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CunningCanuk

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I thought the first thing that happens in an espionage situation like this was a call from your PM to their PM first before we let the outraged masses become aware. It is surprising to some that separatist factions (gov'ts, independence movements et al) are not treated with the same acceptance that strong, free, democracies allow.
Looks like you thought wrong. Again.

Seems to be a trend.
 

CunningCanuk

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Openly accusing a gov't of murder, inviting an enemy of their state to a Canadian delegation dinner, acting a fool on your first visit. Hopefully India will offer up the dufus who got caught on video (apparently), for justice in Canada. Hopefully India cares about their international reputation and their relationship with Canadian citizenry. We have a large population of Indian Canadians, I'm not sure of the ratio of Sikhs in Canada. The Indian Gov't vs Independant Punjab has been violent for some time now. I don't think the PM of India is in a negotiating mode with JT at the moment, we'll see how fearless leader does here, as the ball is in our court.
You seem to be okay with Canadian citizens being murdered by foreign governments. Who gives a fuck about what the Indian government thinks and why would we negotiate with fascists?

Don’t you have more important things to worry about like pronouns and transgender sporting events?
 

Dorian2

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Any thoughts on Canada being pissed off at India for their government committing murder on Canadian soil like the Russians and Saudis do?

Apparently, they have video...
Sorry, missed your post earlier. I'm just as pissed off as anybody if India did this and there is verifiable proof. The reason I asked the question that way is because I haven't looked into it too much on my own, and some people, like yourself, dig into these things a a lot more than I do.

In a previous life and way of thinking, I would have had no question about our country's leadership getting the right information from, as @CANON_Grow mentioned, CSIS and other sources. But by the way Trudeau has mishandled multiple situations recently, my Bullshit meter has changed. Now if they have verified evidence and opt to relay it to the Canadian public, the question that I asked will have been answered. But the big BUT for me, is that phrases like "apparently have video", "may be linked", and "credible allegations" do not hold sway for me any longer, unfortunately.
 

Dorian2

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Hell no, who cares?


How so?
Who cares? As a Canadian, I do, as should you. India isn't a small cog in Global economics.

As far as how so? First off, that's a loaded question for a pretty serious talking point I was trying to bring into a conversation about our nations people, economy, and global relations with multiple countries. I don't know enough about politics, economics, or national defence to really answer that, but here's a starting point if you're so inclined to read the links. We ain't talking peanuts here.

https://tradingeconomics.com/canada/imports/india
https://oec.world/en/profile/bilateral-country/ind/partner/can

And considering that this is a Cannabis thread.....

https://www.scoopwhoop.com/reads/kinds-of-maal-in-india/

I also read that the original Lambs Breath was derived from India, so there's that.
 
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printer

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India suspends visas for Canadians in escalating clash
India suspended all visa services for Canadians on Thursday and ordered a reduction of diplomatic staffing — a dramatic escalation of tensions between the two countries since Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau levied accusations of Indian involvement in an assassination of a Canadian citizen on its soil.

“Important notice from Indian Mission: Due to operational reasons, with effect from 21 Sept. Indian visa services have been suspended till further notice,” the BLS Indian Visa Application Center in Canada said, according to The Associated Press (AP).

The notice affects Canadians who do not already have visas and incudes e-visas and visas issued in other countries.
Indian External Affairs Ministry spokesperson Arindam Bagchi called for a comparable diplomatic response amid rising tensions and reportedly confirmed the temporary suspension of processing visa requests.

“Security threats being faced by our High Commission and consulates in Canada have disrupted their normal functioning,” Bagchi said, as reported by the AP. “Accordingly, they are temporarily unable to process visa applications. We will be reviewing the situation on a regular basis.”
“We have informed the Canadian government that there should be parity in strength and rank equivalence in our mutual diplomatic presence,” he added, calling for the reduction of Canadian diplomats in India.

The development comes as tensions have continued to escalate between the two countries this week.
Trudeau said on Monday there were “credible allegations” that India was involved in the killing of 45-year-old Canadian citizen Hardeep Singh Nijjar — a self-described “Sikh nationalist who believes in and supports Sikhs’ right to self-determination.” He had been wanted by Indian authorities for years, according to the AP.

Nijjar was killed outside a temple in June, outside of Vancouver.
Trudeau has not provided any public proof of his allegation, and India’s government has vehemently denied involvement. Since Monday, each country has expelled a diplomat.

On Wednesday, India’s Ministry of External Affairs issued an advisory to Indian nationals and students in Canada, warning “of growing anti-India activities and politically-condoned hate crimes and criminal violence in Canada.”

