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MixedMelodyMindBender

MixedMelodyMindBender

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purklize said:
The Romans never ruled the world. They only controlled Western Europe and the Mediterranean. The brief term as ruler of the world for the US is because of capitalism/industrialization, powers rise and fall much faster now.

Russia continues to control more land than the Romans did at the peak of their power and has ruled over a far greater population.
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Are u kidding me AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Fuck man, Go to google and get u some history for sure! The ROMANS NEVER RULED THE WORLD??????? AHAHAHAHA THATS just PATHETIC!

Then u go on to say they had a "brief" rule....describe "brief" which totally contradicts "The romans never ruled the world".....


You should learn to know what your talking about, before yoo talk about it! Here is some .50 cent wiki history for ya man : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_Empire

I guess after all that Alexander the Great and Julius Caesar where just no body's :)

The roman empire at its greatest covered almost double the entire modern day land mass of Russia. Russia dreams of owing as much territory as the Romans Did!!!!!
 
Timmahh

Timmahh

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MixedMelodyMindBender said:
My only issue every with the whole medical marijuana scene is that it makes everyone else but the "medical users"...criminals. I do not wish to be thrown in that grouping.

The right to use this plant should not be on a "medical" grounds. It should rightfully be on the grounds that from my flesh inwards is MY JURISDICTION. Not the Governments. If I for choose to flood my internal body with all the known cannabis in the world, then it is my prerogative, my right, and my choice. It effects nobody but myself, and I will be the only matter held responsible for my choices.

The medical movement has only proven to widen the problem for legalization. Its just not the right foot to walk on for this movement. It takes away from so many others that SHOULD HAVE the same terms to use this plant. It benefits , so be it!

So meanwhile the "medical patients" get their causes honored, while everyone else stays in the same violated legalities. I am not saying that the medical movement cause these problems, the laws did, but I am saying that it has caused more harm to the whole process of rightfully legalizing based on civil rights and not medical clauses. The more we focus our time and energy on the medical scene the less progress we make on what should be.

Remember, if you support "medical cannabis patient rights"....you inherently support many other things, that you may or may not be aware of.

This plant, or species, is as old as our species if NOT OLDER. My right to utilize this plant is not founded on some medical laws, never has been and never will be, its the fact that I live in a free society within a Democratic country, that I have given blood for twice in war. I will be damned and dead before anything that walks this planet tells me I can't use this plant and that if I must, I must do so within medical laws.

More so, Its based on my factual denial of our societies laws. I refuse to accept any laws in which outlaw a species that is more native to this planet than myself. More so, its a species of plant that supports our species existence. To outlaw nature is the epitome and height of American Ignorance! When you think your laws triumph mother natures laws....something is way way wrong!

Cheers World~
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APPLAUSE!
You see bob, i dont need to bring light to your ignorance and deciets, your own posts do that for you. but I will gladly accept your thanks for the education you have received over the last 2 or 3 weeks. But fear not Grasshopper, you have MANY lessons to learn. We may yet be able to call you a respectable pot head afterall.
 
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purklize

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I don't know what your problem is. You are flat out wrong though. I have spent endless hours studying history in the Hatcher Graduate Library here in Ann Arbor, I don't talk out my ass. How about you provide a citation for the Romans "ruling the world"? Unless the "world" to you is only the white parts of the world, it didn't happen.

Your reading comprehension gets an F...

Then u go on to say they [the Romans] had a "brief" rule....
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The brief term as ruler of the world for the US
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Makes me wonder what kind of retention you have when you hit the books.
 
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purklize

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From Wikipedia, which you have linked me to...

At 17,075,400 square kilometres (6,592,800 sq mi), Russia is the largest country in the world, covering more than one eighth of the Earth's inhabited land area.
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Roman expansion began in the days of the Republic, but the Empire reached its greatest extent under Emperor Trajan: during his reign (98 to 117 AD) the Roman Empire controlled approximately 6.5 million km[SUP]2[/SUP][SUP][7][/SUP] of land surface.
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So Russia currently controls almost three times as much land as the Romans did at the peak of their power.


Roman population, from your Wiki link, at its peak:

- 117[SUP][3][/SUP] est. 88,000,000
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Current Russian population:

Russia is also the eighth most populous nation with 143 million people.[SUP][9][/SUP]
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Alexander the Great wasn't Roman by the way, and his empire didn't last long at all.
 
Timmahh

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st0wandgrow said:
I could not agree with you more Melody! Our pillaging of other countries is nothing to be proud of.

