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Fogdog

Fogdog

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Cannasaurus Rex said:
Yes all my social media (4) names involve being a dinosaur, and are fitting. Not like your avatar, unless you drive a tank for a living. What would you like to talk about? How can I stimulate your interest?
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I wasn't talking to you. Why would you feel the need to talk to me? I said you were boring, are you so lonely you need to talk to somebody who finds you boring?
 
sunni

sunni

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Roger A. Shrubber said:
Aren't you usually encouraging us, or at least me, to NOT reply to every fucking asshole who makes weird troll posts?
You can have it, but only one way....
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nope youre incorrect i said not to reply to the actual troll posts, from sock accounts because itmakes it harder on clean up
and to follow tos.
within that youre allowed to reply to people
 
Cannasaurus Rex

Cannasaurus Rex

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1685229371899.pngThose were the days...drinking at the Edelweiss, paddleboat rental then a (usually free) concert at the Forum, seen a lot of booze poured in the garbage cans by the local constabulary. I'm sure the new spa will make lasting memories for T.O. young people.
 
DIY-HP-LED

DIY-HP-LED

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Paying a living wage would help. When I was a kid, an uneducated man could have a stable job that supported a housewife and several kids, they could own a home and drive a decent car. If there is a shortage of uneducated people to fill jobs, then they need to pay more so those people can have homes, families and futures too. We managed to do it 60 years ago when we were a much poorer society than we are today, but the gap between the rich and the poor was much narrower, the wealthy never had nearly as big a portion of the national wealth and paid a lot more taxes. Everybody is short of money, regular people and governments, only the wealthy are doing well, and the super-rich are doing the best of all.

 
Cannasaurus Rex

Cannasaurus Rex

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Sorry if My approach and response to insults bring out a defensive side, and opinions that rile up the opposition get me accused of being a troll or a fake account. I will try and temper my sarcastic sense of humour, as post like the above are accurate, but I have always been the type to try and cure the disease persay, and not treat the symptoms. To make change beneficial for 'society', getting to the bottom of the causes of our 'problems' and correcting those root causes are the only viable way forward. Treating the outcome or symptoms of the problems only allow for the causes to continue and entrench them. This thread is a microcosm of what goes on in Our and the US government question periods. Dissuading opinions are need to provoke something other than straight line thinking, which most of us can agree can lead us down the wrong path. I want what any Canadian would want, a decent wage, a good medical system, a just society, and a positive outlook for our future generations.
 
Cannasaurus Rex

Cannasaurus Rex

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DIY-HP-LED said:
We managed to do it 60 years ago when we were a much poorer society than we are today
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We manage to do it 30 even 20 years ago, as well. I agree with a living wage, or at least wages that pace cost of living increases. I don't believe the rich are the cause of our decline in personal wealth, or the ability to become rich with effective choices, education, inheritance and hard work are a problem either. I believe the loss of a large manufacturing based labour market, is at the root of our decline. We had huge growth after the population culls of ww1 and ww2 as industry was huge, population was small in Canada, and the war effort spurred so much growth in a young industrializing nation. From the 30's to the 70's, we had huge growth in manufacturing which also required huge effort in raw material supply chain, which always suited Canada...we got lots a stuff here to cut down, mine from the ground, and lots of space to grow food. People were worth something and educated nations did very well. Since we have moved away from manufacturing, and towards increased automation (now computer assisted and robotics) we have rendered human labour (and people themselves) as less important to the economic production of our country. We have changed our reliance on material wealth from self-production to importing our goods from nations who are seeing the exact same growth in this millenium, that we saw in the post war era. Manufacturing the 'stuff' for North American and free world developed societies , which we see as 'wealth', is lifting communist and 'less developed' countries out of poverty by stimulating growth and opportunity among their citizens. People are important to developing nations, but here people (or labour) are 'too expensive' and demand 'too much' to sustain economic profitability. We have allowed manufacturing and production to be moved offshore. Our technological advancents are so entrenched into the manufacturing sector and have displaced so many 'regular' jobs. We don't produce enough GDP per person (proportionetly) to have general individual wealth levels like the past. High tech industry and manufacturing don't require the same amount of human bodies to produce income, for business owners, yet they are literally the hands that feed us. Its nice that we are generally smarter, but as individuals we have a 'hangover' of want and desire left from a growing and booming manufacturing era, coupled with a personal demand for more and better stuff. Is it corporate greed? Or are we as Canadians mirroring this 'greed' in wanting more stuff for less work? Less work is available and more people want more? Nowadays we are turning to government to 'correct' this disparity, which seems to get us more taxation (from the dwindling rich?) and more regulation on the resource extraction industries and manufacturing, and hence less jobs. My personal wealth has been chipped away mostly because of increasing fees and taxation on my 'necessities' in the last couple decades, not because of lack of working hard, and becoming more efficient (constant learning and adaptation). It is being nickle and dimed to death by fees and an ever increasing funding of government and bureaurocracy. It is also being chipped away by dwindling dependability of owned products in our households and a 'throw-away' society. Who is to blame? Who can rectify these things for the betterment of all? My family is all service workers and this is what most of the frontline job growth areas are, and even that sector is becoming threatened. We can't grow wealth by serving other Canadians, we must have trade in our national favour to grow, otherwise we are just recirculating the money made from the past. Growth away from fossil fuels and resource extraction will only benefit us if the product of this growth makes our essential needs cheaper in relation to our individual wealth. This is not happening, and it looks like it won't be anytime soon, if we are all ashamed of own successes of the past. We always want to be better for each other and our planet, but we are taking way from the older foundations of that principle, yet want to have more but we work harder and smarter for it. I am not ashamed of the 'West' or our past. We have the ability to lead the world, but seem to be stumbling all over ourselves, and our expectations of what personal wealth and happiness are.
The only thing I can do is keep working and helping out my kids, and keep up with taxes, while settling for less 'stuff'. Oh and voting too LOL.
 
