Cashless Society

mooray

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I want to be with you on that, because musk is like trump's little add nephew and having random idiots in the world pretending to be "beta testers" driving autonomously is incredibly stupid and dangerous, but what is the connection between privacy concerns and driving autonomously?
 

PJ Diaz

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I want to be with you on that, because musk is like trump's little add nephew and having random idiots in the world pretending to be "beta testers" driving autonomously is incredibly stupid and dangerous, but what is the connection between privacy concerns and driving autonomously?
Well for one thing it will track you wherever you go. I realize that our cell phones already do that, but we do have the option to turn them off. Also these AI cars will have a ton of cameras on them, including on the inside of the vehicle. You will be monitored everywhere you drive, and even once parked. No more rolling up to the local overlook to smoke a doobie in the car.
 

mooray

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I see, so not as much about autonomous itself, but more autonomous that you own? Because I imagine the Uber/Lyft autonomous transport will be significant and then the gov't would need full access to these companies that they're not likely to get. Also, you probably don't have to worry about the doobie thing, unless there's scientific equipment in the car which can identify the product. Keep in mind how this insane level of data collection works, which is, there's so much data that it's impossible to just look at all of it from A to Z, so it starts with a problem and then they need to sift through mountains of info. Gov't ineptitude works in our favor the vast majority of the time.
 

DoubleAtotheRON

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... but even in 2018-19, we just didn't see cash transactions like we saw in the 90's or early 2000's... Sometimes farmers would come in with bags of cash from selling watermelons or cantelopes. But as soon as they found out that $10,000 was the limit before we had to fill out a 8300 form, they'd pay $9500 in cash, and stroke a check for the rest.
I do carry some cash, but it is hella convenient to use tap to pay. I hate carrying change around in my pocket for some reason.
 

PJ Diaz

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I see, so not as much about autonomous itself, but more autonomous that you own? Because I imagine the Uber/Lyft autonomous transport will be significant and then the gov't would need full access to these companies that they're not likely to get. Also, you probably don't have to worry about the doobie thing, unless there's scientific equipment in the car which can identify the product. Keep in mind how this insane level of data collection works, which is, there's so much data that it's impossible to just look at all of it from A to Z, so it starts with a problem and then they need to sift through mountains of info. Gov't ineptitude works in our favor the vast majority of the time.
Well just be careful what you do in your garage while your car is parked. Or around other parked cars for that matter. Always watching.

 

mooray

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I'm boring. They can have it.

But occasionally, when I'm talking to my old coworker pal, with whom we shared a shitty boss, I do like to say, "remember when (our boss' name) used to say that he wanted to (something bad) the president??". So far the old boss hasn't disappeared to Guantanamo....yet.
 

HGCC

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We actually got a letter last year from our Credit Union stating that due to circumstances "beyond thier control"... that all accounts with over a $600 balance would be monitored.... by who?...they're watching you no doubt.
That's pretty suspicious and weird.

Edit: that letter looks/seems weirder? It reads like some sort of propaganda. It isnt, but come across as such. Guess there was a proposal that was backed off. Seemed dumb to me in my 3 minute google.
 
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mooray

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One also has to read the letter. It's clear that it's not something that's actually in place, it's something rolling around on congress floor. "Considering" and "proposal" are your clues. You also don't know what the "many activities" are. Maybe it's purchases from known fentanyl factories in china, in which case, great, catch that shit. What that letter is really saying is, "we are writing a thing to get you spun up so that you contact your legislators and put a stop to this thing that will reduce our profits".
 

DoubleAtotheRON

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That's pretty suspicious and weird.

Edit: that letter looks/seems weirder? It reads like some sort of propaganda. It isnt, but come across as such. Guess there was a proposal that was backed off. Seemed dumb to me in my 3 minute google.
I suppose so, I haven't heard much more about it. But I did go down there and talk to them. Every member got this notice.


One also has to read the letter. It's clear that it's not something that's actually in place, it's something rolling around on congress floor. "Considering" and "proposal" are your clues. You also don't know what the "many activities" are. Maybe it's purchases from known fentanyl factories in china, in which case, great, catch that shit. What that letter is really saying is, "we are writing a thing to get you spun up so that you contact your legislators and put a stop to this thing that will reduce our profits".
Possible.... regardless, it's quite the overreach.
 
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DoubleAtotheRON

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I spent over $6k on a bike last year. I asked them if I could get a better deal with cash, and they said nope. I used my card and made them eat the 3%.
We always tried to convert cash buyers (even tho it might be a check) so we could have a chance to make some reserve on the note, and try to sell them back end products like Extended Warranties, GAP Protection, Tire and Wheel Protection, Credit Life, etc. We didn't like cash buyers.
 

PJ Diaz

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We always tried to convert cash buyers (even tho it might be a check) so we could have a chance to make some reserve on the note, and try to sell them back end products like Extended Warranties, GAP Protection, Tire and Wheel Protection, Credit Life, etc. We didn't like cash buyers.
I know a lot of dealerships like to sell credit and get the customer making payments, because they get some kickback.
 
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