Can I grow with this?

lvlone said:

What if I tossed in a 105wat 5000k cfl with the other bulbs? Think I could grow them full size?

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Depends on what you mean by full size. I pulled 2 oz off my little plant in a 3 gallon smart pot, but I barely vegged it at all and didn't do any canopy management, if you are patient and do some training I'm sure you could get them quite a bit bigger than that. But probably won't be able to get them up into the pounds area, just my thoughts

lvlone said:

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Or a 150watt hps light.

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I would imagine that a 150w HPS + CFL for supplemental could get em pretty big but I don't have experience with small HPS like that so I wouldn't know for sure.

Ace Yonder said:

Depends on what you mean by full size. I pulled 2 oz off my little plant in a 3 gallon smart pot, but I barely vegged it at all and didn't do any canopy management, if you are patient and do some training I'm sure you could get them quite a bit bigger than that. But probably won't be able to get them up into the pounds area, just my thoughts

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Ok, so let's say 2 plants with 5 23 watt cfls each, and a 105 watt cfl in between them I could see around 2 oz with training in a 5 foot tall 2 deep and 3.5 wide with reflection Cab?

lvlone said:

Ok, so let's say 2 plants with 5 23 watt cfls each, and a 105 watt cfl in between them I could see around 2 oz with training in a 5 foot tall 2 deep and 3.5 wide with reflection Cab?

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Seems totally doable to me

a 150w hps put in for flower along with the cfls would be pretty good as the cfls you have are a bit blue for flowering

I`d run 13 hours of cfl with 12 hours of hps giving the plants 30 mins of just cfl at the start and end of their day, that will reduce the level of stretch you get from the hps as well as allow the full spectrum light of the cfl to influence the plants more

you could just as easy run the cfls for 12 hours and the hps for 10 or 11 hours also you`ll save a bit of electric too

Ill let the genetics dep at TH seeds know about this sir. I shall! Lol. yes that 6 day old autoflower is sick! you got a good eye man! But instead of making personal attacks. Im going to take the high road, stay on topic. Can you do that much?

We all have shit plants, and nice ones. Your obviously young or nieve, making personal attacks. Here, shes perty... guess im not so bad huh..

THE KONASSURE said:

a 150w hps put in for flower along with the cfls would be pretty good as the cfls you have are a bit blue for flowering

I`d run 13 hours of cfl with 12 hours of hps giving the plants 30 mins of just cfl at the start and end of their day, that will reduce the level of stretch you get from the hps as well as allow the full spectrum light of the cfl to influence the plants more

you could just as easy run the cfls for 12 hours and the hps for 10 or 11 hours also you`ll save a bit of electric too

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Best solution thus far

pickpocket33 said:

Then use an hps. Its like saying, I like fucking women, but, I got this dude im gonna nail instead? Save up for what will more then double your yields. 150w hps is like 80 bucks uysed... theirs no excuse.

Andim not knocking your style man, I started with cfl, and changed to hps in a week... just saying. Save money... I run a HPS/MH/LED system at about 2000w now. I don't see a point in really going over 600 for 85% of people.. I could be wrroronnggg

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Your wrong. 150 HPS are $60 new for cheap one and 80 new for decent. Can get 250 watt for 110-120. New. Used all are half those prices. Seen 150 on Craigslist for $20.
But the rest you said was ok......

OK! OMG. . so HID is cheap as shit. Then their is zero excuse to grow with cfls and if you do its because your going stealth and yield crap anyway or you are I don't know. I hate to say stupid but if the shoe fits.

***Please note I am extremely upset and grouchy about my incredibly small penis.

pickpocket33 said:

Ill let the genetics dep at TH seeds know about this sir. I shall! Lol. yes that 6 day old autoflower is sick! you got a good eye man! But instead of making personal attacks. Im going to take the high road, stay on topic. Can you do that much?

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Then maybe you should stop making snarky comments about what everyone else says. Your growing skills do not back up your attitude of superiority, lets not forget that you have been doing this for less than a year, your first grow started in march of this year (And we have yet to see ANY harvested product, BTW, have you even HAD a harvest yet? Or are you still struggling to make it there?) and now you think you know enough to talk to everyone like you're some guru who has 30+ grows under his belt? If someone has ever needed to be put in their place, it's you. Oh wait, I shouldn't be mean to you, you'll just go running to the mods so they can end another fight that YOU started. (https://www.rollitup.org/t/is-this-the-grouchiest-angry-group-of-people-around-or-what.852874/)

As for staying on topic, I, unlike you, continue to offer advice to the OP, not just regurgitate the same ignorant garbage, unlike someone else who keeps engaging me in argument rather than add anything constructive to the discussion.

pickpocket33 said:

OK! OMG. . so HID is cheap as shit. Then their is zero excuse to grow with cfls and if you do its because your going stealth and yield crap anyway or you are I don't know. I hate to say stupid but if the shoe fits.