Greed rules in America. These wars that are fought under the guise of "national defense" are a joke. It's nothing short of killing in the name of profit. We are not a democracy any longer. This country is an oligarchy run by a handful of rich powerful people that will kill and destroy anything that stands in the way of them making more and more money.

It's little wonder that the rest of the world hates us.
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Actually we Are a Democracy now, but one ran by the Financeirs. and the Vote is backed by the dollar.

the US is and must remain a Republic, not to be confused with a republican....
 
MixedMelodyMindBender

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What the fuck are u talking about...Your post is baseless. I get an F for comprehension? Great opinion but your talking out your ass. Bring some FACTS. DONT JUST TALK SHIT!

I provided a basics cause thats what your missing. Your denying the rule of the roman empire. Then go on to say russia ruled more. Russia was nobody in the days of the Roman Empire. Its on wiki...read for yourself.

Your making no logical sense. And I am pretty sure I am not alone on this !

Just so that we are on the same page...My name is Yevgeniy. I am a Graduate Student. Who happens to go to an IVY league school. No biggie. Cornell University....ya were infamous for F's in comprehension! I am also a Chemist. Yikes...so u were saying what about histroy????? RIGHT

http://bti.cornell.edu/schroeder/Members.html
 
CharlieBud

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purklize said:
From Wikipedia, which you have linked me to...





So Russia currently controls almost three times as much land as the Romans did at the peak of their power.


Roman population, from your Wiki link, at its peak:



Current Russian population:



Alexander the Great wasn't Roman by the way, and his empire didn't last long at all.
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purklize

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Where are your facts?

Your credentials don't make up for your lack of a credible argument, if anything you are staining the great reputation of Cornell with this childish bullshit. A real scientist would provide citations, not insults.
 
MixedMelodyMindBender

MixedMelodyMindBender

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purklize said:
From Wikipedia, which you have linked me to...





So Russia currently controls almost three times as much land as the Romans did at the peak of their power.


Roman population, from your Wiki link, at its peak:



Current Russian population:



Alexander the Great wasn't Roman by the way, and his empire didn't last long at all.
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By birth Alexander the Great was not a Roman. But to say he is not a roman is like saying Aristotle never mentored him.

Current population of Russia is irrelevant to that of Romans. Modern population is largely because of fossil fuels. Not because of great empires.

Also, that is not verbatim, you have changed some things :) How nice of ya! 6.5million km of land surface for the roman empire at its "greatest extent" and 6.592 to modern day Russia. Romans were always expanding. Part of their collapse was because of being spread to thin. They occupied to much territory. Russia can not say the same. Granted they are the largest country land mass wise now , but back when Rome Ruled, russia could not hold a flame to them.

His empire did not last long at all, but back then, Russia was surely not stopping his will.

Thanks for bring some fact work....just bring it verbatim...makes me think your changing info for a purpose
 
MixedMelodyMindBender

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purklize said:
Where are your facts?

Your credentials don't make up for your lack of a credible argument, if anything you are staining the great reputation of Cornell with this childish bullshit. A real scientist would provide citations, not insults.
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I am not a Scientist. I provided wiki. Im a student at Cornell. Childish? Pointless is more like it! I mean this is a very pointless debate. But I don't have lab for another 50 minutes.

I am gonna ask lab at the beginning of it, who thinks Russia was a greater empire during the times of the Roman Empire....I bet not one hand goes up....This is def going to Youtube

If one hand does go up, Ill just say ya u won :) But I am highly doubting that!
 
CharlieBud

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MixedMelodyMindBender said:
By birth Alexander the Great was not a Roman. But to say he is not a roman is like saying Aristotle never mentored him.

Current population of Russia is irrelevant to that of Romans. Modern population is largely because of fossil fuels. Not because of great empires.

Also, that is not verbatim, you have changed some things :) How nice of ya! 6.5million km of land surface for the roman empire at its "greatest extent" and 6.592 to modern day Russia. Romans were always expanding. Part of their collapse was because of being spread to thin. They occupied to much territory. Russia can not say the same. Granted they are the largest country land mass wise now , but back when Rome Ruled, russia could not hold a flame to them.

His empire did not last long at all, but back then, Russia was surely not stopping his will.

Thanks for bring some fact work....just bring it verbatim...makes me think your changing info for a purpose
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Please point to Rome.

 
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purklize

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How nice of ya! 6.5million km of land surface for the roman empire at its "greatest extent" and 6.592 to modern day Russia.
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Your reading comprehension has failed you again. Russia has 6.592 million sq MILES of land, and over 17 million sq KILOMETERS of land.

