Can't Find Rooting Gel

cowboylogic

cowboylogic

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mysunnyboy said:
you don't need anything. use ground up aspirin as mentioned above and use the hottest water you can stand to touch, not boiling tho. this allows the water to be wicked up thru the cutting pushing any air out. tip from hydro store friend that said YOU DON'T NEED ANY OF THAT CRAP. now thats a friend :peace:
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Just be very aware of using water from the hot tap. Many hot water tanks and supply lines contain 'calcified lime' which is a VERY bad thing to introduce into your medium. Now that will cause true pH issue that is almost impossible to over come...
 
VICTORYGARDENSHYDRO

VICTORYGARDENSHYDRO

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Harrekin said:
It's harsh that people lump all hydro-stores as money making scams, my local place is cheap enough for all the "branded stuff", we get a Rollitup discount and if they've seen you a few times they'll give you discounts just for the hell of it.

Tis a pity people generalise when there's people like you trying to make an honest $$$.
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I was the customer who if I didn't ask, didn't get a discount.I wasted a lot of money when I started growing. I started my store so people could get stuff at craigslist prices without having to ask. And like your local store, my regulars get an even better discount. know one has ever paid retail at my store. We have a lot of stores in my area and I wanted to have a place where you felt like family when you come in. people can Come by and show off their stuff, It seems to be working and I benefit by getting to try all the different growers stuff.
 
Sunbiz1

Sunbiz1

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mysunnyboy said:
you don't need anything. use ground up aspirin as mentioned above and use the hottest water you can stand to touch, not boiling tho. this allows the water to be wicked up thru the cutting pushing any air out. tip from hydro store friend that said YOU DON'T NEED ANY OF THAT CRAP. now thats a friend :peace:
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Mornin'

I'll use hot water, ty for the tip!....already have the powder so mine as well use it.
 
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GardenerX

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Cut some branches from a willow tree, steep them in some water... then use that water for your cuttings. Lots of rooting hormone in willows.
 
cowboylogic

cowboylogic

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Sunbiz1 said:
Since when do roots enjoy light?. Every soil grow here I have seen started in clear party cups was a failure.
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What about the many holes 'smart pots' contain? I figure air and light both enter them....true roots do not like light, but this really does not pertain in this situation....
 
Sunbiz1

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VICTORYGARDENSHYDRO said:
a smart pot is designed to air prune, when the roots hit the air and light, the ends die off
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I have smart pots here, but I'm concerned about using them. I move all my ladies from a sun room to supplemental lighting quite frequently, and have been told not move fabric pots around.

As a water grower, what's your take on roots vs light?.
 
treduece

treduece

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the only time roots need light (in case of a cutting) is when the plant has no roots at all. this is why people cut their leaves in half, so the cutting can focus on growing roots and less on growing new leaves, which it can hardly do, because it has no roots
 
VICTORYGARDENSHYDRO

VICTORYGARDENSHYDRO

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Sunbiz1 said:
I have smart pots here, but I'm concerned about using them. I move all my ladies from a sun room to supplemental lighting quite frequently, and have been told not move fabric pots around.

As a water grower, what's your take on roots vs light?.
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if your using the glass method, then the light won't matter until the roots form. I have never used this method, but if you transfer to a medium as soon as the nubs are formed, then it should work fine.
as far as the smart pot, it makes sense if your roots are self pruning when they reach the edge of the pot and are exposed to light, that light is not good for roots. But moving it will shift your dirt around and rub/disrupt your roots and possibly cause stress. If you keep them in a saucer and carry it by that without stretching the pot by the handles, you should be o.k
 
Harrekin

Harrekin

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Sunbiz1 said:
I have smart pots here, but I'm concerned about using them. I move all my ladies from a sun room to supplemental lighting quite frequently, and have been told not move fabric pots around.

As a water grower, what's your take on roots vs light?.
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You're gonna be taking the cuttings out of the glass of water before they get to the stage where light effects them negatively.

If the fabric from the smart pots is bothering you try Airpots instead, same root pruning effect but a rigid container.
 
Sunbiz1

Sunbiz1

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Harrekin said:
You're gonna be taking the cuttings out of the glass of water before they get to the stage where light effects them negatively.

If the fabric from the smart pots is bothering you try Airpots instead, same root pruning effect but a rigid container.
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I made them already, with a template and a drill. Now I'm wondering if I should even be using them b/c there is obviously no curvature on the inside to direct the roots.

I've been growing for over a decade with almost zero problems, now I'm complicating success for no reason other than to "improve". The cuttings are already done, I'm sure they'll do just fine in soil using powder. Cloning is just new to me, nothing more.
 
unohu69

unohu69

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if your going to put the cuttings in a glass of water, I have noticed keeping the rooting section dark has been quicker than not. i use black party cups, and cover the top with a piece of tinfoil, poke a hole in it drop cutting through, I put them at the edge of the veggy room so they dont get direct light, check in a week n a half to two weeks. keeping the water dark will help keep algae from forming in there. maybe a drop of superthrive in the cup also.
 
VICTORYGARDENSHYDRO

VICTORYGARDENSHYDRO

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unohu69 said:
if your going to put the cuttings in a glass of water, I have noticed keeping the rooting section dark has been quicker than not. i use black party cups, and cover the top with a piece of tinfoil, poke a hole in it drop cutting through, I put them at the edge of the veggy room so they dont get direct light, check in a week n a half to two weeks. keeping the water dark will help keep algae from forming in there. maybe a drop of superthrive in the cup also.
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great advise, I would use rapidstart over superjive though
 
unohu69

unohu69

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yeah, I bought superthrive back when i first started, and really a small bottle lasts so long i still have it, and figure it cant hurt. tho i have read that it makes plants need a longer flowering period. I only use it for clones or once early in vegg.
 
The Yorkshireman

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ssc0530

ssc0530

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i dont know if anyone posted this or not as i skipped to the end. but willow tree branches steeped in water on the stove (barely at a boil) until you have green or yellowish water. use this water to root clones. allow to soak in willow water for several hours. the aspirin idea may generally be the same thing seeing as how aspirin can be derived from willow bark.
 
zo0t

zo0t

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gets some alfalfa boil em sive em it has hormones in it fine willow tree get branchz cut em boil em u haz willow water for da rooting aid
 
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