***Please note I am extremely upset and grouchy about my incredibly small penis.

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So I could go get one 150 watt and replace everything with that?

Cannasutraorganics said:

Your wrong. 150 HPS are $60 new for cheap one and 80 new for decent. Can get 250 watt for 110-120. New. Used all are half those prices. Seen 150 on Craigslist for $20.
But the rest you said was ok......

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So if I picked up a 150 would I be ok for a cab grow in soil? I was just doing a green sea with 2 plants, more if you think I could get away with it?

lvlone said:

So if I picked up a 150 would I be ok for a cab grow in soil? I was just doing a green sea with 2 plants, more if you think I could get away with it?

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Yes. I've grown many clones under them. Friends have budded with decent results. 2'x2'.

lvlone said:

Ok, so let's say 2 plants with 5 23 watt cfls each, and a 105 watt cfl in between them I could see around 2 oz with training in a 5 foot tall 2 deep and 3.5 wide with reflection Cab?

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I grow with Sixteen 23w CFLs and nothing else. 368w of good-ole shitty CFL light.

I average 18g per plant and pull a qp per month.

I have a shitty tent, with shitty lights and no shitty reflectors. You can do way better than 2oz depending on how long you want to veg. I don't veg very long and I grow a pure OG strain that looks like a lanky-ass corndog. I am 100% sure that if you have a green thumb you can do better than 2oz if you do some research, plan it out, and veg your plants a little longer.

Edit to add: I get a qp off six or seven plants at a time. But since I am averaging right over a 1/2 ounce per plant and I'm growing a really low yielder... I am sure that more than 2oz is more than doable for you off of two plants if you veg them out and bulk them up a little.

TheYokel said:

I grow with Sixteen 23w CFLs and nothing else. 368w of good-ole shitty CFL light.

I average 18g per plant and pull a qp per month.

I have a shitty tent, with shitty lights and no shitty reflectors. You can do way better than 2oz depending on how long you want to veg. I don't veg very long and I grow a pure OG strain that looks like a lanky-ass corndog. I am 100% sure that if you have a green thumb you can do better than 2oz if you do some research, plan it out, and veg your plants a little longer.

Edit to add: I get a qp off six or seven plants at a time. But since I am averaging right over a 1/2 ounce per plant and I'm growing a really low yielder... I am sure that more than 2oz is more than doable for you off of two plants if you veg them out and bulk them up a little.

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I ended up with 9 23watt 6500k, and 2 55watt 2500k. Watcha think? The plant in the left is re covering from low nitro I think, it should turn around.

lvlone said:

I ended up with 9 23watt 6500k, and 2 55watt 2500k. Watcha think? The plant in the left is re covering from low nitro I think, it should turn around.

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Nice! Only thing I might change is turning the 55w lights 90 degrees and putting it in between them so that instead of having plants on one side and the wall on the other, it has plants on both sides, less light loss that way, but that's just my first thought. I like it!

Ace Yonder said:

I'm gonna second Yokel's calling this statement bullshit, this screams of someone who's never done it before.
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Just gotta say what a great pic!! The plant looks gorgeous & u can well see the denseness of the lovely glittering crystalness - but I mainly love that u got all the cfl spiral reflections on the Mylar in the background! Looks cool!

A true testament to the power of cfl's!

Ace Yonder said:

Nice! Only thing I might change is turning the 55w lights 90 degrees and putting it in between them so that instead of having plants on one side and the wall on the other, it has plants on both sides, less light loss that way, but that's just my first thought. I like it!

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I was thinking about doing that and removing the reflectors.

TheYokel said:

I grow with Sixteen 23w CFLs and nothing else. 368w of good-ole shitty CFL light.

I average 18g per plant and pull a qp per month.

I have a shitty tent, with shitty lights and no shitty reflectors.

Edit to add: I get a qp off six or seven plants at a time. But since I am averaging right over a 1/2 ounce per plant and I'm growing a really low yielder... I am sure that more than 2oz is more than doable for you off of two plants if you veg them out and bulk them up a little.

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