Russia is at a particularly weak point in its days as an empire.

To suggest that the Romans ruled the world, or that they were the greatest empire in history, is, IMO, inherently racist/Western-centric, and entirely ignorant of all the other empires of the world, such as those of China, the Mongols, those in Africa, the Incas, the Mayas, the Persians, the Ottomans, the Sassanids, etc... many which existed side by side with the Romans, neither able to defeat the other, or so far apart in space or time that they never knew of each other's existence.

By birth Alexander the Great was not a Roman. But to say he is not a roman is like saying Aristotle never mentored him.
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Aristotle was Greek, and both of them preceded the Romans, so this doesn't make any sense. If anything it would suggest that the Romans were Greek. Still doesn't make sense, but the Greeks doubtlessly held profound influence over Rome, most immediately apparent in architecture and that speaking Greek made you "sophisticated," much as Latin did through much of Western European history (which was then replaced by French, and now English).

Granted they are the largest country land mass wise now , but back when Rome Ruled, russia could not hold a flame to them.
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And Rome couldn't hold a flame to Babylon during the peak of its power either, as it didn't even exist. This comparison holds no meaning.

Just so that we are on the same page...My name is Yevgeniy. I am a Graduate Student. Who happens to go to an IVY league school. No biggie. Cornell University....ya were infamous for F's in comprehension! I am also a Chemist. Yikes...so u were saying what about histroy????? RIGHT

http://bti.cornell.edu/schroeder/Members.html
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Get over yourself, if there's anything I can't stand it's belligerent arrogance like this. Getting into an Ivy League graduate program isn't nearly so difficult as most would like to believe, particularly those who are admitted. The tough part is getting some good publications out. That's when you prove you really have it in you to be a scientist. And it appears despite getting your bachelor's 6 years ago, you still don't have a single publication. Small wonder given the research skills and the attitude you are displaying here.
 
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purklize

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I am not a Scientist. I provided wiki. Im a student at Cornell. Childish? Pointless is more like it! I mean this is a very pointless debate. But I don't have lab for another 50 minutes.

I am gonna ask lab at the beginning of it, who thinks Russia was a greater empire during the times of the Roman Empire....I bet not one hand goes up....This is def going to Youtube

If one hand does go up, Ill just say ya u won
But I am highly doubting that!
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You are not a scientist? You just said that you are a chemist working in a research lab at Cornell!

But I have to agree with you... if you think the truth on historical topics is revealed by an informal poll of grad students at a biochemistry lab, you are truly lost.
 
skunkd0c

skunkd0c

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purklize said:
To suggest that the Romans ruled the world, or that they were the greatest empire in history, is, IMO, inherently racist/Western-centric, and entirely ignorant of all the other empires of the world, such as those of China, the Mongols, those in Africa, the Incas, the Mayas, the Persians, the Ottomans, the Sassanids, etc... many which existed side by side with the Romans, neither able to defeat the other, or so far apart in space or time that they never knew of each other's existence.
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strange you did not mention the British empire in your lovely paragraph lol
i think i read some time ago, the British empire was the largest in history, it occupied more land mass than the Mongolian empire which was the 2nd largest empire in history .. but maybe they were telling lies, i hear that the victorious write history so who knows

all those countries that had little union jacks in the corner of their flags i believe they called that the commonwealth :)
oh well

peace :)
 
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purklize

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You are right - I didn't mention Britain as I was trying to drive home the point that there have been great empires outside of Europe... The US doubtlessly has more control over global affairs than Britain ever did, but Britain tended to absorb land into its territory directly rather than control others through espionage and manipulation of foreign puppet governments. WWII led to the slow fall of the British Empire, and Europe in ruins, providing a power vacuum for the US to fill. Once the Soviet Union fell, the US enjoyed 10-20 years relatively unopposed on the global stage, a situation Britain never found itself in.
 
skunkd0c

skunkd0c

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i get your point, purklize thank you for explaining it
i am not so sure about america having more control now days,
although america is much more happy to bomb folk and invade the 3rd world more than other countries are at the moment
a show of might on the world stage from the usa! about time lol
but you are still such a young country, like a teenager on the world stage :)

Europe according to the figers i have looked at produce more wealth than america does on some charts on others america is just ahead, financially they are very close
america has more control over its own people maybe
Europe and china together are much greater than america alone
when Britain had its empire, it controlled most of the world, no other groups could stand together and control more than Britain did alone
the British empire was and will most likely be the biggest empire ever

peace :)
 
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