CBD: The Truth Be Told

does it mean cannabis with high CBD would make more effective tincture for pain? If I was to grow cannatonic and use the buds to make tincture, the tincture wouldnt get me high?

Endur0xX said:

does it mean cannabis with high CBD would make more effective tincture for pain? If I was to grow cannatonic and use the buds to make tincture, the tincture wouldnt get me high?

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It depends on which pheno you get. Even with the high CBD pheno there is still a high but its much different than any typical THC high you've ever felt.

Here is an example of 17 Cannatonic plants grown from seed and then tested. This should give you an idea of what you can expect.

http://www.projectcbd.org/StrainNotes/Cannatonic/Cannatonic.html

Huel Perkins said:

Here is an example of 17 Cannatonic plants grown from seed and then tested. This should give you an idea of what you can expect.

http://www.projectcbd.org/StrainNotes/Cannatonic/Cannatonic.html

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Yo, is this variability because of individual phenos or can some of it be attributed to differences in how individual plants are treated within the grow?

Also, remedial lab report question, what is the difference between the first set of columns and the second set? Seems like there is less thc listed in the max column than the sum of the thcs in the individual columns?

Does CBDA turn into CBD when "activated" by heat?

Also seems like there is a relationship between CBN and CBD's, right? Just about every time there is even minor CBN present, the CBD's drop way down? Does that suggest harvesting earlier to capture more CBD's?

Rapunzel said:

Yo, is this variability because of individual phenos or can some of it be attributed to differences in how individual plants are treated within the grow?

Also, remedial lab report question, what is the difference between the first set of columns and the second set? Seems like there is less thc listed in the max column than the sum of the thcs in the individual columns?

Does CBDA turn into CBD when "activated" by heat?

Also seems like there is a relationship between CBN and CBD's, right? Just about every time there is even minor CBN present, the CBD's drop way down? Does that suggest harvesting earlier to capture more CBD's?

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The variability is due to pheno types and genetics, not grow conditions.

The difference between the two columns is that one is Max THC and CBD, and the other is actual THCA and CBDA. The Max THC and CBD are calculations of the amount of THCA and CBDA that will be converted upon decarboxylation. Raw buds contain little to no THC or CBD, instead they are in their acidic forms known as THCA and CBDA.

There is no relationship between CBD and CBN, but there is a direct relationship between THC and CBN. CBN is the product of degradation of THC.

I hope that makes sense!

anywhere you can pick up high CBD clones in California ?

Huel Perkins said:

There is no relationship between CBD and CBN, but there is a direct relationship between THC and CBN. CBN is the product of degradation of THC.

I hope that makes sense!

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It does! I'm going to start looking at more of these test reports, this report does seem to suggest some type of relationship between cbd and cbn. Not suggesting that cbd is some type of precursor to cbn, but that there is some type of negative correlation between cbd and cbn. Only 1 of these 17 plants had any appreciable cbd in the presence of any cbn. And that particular plant seems to be an outlier with the highest percentage of cbd of any of the plants tested.

I think it is pretty hard to say that each plant is grown identically. Could be grown as identically as possible, but god knows there are many variables at play in plant growth, both indoors and out. Def not discounting phenotypes, most likely the largest determining factor in a plants development, but still.

I believe all of those 17 plants were grown together, so they were pretty much grown in the same environment.

With that said, results will always vary due to the fact you're only testing a small amount of plant material per plant. But while those results will vary, its only going to cause a difference in peak numbers, the cannabinoid profile and ratios should remain consistent with each pheno.

CC Dobbs said:

In California we have a strain called ACDC that was germinated and tested by Dr. William Courtney ( cannabisinternational.org ) It has tested at 22%CBD/1%THC. It was originally called Cannatonic. I'm just finishing up an outdoor grow and am looking forward to trying it. If anyone is passing through Sonoma County and wants a clone let me know.

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Hi, CC Dobbs, I'm new to this site and it's difficult to figure out how to contact people.
I am interested in your offer for an ACDC clone. I met with Dr. Courtney last friday and he said this variety would be best for my condition.
I am close by Sonoma and can pick up at your earilest convenience. Thanks so much. Can't wait to hear from you.

Sincerely,
oodlenoodleCC

squarepush3r said:

anywhere you can pick up high CBD clones in California ?

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Yes there is.

I bought a Harlequin clone from a local dispensary last yr and flowered her, but never using a CBD strain b4 I didnt know what to look for in her to see if her pheno was truly high in CBD. I didnt get any headache or back pain relief from her though, and have since dumped that strain.

does anyone know when decarboxylation of CBDA to CBD happens and what specific temperature if heat is the only way to convert?

wow what a great and informative post on CBD. I was just wondering today if it even mattered since it seems the best plants are just the right phenotype w/ a high level of THC for potency. It seems to me there are only a handful of strains that can pack a punch. But I know you mainly deal with concentrates and this is mostly related to that. From a flower perspective I've never paid attention to CBD at all I just figure it's not there if THC is high yet unbalanced.