Can MJ Grow Somewhere With No Rain?

asaph

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in my country there is no rain in the summer, not the slightest bit. so i was wondering, would it be possible to do a guerilla grow without maintenance, i.e going to water? say, near a river or a lake?
 

Mort Fink

New Member
Maybe if you set up some sort of automatic watering system that drips. I wouldn't plant near a lake or stream, it has a better chance of being spotted.
 

asaph

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you see the thing is, i wouldn't care if it were spotted, because i wouldn't be growing to harvest, but rather as a "natural" way of protesting against the war on drugs. I would guess the soil near a stream would be moist enough all year round to grow, wouldn't it? as long as the stream itself doesn't dry. but i need some info on this.
 

jagle

Active Member
cannabis doesnt grow all year its an annual plant not a perennial plant so itll die in winter time
 

asaph

Well-Known Member
true, but if the plant lives till maturity there's a good chance it will cast some seeds in the ground and they will sprout come next spring.
 

solarphlare

Active Member
And why cause attention to growing the plant that so many people are hating on, are there not enough people out there already that have a negative image of people who grow meds, I think it would be wise not to only fuel the fire of those who say that people who grow are little devils, and how exactly does growing some wheres for people to see help out any cause, except cause problems with your community and also creating chaos in the world of cannabis cultivation, I believe that marijuana does not need any more negativity drawn to it, no offense just my two American dollars.
 

asaph

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afraid i disagree with you on that. firstly, and quite important, I don't live in the US, and where I live, although they have instituted medical weed, growing your own medicine is still illegal, even if you are entitled to have it. this is a very good reason to protest. It is a classical case of a deal bargained on the backs of citizens.

second of all rights are not gained by hiding in the shade and hoping for mercy. human rights are gained with protest and fighting for what you believe (not violently of course). showing marijuana as a plant that grows naturally is the best way to protest and at the same time bear a true environmental as well as human message: that everybody has the right to enjoy this plant, and any legal limitation on that (aside reasonable protection on youth) is immoral. Besides, I really do not think that plants growing naturally outdoors could attarct any sort of negative attention. It can only educate people - ignorance is our worst enemy.

besides - it's also the safest practical way to protest - unless you are caught sowing (which is very hard to do), you can never be linked to a plant unless you harvest it. and you're not. let some one else take that chance and enjoy the fruits of nature.
 

solarphlare

Active Member
I understand but you are saying that you are going to grow it and not stand up and say hell I did it and this is why. Your saying that you are going to trow some seeds in the ground and walk away, how are you accomplishing anything positive for the marijuana community except only making people think that here is another example of some young punk, believe me this is what many will think. If you plan on changing the world then put it out there and say I did it and this is why, because I believe blah blah blah, fill in the blanks. Look I am not trying to start a war over views you do what you are going to do, I am certainly not your father and I have to much sense to get into a debate over some ting on the Internet, just plain retarded. Ignorance is our worst enemy I agree, So if your not up to trying to change the world and all that comes along with it than be careful. Any way love your fellow man and help each other grow, both in life and with photosynthesis.
And I am done with this topic.
PEACE LOVE AND HAPPY HIGH TIMES
 

jagle

Active Member
true, but if the plant lives till maturity there's a good chance it will cast some seeds in the ground and they will sprout come next spring.
only if it gets polinated by a male weed plant, or if it is a guy finds a girl nearby, see, you would wanna plant a fair amount of regular seeds in each area
 

asaph

Well-Known Member
I understand but you are saying that you are going to grow it and not stand up and say hell I did it and this is why. Your saying that you are going to trow some seeds in the ground and walk away, how are you accomplishing anything positive for the marijuana community except only making people think that here is another example of some young punk, believe me this is what many will think. If you plan on changing the world then put it out there and say I did it and this is why, because I believe blah blah blah, fill in the blanks. Look I am not trying to start a war over views you do what you are going to do, I am certainly not your father and I have to much sense to get into a debate over some ting on the Internet, just plain retarded. Ignorance is our worst enemy I agree, So if your not up to trying to change the world and all that comes along with it than be careful. Any way love your fellow man and help each other grow, both in life and with photosynthesis.
And I am done with this topic.
PEACE LOVE AND HAPPY HIGH TIMES
thank you! i do appreciate you sharing your opinion. even though i disagree. you do have a point about standing behind what i do - even if it means I would go to jail, but there is also much point behind acting anonymously (as long as it's not violence), and there are other ways to stand up for what you do that don't lead you to jail. mind that these actions actually cause no harm to anyone. you could compare it to the pride parade perhaps - while many people do not like it and claim it only causes antagonism, it makes the gay voice heard loud and clear - and the positive results of these parade (who are not even violent) are seen quite clearly throughout the western world, in much part thanks to these parades!

one of the main problems of our side in the war - i.e the victims - is that even though we are a relatively large portion of the population (much larger than LGBT), our voice is hardly ever heard, due to us being tagged as petty criminals, losers, etc, as well as the association with hard drug users. but more than that it's the fear that leaves us home when there are demonstrations (or keeps any from happening). so it's a vicious circle - we are silent because we are afraid, we are afraid because we are harmed, and we are harmed because we are silent - all and all, we end up growing in closets (how symbolic!) and waiting for that midnight knock on the door, forever holding silence instead of being proud of the one thing that makes us happy. we must put a stop to it. and if everyone did this, it would take us one step closer.

so protest and civic disobedience - yes! violence - no.
 