“All Indian nationals there and those contemplating travel are urged to exercise utmost caution,” the ministry said in a post on X, formerly known as Twitter. “Recently, threats have particularly targeted Indian diplomats and sections of the Indian community who oppose the anti-India agenda.”
“Indian nationals are therefore advised to avoid travelling to regions and potential venues in Canada that have seen such incidents,” the ministry added.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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India suspends visas for Canadians in escalating clash
India suspended all visa services for Canadians on Thursday and ordered a reduction of diplomatic staffing — a dramatic escalation of tensions between the two countries since Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau levied accusations of Indian involvement in an assassination of a Canadian citizen on its soil.

“Important notice from Indian Mission: Due to operational reasons, with effect from 21 Sept. Indian visa services have been suspended till further notice,” the BLS Indian Visa Application Center in Canada said, according to The Associated Press (AP).

The notice affects Canadians who do not already have visas and incudes e-visas and visas issued in other countries.
Indian External Affairs Ministry spokesperson Arindam Bagchi called for a comparable diplomatic response amid rising tensions and reportedly confirmed the temporary suspension of processing visa requests.

“Security threats being faced by our High Commission and consulates in Canada have disrupted their normal functioning,” Bagchi said, as reported by the AP. “Accordingly, they are temporarily unable to process visa applications. We will be reviewing the situation on a regular basis.”
“We have informed the Canadian government that there should be parity in strength and rank equivalence in our mutual diplomatic presence,” he added, calling for the reduction of Canadian diplomats in India.

The development comes as tensions have continued to escalate between the two countries this week.
Trudeau said on Monday there were “credible allegations” that India was involved in the killing of 45-year-old Canadian citizen Hardeep Singh Nijjar — a self-described “Sikh nationalist who believes in and supports Sikhs’ right to self-determination.” He had been wanted by Indian authorities for years, according to the AP.

Nijjar was killed outside a temple in June, outside of Vancouver.
Trudeau has not provided any public proof of his allegation, and India’s government has vehemently denied involvement. Since Monday, each country has expelled a diplomat.

On Wednesday, India’s Ministry of External Affairs issued an advisory to Indian nationals and students in Canada, warning “of growing anti-India activities and politically-condoned hate crimes and criminal violence in Canada.”

“All Indian nationals there and those contemplating travel are urged to exercise utmost caution,” the ministry said in a post on X, formerly known as Twitter. “Recently, threats have particularly targeted Indian diplomats and sections of the Indian community who oppose the anti-India agenda.”
“Indian nationals are therefore advised to avoid travelling to regions and potential venues in Canada that have seen such incidents,” the ministry added.
After being caught red handed and called out in public over it, what can they do but squirm and lie? I mean an inquiry or court case could settle the matter quickly, unless some people were too big to fail in India. Even though "I was just following orders" is not a defense, they would likely use it if tried for murder in Canada.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Let's see what do we have here?
It looks like one group, motivated by hate and fear, is trying to suppress the human rights and inclusivity of another who happen to be a minority. They don't appear to have a good reason or any reason to harass these people and socially assault them on a personal or organized level. The cover that they are doing it for "the children" is bullshit, most don't give a fuck about kid's safety as we see demonstrated with guns in the US. The same kinds of people who are against LBGTQ rights are the same ones who don't want to control guns, even though guns kill the most kids every year in America. They are also the same ones who support fascism, book banning and burning, a lot of them don't like history or science either.

 

printer

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Let's see what do we have here?
It looks like one group, motivated by hate and fear, is trying to suppress the human rights and inclusivity of another who happen to be a minority. They don't appear to have a good reason or any reason to harass these people and socially assault them on a personal or organized level. The cover that they are doing it for "the children" is bullshit, most don't give a fuck about kid's safety as we see demonstrated with guns in the US. The same kinds of people who are against LBGTQ rights are the same ones who don't want to control guns, even though guns kill the most kids every year in America. They are also the same ones who support fascism, book banning and burning, a lot of them don't like history or science either.

"But if they die as a result of getting shot at least their soul's would be intact."
 

HenryTheEighth

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India suspends visas for Canadians in escalating clash
India suspended all visa services for Canadians on Thursday and ordered a reduction of diplomatic staffing — a dramatic escalation of tensions between the two countries since Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau levied accusations of Indian involvement in an assassination of a Canadian citizen on its soil.

“Important notice from Indian Mission: Due to operational reasons, with effect from 21 Sept. Indian visa services have been suspended till further notice,” the BLS Indian Visa Application Center in Canada said, according to The Associated Press (AP).

The notice affects Canadians who do not already have visas and incudes e-visas and visas issued in other countries.
Indian External Affairs Ministry spokesperson Arindam Bagchi called for a comparable diplomatic response amid rising tensions and reportedly confirmed the temporary suspension of processing visa requests.

