Budologist420
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legalization means government control
Can MJ Grow Somewhere With No Rain?
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LBH
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So you want to protest,...stand up for something and SHOUT the injustice to the world,....but you want to do it anonymously?????? (scratching head) If you so desire to be the rebel, the protester, have some balls and do it with a face. If you want to stand up for growing weed, plant it in your front yard and preach the reasons why that is your right. Sticking a plant where the public will blame a guerrilla grower for polluting the place is just pointless and detrimental. I can appreciate your drive and see your core point but change comes with sacrifice, nothing is free
asaph
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like i said here before, i do see your point about standing up for what you do. maybe if i had your great american spirit of freedom, that's what I would do. But I'm too chickenshit!So you want to protest,...stand up for something and SHOUT the injustice to the world,....but you want to do it anonymously?????? (scratching head) If you so desire to be the rebel, the protester, have some balls and do it with a face. If you want to stand up for growing weed, plant it in your front yard and preach the reasons why that is your right. Sticking a plant where the public will blame a guerrilla grower for polluting the place is just pointless and detrimental. I can appreciate your drive and see your core point but change comes with sacrifice, nothing is free
But then, I have a question for every one of you who asks about it: why don't YOU show your grow to the entire world on your name? and be ready to take the punishment? and would it really be worth it, to go to jail for a piece in the news that will hopefully get some attention? not a simple answer here - sometimes it is worth it because it's the only way. Protest is no doubt damn important, right, we agree on that. the cause is a highly worthy cause (that even stands amongst the important struggles in our world, for world peace etc.), i think this is also agreed.
so the only question is whether it is good and useful to protest anonymously (I think it sure is), or necessary to stand up behind your protest and make your voice heard for what and who it is. I don't there's a simple answer on that one, but I would like to do what I believe in.
Sticking a plant in public could also be a social service... giving away free marijuana!
I agree with LBH though, communication is key. You can't expect to win over opinions just by growing a plant, you must communicate the ideas. Cops are more than willing to use your plant as a reason why the war on marijuana is good and to keep them in a job.
I agree with LBH though, communication is key. You can't expect to win over opinions just by growing a plant, you must communicate the ideas. Cops are more than willing to use your plant as a reason why the war on marijuana is good and to keep them in a job.
asaph
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yep that's what i was talking about.
I agree with LBH though, communication is key. You can't expect to win over opinions just by growing a plant, you must communicate the ideas. Cops are more than willing to use your plant as a reason why the war on marijuana is good and to keep them in a job.[/QUOTE]
you're right. well there are ways to communicate ideas and get some attention without being exposed. it ain't easy but it would be worth a shot.
and by the way, you can say that about cops no matter what I do. People can always take something you do and try to make you and it look bad. But then you have your own actions (and sometimes yourself) to speak up for yourself and maybe counter that. so there's not much sense in being afraid to do something just because how someone would make you look.
as long as i'm not hurting anyone, I don't think there should be a problem
But the thing about your actions is the cops have press releases to make those look bad... and say "We just got $x off the streets!" making people think there was some criminal activity. Honestly, I think the way that marijuana attitudes will change is through the medical process. People spend millions on man-made drugs to combat their illnesses when there is a natural home-grown way to treat... people just need to realize that it is not as harmful and evil as they make it out to be (like everyone's afraid that profits from marijuana go towards gangs and are a funding system for street crime, when in reality most growers want nothing to do with that.) Hardly anyone is going to look at your plant and think about how great it would be if legal unless they already subscribe to that belief to begin with.
Anyways, to bring this back to the topic of growing.... plants need water. It will either die from being too dry if it doesn't get any or have very limited growth. Anyone who is serious about growing would put it in a good spot where they can tend to it even minimally. If you're not serious about growing them and getting answers about how to grow it why bother posting? Water is one of the basic elements, and growing stealthy is another element but you do not want to believe in that. Basically you're asking people here how to waste seeds which is not what a lot of people here are about.
Edit: There are also other forum sub-sections for discussing philosophy etc. so from now on I will refrain from posting anything unrelated to growing outdoors in this topic.
Anyways, to bring this back to the topic of growing.... plants need water. It will either die from being too dry if it doesn't get any or have very limited growth. Anyone who is serious about growing would put it in a good spot where they can tend to it even minimally. If you're not serious about growing them and getting answers about how to grow it why bother posting? Water is one of the basic elements, and growing stealthy is another element but you do not want to believe in that. Basically you're asking people here how to waste seeds which is not what a lot of people here are about.
