Carbohydrates for ENHANCED FLAVOR

Hey everyone!

I'm trying to figure out what products work best not only to feed plants carbs, but to also help enhance the flavors & aroma of the final crop. I have sampled with the following: MOLASSES, AN BUD CANDY, BOTANICARE SWEET (GRAPE, CITRUS, & BERRY), AND TROPICAL ORGANICS BANANA EXTRACT

Anyone who has good experience with these products and can testify as to what works best, as well as how to properly feed your plants with these to obtain the best flavor possible. I've read of various carbo loading methods, so I'm trying to figure out what's best

The guy at my local hydro store also suggested not to use TOO many of these different flavors together, he said maybe Bud Candy & Grape, or Bud Candy & Banana, ... could be good . I'm thinking that because they are such similar compounds that I CAN use as many as I want, I'm just wondering if anyone has tried this and it gave them fruitier smelling bud or if you really can use too many flavors and experience any problems or undesireable flavors?

MOLASSES.....cheap and works great! 1 teaspoon a gallon in veg. 1-2 tablespoon in flowering

molasses^^

im using sugar daddy from BC by Technaflora.
it smells like str8 molasses.
so probably whatever you can get cheapest with molasses should help.
earth juice (organic) makes something called Escential that actually smells really good in the bottle, so ill probably mix that with the sugar daddy.
my hydro store guys dont even carry advanced, said they are all talk and marketing.

Okay, but my question is not necessarily what is the cheapest product. I'm asking about FLAVOR. I'm already experienced and know that molasses is the cheapest option out there, but money is not an issue here.

And my thought about carbs from different sources, is the banana extract I'm using for example has no molasses in it, and is a great source of naturally sweet carbs. AND CHEAP @ $14 a bottle that lasts a while. Would a source of carbs from a sweet fruit not give you tastier buds than what all that molasses will? Never liked the smell of it straight up, anyway. And the same goes for the SWEET line. I'd think feeding a strain that is supposed to have lemon scent with the SWEET Citrus would help bring it's natural aroma out? Yay? Nay?

These are just some of my logical thoughts tho. I'm looking for someone who has actually finished a grow or more with these products and can tell me about the differences they noticed, as well as the best way to go about feeding these flavored carbs to achieve such aromas. Keep all the helpful feedback coming! Thank you!

MonkeyFonics said:

im using sugar daddy from BC by Technaflora.
it smells like str8 molasses.
so probably whatever you can get cheapest with molasses should help.
earth juice (organic) makes something called Escential that actually smells really good in the bottle, so ill probably mix that with the sugar daddy.
my hydro store guys dont even carry advanced, said they are all talk and marketing.

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TY for the tips!

Now, have you ever used any flavored carbos where you were trying to induce more fruitful properties out of your harvest??? If so, did you succeed & what did you use? Or have you just been using Technaflora's products your whole time growing?

Plants dont care where food comes from, as long as they get what they want, as much as they want, and when they want it. Sounds like a woman eh? Oh shit, wait.

PS-On my first grow, using molasses on transplant, flipped to 12/12 2 days later. Watered every other time with MOL so far. They have EXPLODED 1 fold already in a 1.5 week.

Maybe its just the papaya strain, but, i think maybe dosing with molasses/HIGH CARBS avoids/cuts down transplant/FIM/TOPPING shock???....Just my theory though..........

On my outdoor I am feeding about 4 tbl per gallon and she is just sucking it up like a champion.

I used Botanicare grape and sweet in a side-by-side test and there was no difference in the aroma or flavor. That's not to say they don't work as they supply magnesium and sulfur to your plants, which they need.

Flavor comes from genetics.

homebrewer said:

I used Botanicare grape and sweet in a side-by-side test and there was no difference in the aroma or flavor. That's not to say they don't work as they supply magnesium and sulfur to your plants, which they need.

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That's very interesting! I figured it would have had more of an effect as far as flavor goes. Regardless, the plants seem to LOVE all the SWEETS, Bud Candy, & Extracts I have and are just eating up as many carbs as I give them (within reason, of course). Great products!

