weekly feedings,and i shit you not by xmas she was 3ft high and rising...by mid january 5ft, feb 1st 7ft, hitting the ceiling and curling over to continue..... i have been growing that strain and my other plants to there previous max potential of 3ft in the same span???? with 1000$ of nutes.
centrum f$#@^!n works! in veg anyways jury is still out on flowering will get back to you guys on that in a few weeks!

RIU!
 

Beachside

Member
If you spent 1000 dollars on nutrients I have a bridge to sell you!

Agriculture was mans first technology. Research in this field has been ongoing for upwards of 7000 years. If giving your plants a multivitamin helped there may be a different conclusion then the one your jumping to!
 

redcaes

Member
If you spent 1000 dollars on nutrients I have a bridge to sell you!

where we're you with the bridge offer and your 2 cents before I spent the cash, lol Canna's not cheap 4L costs 100$, the there's the grozyne, and the fulvex, humex, boosters and sugar daddy and magical that's what everyone kept telling me to do. so done is done, but I'm always open to trial and error. I've also smoked some of the sweetest bud in my life grown outdoors in the backyard with straight german shepherd dog poop! so as yeah I've taken that 7000 + (millions if you ask me) of horticultural research and modified it to my environment.
so far, for those that wanna know I've found this out you can make the same if not better with bat shit and dog shit compared to the high priced nutes you get in the hydro shop, it's up to you.
But for me indoor im now using ph'd water and centrum for vegging in choir(bulk centrum at costco 30$) for flowering mollasses and bat guano guano tea and lil epsom salts once in a while top it of with some magical at 4L/100$ about 150$ which is reasonable for a personal grow. if the centrum does well on the flowering test, I'm sold for 30$ start to finish!
Agriculture was mans first technology. Research in this field has been ongoing for upwards of 7000 years. If giving your plants a multivitamin helped there may be a different conclusion then the one your jumping to!
"proofs in the pudding! only time will tell.
 

luckybleu

Well-Known Member
++++ soil food web 101++++
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Plants don’t need you to add sugar to their soil; they make their own. Through the process of photosynthesis, which is powered in nature by energy from the sun, plants turn water and carbon dioxide into sugars. Plants use their self-made sugars as a fuel for growth and reproduction.

Sugar you add to the soil will instead feed soil microorganisms, such as bacteria and fungi. These naturally occurring microbes are nature’s recyclers; they help to nourish plants by breaking down the bits of organic debris in soil into their nutrient components—including the potassium, magnesium, nitrogen, and other elements that are essential for plant life. In this sense, sugar could benefit the plants in your garden by boosting the microbial population, thereby speeding up the rate at which nutrients become available.

But plants already have a process for encouraging microbial life. Soil scientists have discovered that plant roots exude sugars—sugars produced by photosynthesis—as a way of developing mutually beneficial relationships with microbes. By controlling the types and amounts of sugars they release, plants can select which kinds of microorganisms will colonize the soil around their roots. Not coincidentally, plants choose to feed the microbes that will provide them with the nutrients they need most. Compared to this sophisticated à la carte system, a sprinkle of processed sugar from your pantry is just junk food for bacteria.

By the way, there’s another reason some gardeners haul the sugar canister out to the garden. Sugar added to the planting holes of vegetable transplants is said to discourage root knot nematodes, a destructive soil-dwelling parasite that plagues many Southern gardens. —Doug Hall

((Plants produce glucose through photosynthesis. Sugar is a form of glucose.

Adding sugar water to a plant does, in the short term offer small benefits as the plant is able to absorb small amount of glucose instead of using photosynthesis to produce it.

Long term use of sugar water on plants will result in the death of the plant! To much sugar in the soil solution prevents or hampers osmosis, resulting in ineffective water and nutrient uptake by the plant. This results in discolouration, stunting, wilting and eventually death.))

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this is for the for pro- sugar users--- "
Minute amounts of can be absorbed." by the roots..

Here is a cool thread which debates the use of "sugar water" for plant roots..

http://www.treeworld.info/f29/sugar-water-trees-good-bad-soil-561.html

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hydro growers also state that sugars are absorbed in higher amounts because of the given environment~

There are also some sugars that are more important to your plants than others. xylose and arabinose are two of those sugars. Both, arabinose and xylose, are sugars naturally produced by plants. They are both also monosaccharides which means they are simple sugars therefore they are used more easily by the plant.

Glucose should be the main ingredient of the product since it is the main product of photosynthesis. Glucose is a monosaccharide which is used for energy and for starting cellular respiration in the plant. The name glucose comes from the Greek word “glykys,” which means sweet, plus the suffix “ose,” which denotes that it is a carbohydrate. Glucose is critical in the production of proteins and in lipid metabolism. Glucose is also used as a precursor for the synthesis of several important substances such as starch and cellulose. Starch is a way in which plants store energy and cellulose makes up most of the structural parts of plants.

Fructose is a monosaccharide and is a main component of most tree fruit, berries, and melons. It is the sweetest naturally occurring sugar and is twice as sweet as the disaccharide sucrose which consists of glucose and fructose bonded together.

Also the disaccharide maltose is an important sugar since it can be broken down by enzymes into 2 glucose molecules.

These are all sugars that occur and are produced naturally by plants. By adding a supplement containing these simple and complex sugars along with a well balanced nutrient, a plant will increase the levels of sugars in the leaves and throughout the plant.
So whats your final take on the benifits of adding molasses other than feeding microbes in the soil. thanks
 

Beachside

Member
Hay cannawizard, do you flush your plants? I know molasses has a decent bit of nutrient in it. If it is a choice between just water and molasses then the plant would surely mature better with the molasses.
 

cannawizard

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Hay cannawizard, do you flush your plants? I know molasses has a decent bit of nutrient in it. If it is a choice between just water and molasses then the plant would surely mature better with the molasses.
No, I do not flush my plants, I've grown with hydro setups -- soil -- outdoors, and the only time I noticed a difference with the finish product was (cured or not cured).. BUT I'm not here to debate the whole "flushing" process, each to his own :)

Yup, I do run sugar feeds the last 2 weeks of bloom~
 

polyarcturus

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No, I do not flush my plants, I've grown with hydro setups -- soil -- outdoors, and the only time I noticed a difference with the finish product was (cured or not cured).. BUT I'm not here to debate the whole "flushing" process, each to his own :)

Yup, I do run sugar feeds the last 2 weeks of bloom~
ive found the biggest difference is letting the plant ripen before harvest. too many newbs including myself when i started harvest way to earl than go about asking why our shit taste like hay, no its not because of the lack of flush lol.

i run some sugars too along with several other organic additiions. i look at organics, sugars, fulvic/humic acids all that stuff like this, "variety is the spice of life"

what that means is the more variety of nutrition, the more flavor and possible frost and an improvement in the overall health of the plant/s.
 

Alexander Supertramp

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Hay cannawizard, do you flush your plants? I know molasses has a decent bit of nutrient in it. If it is a choice between just water and molasses then the plant would surely mature better with the molasses.
The label shows its nutrition content. But the plant cannot consume the label. What I am saying is molasses has very little nutritional value to offer the plants, some trace elements at best. Use it for brewing a compost tea or the like to kick start things. Keep drenching it into your medium and your just asking for problems.
 
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