Edit: There are also other forum sub-sections for discussing philosophy etc. so from now on I will refrain from posting anything unrelated to growing outdoors in this topic.
asaph
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alright. just to make one thing clear: I do grow. indoors, good genetics, it's my first serious round so a bit low, but still i'm hoping for 5 zips at least. i love growing and i give my plants the best care i can provide. other than that, they sell here a lot of skank weed, shwag, whatever you call it, real bad stuff (gets you high nicely though) that sells cheap and comes full with bagseed. so we're not talking about wasting anything, my first plant was from these seeds, but i would never grow it again, it's kind of a ruderalis, pretty weak. other than that, people sometimes grow hermies and get seeded crops, those can also be used for this purpose, as most growers prefer not to use those for growing. So you see it's not that I don't believe in growing for yield and personal harvest, I even thank the people who sell weed, and I don't think my idea here is somehow contradictory.
since we have a nice and warm and sunny winter, with rain sometimes, I think maybe I should plant then, and hope that the winter is rainy. plants will flower right away and stay short but can give good buds. it will require germinating indoors, but that's not so bad actually, i don't have to actually root them. another option is spring time, near the river, in hopes that the soil remains wet there throughout the very dry summer.
and i'm actually up for off-topic debating, but it's also good to focus on the original question.
LBH
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I have and do, that's how we got our state to be legal, we all stood up!! I understand you don't live in America and I'm not putting you're opinion or your country down, just want to make sure that's clear. I am currently VERY active here with our local law enforcement, the development of our dispensary program and the lobbying for further legislature.
asaph
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total like. but as you understand, it's not that easy for me. even though we have mmj, the bastards took away the patients' grow licenses, and now only a few lucky guys who made a deal with them can grow commercially. which is something i would love to do, but i would still want everybody to grow their own.
ziggittyzag420
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go for it bro! fight the power man! lol germ those seeds on whatever public piece of land you can find,bring MJ back to the dirt in mother earth,where she belongs
Sorry if my last post seemed a little rude, but I just didn't really understand why you would ask if a plant can be grown in a spot with no water and no maintenance when you know that plants need it.
If you want someone else to water it find a maintained park or something and see if they notice, haha.
Anyways, it's your grow and your seeds and if you don't want the results plant them some where else... or you could always give it to someone else. If only there was a seed exchange where growers could swap strains.
If you want someone else to water it find a maintained park or something and see if they notice, haha.
Anyways, it's your grow and your seeds and if you don't want the results plant them some where else... or you could always give it to someone else. If only there was a seed exchange where growers could swap strains.
asaph
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you see the thing is, marijuana is a weed. as a weed, it should be able to grow anywhere (that has some water), without human interference. our craziness for the drug and the war on drugs have sent us to closets and high-tech equipment, but it's actually a plant that grows in nature without human interference.
so it's not so crazy that i am wanting to have it grow naturally. the only crazy thing is that in my country it doesn't rain at all for 6 out of 12 months, which makes even weed impossible to grow here. but still I think there are ways.
I understand you guys think I'm crazy but try actually reading what I say. these are not seeds that anyone would grow with. they produce SKANK weed.
so it's not so crazy that i am wanting to have it grow naturally. the only crazy thing is that in my country it doesn't rain at all for 6 out of 12 months, which makes even weed impossible to grow here. but still I think there are ways.
I understand you guys think I'm crazy but try actually reading what I say. these are not seeds that anyone would grow with. they produce SKANK weed.
sk'mo
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I think I'll come back to this thread later, since I don't have time to type up a sufficient reply right now.
But, I will say this:
A demonstration must clearly demonstrate your point.
Guerrilla growing as a whole is environmentally damaging and not a very good way to get people on your side.
But, I will say this:
A demonstration must clearly demonstrate your point.
Guerrilla growing as a whole is environmentally damaging and not a very good way to get people on your side.
sk'mo
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Guerrilla growing involves digging and/or clearing natural areas, sometimes in protected wilderness zones. Growers may change the soil structure of an area to better meet the requirements of their plants. Fertilizers upset the natural nutrient and pH balances of the soil and surrounding area. The use of pesticides kills insects and other organisms.
How does your demonstration communicate the point you are trying to make?
If the public or police happen across your 'protest grow', how are they to know what you are trying to say? What separates it from a random plant in a random place?
How does your demonstration communicate the point you are trying to make?
If the public or police happen across your 'protest grow', how are they to know what you are trying to say? What separates it from a random plant in a random place?
ziggittyzag420
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he's protesting symbolically,he's just trying to populate an area with some cannabis,your making this more complicated than it is,just let asaph grow some pot
,obviously he knows the consequences and his own circumstances,let him do his thing
ziggittyzag420
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my bad,didnt mean to direct that at you(you had the closest post to quote),this whole thread everyones been riding on the o.p about how people might not portray it as a demonstration and just some guerrilla grow..who cares what its portrayed as,its not on anyones property,hes not growing it for smoke,hes just starting a small (pot) population next to a river,that hopefully seeds and spreads around the area