huklburryfin

Active Member
im sorry but i dont really see much point in this. first of all, the chance of the plants surviving with no human interaction is very small, especially if your area gets no summer rain. second, even if the plants did survive, if they are not in a populated area than few people will see them. third, this is not a good way to protest marijuana prohibition. if people see the weed plants, what will they think? most will destroy or steal them, or alert police. it does send a message though that weed is only a plant and will never be eliminated, but most likely it will just be seen as some punk kid attempting to grow weed. you could also potentially put the person who owns the property in jail. it would be cool to see weed growing naturally, but as a from of protest it really has little effect. it would be better to join some sort of group or rally, and put up educational poster etc. your really only putting yourself at risk doing this
 

asaph

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im sorry but i dont really see much point in this. first of all, the chance of the plants surviving with no human interaction is very small, especially if your area gets no summer rain. second, even if the plants did survive, if they are not in a populated area than few people will see them. third, this is not a good way to protest marijuana prohibition. if people see the weed plants, what will they think? most will destroy or steal them, or alert police. it does send a message though that weed is only a plant and will never be eliminated, but most likely it will just be seen as some punk kid attempting to grow weed. you could also potentially put the person who owns the property in jail. it would be cool to see weed growing naturally, but as a from of protest it really has little effect. it would be better to join some sort of group or rally, and put up educational poster etc. your really only putting yourself at risk doing this
thank you too man. i am still in my opinion though. you also didn't fully understand me, not necessarily on your fault. and of course i'm talking about public space alone, not putting it in anyone's property god forbid (that would be like violence). i still think it's a good plan, though perhaps not really viable - my country is so arid that i'd have to put it right by the river for it to live the summer - and we only have very few rivers (it's a very small country). perhaps i can sow it in the fall, as it never freezes here and a plant can bud during the winter with a shorter life span. could be good to try that. by the way, how is growing guerilla grows for profit any better than doing what i would like to do? it ain't. if i can make plants that can be harvested (by someone else) without any intervention during grow. and I still think it may be possible near the river where soil doesn't get dry at 2-3 feet deep, or in the winter when it usually rains every now and then).
 

huklburryfin

Active Member
like i said it would be very hard to get any sort of harvest outside if your not tending to the plants. but can you please explain how this is going to have any effect on marijuana prohibition? other than saying "fuck you" to the government, and maybe planting the idea in peoples heads that weed is only a plant, i really dont see this as being effective.....
 

asaph

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alright. since you ask! a few things:

first of all, it is positive action. It is much better than sitting and whining. Growing for yield is of course also positive action. But being candid, it is less useful for the anti-prohibition purpose. If plants are harvested at random on the side of the river or in an open field, and people start hearing about a phenomenon and it's getting some media attention - well, like the example I gave about the parades - exposure of protest is a key element, consistency is another even more important factor. It won't suffice, of course, victory seems ever so far, but we all need faith that's for sure. Also, "planting the idea" like you said, this can also be important.

Another issue about action is that the more it yields, the more weed becomes part of life. In my language it's called "setting the facts in the field", say, if 30 coffee shops would now be open in my city at the same time, all selling weed like in amsterdam, it is possible (although not necessarily likely) that they would not all be closed down on one night. and perhaps, one would be shut down and two days later 3 more start running. before we know it amsterdam is happening right here in the midst of all the shit, and pretty soon they would see how good it is and move their eyes the other way. as you create an existing reality, it can become more easily legitimized and less easily prohibited.

the third element is the yield itself - i would be doing something for someone else - i sow and give them the chance, they harvest and take the risk. And they will have a nice smoke.

so that's what i was thinking. the real question is of course, will it grow and flower in the winter here (very warm and sunny with rain sometimes too). when should I sow. Should I risk and try to grow through seedlingdom indoor. yeah i'll probably have to.
 

jesco51

Active Member
When I first read why you were going to grow I thought to myself that's pretty retarded. Then I realized it's still pretty retarded. Peace.
 

tristynhawk

Well-Known Member
like i said it would be very hard to get any sort of harvest outside if your not tending to the plants. but can you please explain how this is going to have any effect on marijuana prohibition? other than saying "fuck you" to the government, and maybe planting the idea in peoples heads that weed is only a plant, i really dont see this as being effective.....
What's wrong with saying FUCK YOU to the government. Use water polymer's bro
 

OleSailor

Member
IMO anyone growing for personal use is on the right track towards changing opinions. It's a shame you can't grow it with your tomatoes though!

You seem to be taking the "If it grows, it grows" attitude towards gardening though.... and if you want rewards you often have to work for them, especially in the gardening world. Don't kid yourself into thinking you don't care if your plant is spotted, because a part of you wants that end result - so put it in a good spot! What good is growing a rose if you can't see its bloom? If you're going to do it, do it right to the best of your abilities. And if you have more seeds left over then plant them where you don't care about them so you can make your statement. Heck, plant them in the public gardens! But take care of yourself first and be safe.
 

asaph

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IMO anyone growing for personal use is on the right track towards changing opinions. It's a shame you can't grow it with your tomatoes though!

You seem to be taking the "If it grows, it grows" attitude towards gardening though.... and if you want rewards you often have to work for them, especially in the gardening world. Don't kid yourself into thinking you don't care if your plant is spotted, because a part of you wants that end result - so put it in a good spot! What good is growing a rose if you can't see its bloom? If you're going to do it, do it right to the best of your abilities. And if you have more seeds left over then plant them where you don't care about them so you can make your statement. Heck, plant them in the public gardens! But take care of yourself first and be safe.
well yeah that's what i was saying - i wasn't talking about buying seeds for it. but it would be an "altruistic" grow (which is why i won't invest anything in it aside from sowing leftover seeds) - for anyone who happens to be there when it's ripe, not for me. I won't take the risk of actually growing it - i prefer to grow indoors for that where it's safe. I do grow plants of course, aside from that.
 
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