I drove by my hydro shop today and just went in to glance for the hell of it. I noticed that they added to the Tropical Organics offering, and have added Cocoanut Extract which has a main ingredient of Cocoa Milk. I've used their Banana Manna, but was wondering if anyone has tried Cocoanut?

amnooneoo said:

Plants dont care where food comes from, as long as they get what they want, as much as they want, and when they want it. Sounds like a woman eh? Oh shit, wait.

PS-On my first grow, using molasses on transplant, flipped to 12/12 2 days later. Watered every other time with MOL so far. They have EXPLODED 1 fold already in a 1.5 week.

Maybe its just the papaya strain, but, i think maybe dosing with molasses/HIGH CARBS avoids/cuts down transplant/FIM/TOPPING shock???....Just my theory though..........

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You're on your first grow?

Don't take offense to this bro, but I've been growing for 4 yrs now and tried various methods. This post is more for people who have multiple years of growing under there belt and, like homebrewer, have grown plants side-by-side with different nutrient variations and logged the various results of the experiment.

Also, you might want to rethink you theory about plants not caring about receiving nutes from multiple sources. Yes, mine have flourished in the past with synthetic NPK supplements and being sure to feed them properly, HOWEVER, my girls have never looked as amazing as when I switched to all organic and started offering them as many sources as I can find. My plants are feeding on different kinds of fish, alfalfa meal, kelp meal, seaweed extract, earthworm castings, volcanic ash, bat guanos, shrimp meal, crab meal, ferminted compost, yucca extract, banana extract, lime, blood meal, bone meal, and MANY MORE... Trust me, these various sources are much much better than limiting yourself to a one or two. Good luck!

i use organic maple syrup...its gives it fast growth and a strong root system i do 1tbl per gallon...

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i use organic blue agave . most whole foods sell it . its the sweet sap from the plants used to make tequilla .the sap is taken from the plant and bottled .nothing changed or added.it has been consumed by ancient civilizations for 5000 years . your going plant to plant with no middle man , and ive always had explosive results with it . one thing i will say as lame as it sounds .. no amount of chemicals , organic or synthetic .. soil or hydro will affect the out come of your plants as being totally commited to your plants , and just loving every inch of them. having the passion for them is the best thing you can give em.

amen to that

Carbs give your plants energy to grow more\bigger flowers, when harnessed properly.
flavor is not really a carbohydrate related issue.(Sweet is a good product but a little misleading, as well i dont like terpinoids or anything that modifies flavor)
flushing and stripping away all the salts from your plants before you harvest them is a big factor, as is genetics.

FYI..carbohydrates are a great innovation, duh. but if you dont have the ability to break them down small enough for your plants to uptake,your cutting your own throat, because your plant has to spend energy breaking down the carbs to use them.( the carb molecule is too big to be directly absorbed by the plant) for those who use salty\chelated nutrients, Hygrozyme is the best choice for aiding in the breakdown of carbs.(in that particular nutrient enviroment)

lol "ENHANCED FLAVOR" there are alot more important things you should be trying to achieve from your bud

sucanat SOO kuh Nat buy it in any organic food isle better then mollases check subcools organic thread on it

Chef Bob, terpenoids are the very compounds within the plant that give it's flavor and aroma. You can't add them or take them away. Every strain has a unique terpenoid profile. As does every food you eat that has taste and everything you smell that has a scent.

I read a study in urban garden (urban gardener magazine?? not sure what its called) and the scientist was basically running tests on whether carbohydrates and amino acids work or not. To be honest, the results were not impressive. The roots are not able to absorb the carbohydrates or the amino's effectively. Something about some caspian wall rejecting them I think. If they could inject carbohydrates directly into the plant it would be a different story. They are now working on some type of advanced delivery system because they feel the possibilities are great, but till then their effect is not susbstantial. I do realize, however, that carbo's feed the beneficial bacteria and if that is what your trying to do go for it, but I doubt this will directly affect taste or aroma. I wish I could find the study, I'll look for it because it was an informative piece.

the carbs have to be broken down by the micro beasties