“Security threats being faced by our High Commission and consulates in Canada have disrupted their normal functioning,” Bagchi said, as reported by the AP. “Accordingly, they are temporarily unable to process visa applications. We will be reviewing the situation on a regular basis.”
“We have informed the Canadian government that there should be parity in strength and rank equivalence in our mutual diplomatic presence,” he added, calling for the reduction of Canadian diplomats in India.

The development comes as tensions have continued to escalate between the two countries this week.
Trudeau said on Monday there were “credible allegations” that India was involved in the killing of 45-year-old Canadian citizen Hardeep Singh Nijjar — a self-described “Sikh nationalist who believes in and supports Sikhs’ right to self-determination.” He had been wanted by Indian authorities for years, according to the AP.

Nijjar was killed outside a temple in June, outside of Vancouver.
Trudeau has not provided any public proof of his allegation, and India’s government has vehemently denied involvement. Since Monday, each country has expelled a diplomat.

On Wednesday, India’s Ministry of External Affairs issued an advisory to Indian nationals and students in Canada, warning “of growing anti-India activities and politically-condoned hate crimes and criminal violence in Canada.”

“All Indian nationals there and those contemplating travel are urged to exercise utmost caution,” the ministry said in a post on X, formerly known as Twitter. “Recently, threats have particularly targeted Indian diplomats and sections of the Indian community who oppose the anti-India agenda.”
“Indian nationals are therefore advised to avoid travelling to regions and potential venues in Canada that have seen such incidents,” the ministry added.
Trudeau is hopeless and compromised on many fronts.
Who does he have good relations with?
This is just another embarrassment that he oversees.
 

HenryTheEighth

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If Trudeau said nothing you would call him weak.

I’m not even slightly concerned about India. Our southern neighbour’s foray into totalitarianism is what keeps me up at night.
Trudeau could do push ups all week and I would call him a dunce.
Saying something does not make him strong.
It makes him a useful idiot.

The only ones that gain from this nonesense is China if you ask me. Don’t they fund the Trudeau foundation and wasn’t Jussy in political trouble for that five minutes ago?

It could all be a song and dance to be a massive distraction perpetrated by those that need a distraction.
He seems too keen to make this a massive standoff.
 

printer

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Trudeau could do push ups all week and I would call him a dunce.
Saying something does not make him strong.
It makes him a useful idiot.

The only ones that gain from this nonesense is China if you ask me. Don’t they fund the Trudeau foundation and wasn’t Jussy in political trouble for that five minutes ago?

It could all be a song and dance to be a massive distraction perpetrated by those that need a distraction.
He seems too keen to make this a massive standoff.
Controversial Trudeau Foundation donation from Beijing-linked businessman was not reimbursed
A controversial $140,000 donation to the Pierre Elliott Trudeau Foundation has not yet been returned because the charity has been unable to find anyone able to accept the payment, say sources who have spoken with Radio-Canada.

Last month, the Globe and Mail reported that Zhang Bin — a businessman later identified by the newspaper as being linked to the Chinese government — pledged in 2016 to donate $200,000 to the foundation that bears the name of Prime Minister Justin Trudeau's father.

Shortly after that report, foundation president Pascale Fournier said the foundation had reimbursed the full amount of the donation.

The foundation said in a media statement late Wednesday that "a reimbursement cheque was issued in the name of the donor which made those payments and to which CRA charitable receipts were issued."

Radio-Canada confirmed Wednesday that the money has not been returned. The refund cheque was issued but it has yet to be cashed because no one was able to accept the cheque on behalf of the corporation.

Also the foundation is in the "Pierre Elliott Trudeau Foundation" and not the "Justin Trudeau Foundation". But that is of little difference to some I guess.
 

CANON_Grow

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Trudeau could do push ups all week and I would call him a dunce.
Saying something does not make him strong.
It makes him a useful idiot.

The only ones that gain from this nonesense is China if you ask me. Don’t they fund the Trudeau foundation and wasn’t Jussy in political trouble for that five minutes ago?

It could all be a song and dance to be a massive distraction perpetrated by those that need a distraction.
He seems too keen to make this a massive standoff.
Sounds like quite the conspiracy. Being that the RCMP had warned the victim about the threat to his life last year, and the victim meeting with CSIS regularly in the months prior to his death, leads me to believe they had some idea what was happening. Yet you're thinking... China?

What exactly is the distraction from? Every news article I've come across paints the picture that the Canadian government didn't want this to become public, and knew the shit storm that was going to follow after making it public. That's why they told our main allies in person, because they knew it was such a problem.

So, JT is a useful idiot.... China is the only one to gain from this.... The Trudeau foundation received money from China.... connect the dots for me. I'm very confused on how it's all intertwined.
 
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