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DIY-HP-LED

DIY-HP-LED

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Cannasaurus Rex said:
We manage to do it 30 even 20 years ago, as well. I agree with a living wage, or at least wages that pace cost of living increases. I don't believe the rich are the cause of our decline in personal wealth, or the ability to become rich with effective choices, education, inheritance and hard work are a problem either. I believe the loss of a large manufacturing based labour market, is at the root of our decline. We had huge growth after the population culls of ww1 and ww2 as industry was huge, population was small in Canada, and the war effort spurred so much growth in a young industrializing nation. From the 30's to the 70's, we had huge growth in manufacturing which also required huge effort in raw material supply chain, which always suited Canada...we got lots a stuff here to cut down, mine from the ground, and lots of space to grow food. People were worth something and educated nations did very well. Since we have moved away from manufacturing, and towards increased automation (now computer assisted and robotics) we have rendered human labour (and people themselves) as less important to the economic production of our country. We have changed our reliance on material wealth from self-production to importing our goods from nations who are seeing the exact same growth in this millenium, that we saw in the post war era. Manufacturing the 'stuff' for North American and free world developed societies , which we see as 'wealth', is lifting communist and 'less developed' countries out of poverty by stimulating growth and opportunity among their citizens. People are important to developing nations, but here people (or labour) are 'too expensive' and demand 'too much' to sustain economic profitability. We have allowed manufacturing and production to be moved offshore. Our technological advancents are so entrenched into the manufacturing sector and have displaced so many 'regular' jobs. We don't produce enough GDP per person (proportionetly) to have general individual wealth levels like the past. High tech industry and manufacturing don't require the same amount of human bodies to produce income, for business owners, yet they are literally the hands that feed us. Its nice that we are generally smarter, but as individuals we have a 'hangover' of want and desire left from a growing and booming manufacturing era, coupled with a personal demand for more and better stuff. Is it corporate greed? Or are we as Canadians mirroring this 'greed' in wanting more stuff for less work? Less work is available and more people want more? Nowadays we are turning to government to 'correct' this disparity, which seems to get us more taxation (from the dwindling rich?) and more regulation on the resource extraction industries and manufacturing, and hence less jobs. My personal wealth has been chipped away mostly because of increasing fees and taxation on my 'necessities' in the last couple decades, not because of lack of working hard, and becoming more efficient (constant learning and adaptation). It is being nickle and dimed to death by fees and an ever increasing funding of government and bureaurocracy. It is also being chipped away by dwindling dependability of owned products in our households and a 'throw-away' society. Who is to blame? Who can rectify these things for the betterment of all? My family is all service workers and this is what most of the frontline job growth areas are, and even that sector is becoming threatened. We can't grow wealth by serving other Canadians, we must have trade in our national favour to grow, otherwise we are just recirculating the money made from the past. Growth away from fossil fuels and resource extraction will only benefit us if the product of this growth makes our essential needs cheaper in relation to our individual wealth. This is not happening, and it looks like it won't be anytime soon, if we are all ashamed of own successes of the past. We always want to be better for each other and our planet, but we are taking way from the older foundations of that principle, yet want to have more but we work harder and smarter for it. I am not ashamed of the 'West' or our past. We have the ability to lead the world, but seem to be stumbling all over ourselves, and our expectations of what personal wealth and happiness are.
The only thing I can do is keep working and helping out my kids, and keep up with taxes, while settling for less 'stuff'. Oh and voting too LOL.
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We have this thing in English called a paragraph and it makes reading things much easier than a wall of text which I'm skipping.
 
cannabineer

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
Cannasaurus Rex said:
Sorry for the grammar cringe layout.
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It’s less about grammar, and more about style and syntax, and to a degree about presentation.

James Hutton, one of the fathers of modern geology, wrote in a style that was grammatically correct, unassailable in factually, but impenetrable to the casual reader.

So being correct is one thing. But being correct and engaging is another.
 
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