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Diskokobaja

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Your pic right here^
I would say those plants are hungry, but at the stage of buds they look to be at, they are yellowing perfectly actually. Good job.
From left to right first two girls are auto sharks, i will feed them one more time and then its 2 weeks of water, and last girl on right is fresh candy,
She is on only water regime and going down in about 10 days.. My pics are little crappy from chinese celly..
 

chemphlegm

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I didn't quite understand you here, are you saying looking at that pic you think the plants are finished?
I think they are still in full flower mode not close to ready.
nope, looking at the strain, the time its flowered, and its abuse, I'd say this plant is as finished as its going to get. its past its due date, is jammed with unusable carbs and is under ill light with likely ph issues often. I've grown that same plant and it has frost in only a few weeks after seeding and finishes early compared to other auto's, earlier than this one even every time.
 

chemphlegm

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Molasses substances do not get used in 2 seconds and then done, you should not be feeding with every single clean watering. It will build up. the sugars will grow bacteria so fast and to huge levels, you can actually fuck up the available root oxygen down there with the huge population of bacteria removing the o2 for their own purposes, and roots suffer. Also as the bacteria take over ph can shift in the medium and fungi will be less and less and fungi are our real workers down there in the soil. You don't want to use too much molasses, too often. Just advice. Do what you want of course. :D

we must go the same stupid school?

I'll add molasses should never be added to indoor containers. If one must succumb to ones believed hype then one should use a drop or two in a five gallon bucket to feed a bubbling tea, thats it. watering with molasses at every feeding is too much too often and plain stupid, sorry, but maybe I am too?:P
 

chemphlegm

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klassman dellman potground H

@chemphlegm first of all congratulation to you sir, you mannage to pick my nerv... why mollases?? are u serious? it saves me money for carboload/bud cany and Obvous until now cal magh supp.. That like 60˘$ saving.. Why molasses?
Nutrition Facts
Molasses
Amount Per 100 grams

Calories 290
% Daily Value*
Total Fat 0.1 g 0%
Saturated fat 0 g 0%
Polyunsaturated fat 0.1 g
Monounsaturated fat 0 g
Cholesterol 0 mg 0%
Sodium 37 mg 1%
Potassium 1,464 mg 41%
Total Carbohydrate 75 g 25%
Dietary fiber 0 g 0%
Sugar 75 g
Protein 0 g 0%
Vitamin A 0% Vitamin C 0%
Calcium 20% Iron 26%
Vitamin D 0% Vitamin B-6 35%
Vitamin B-12 0% Magnesium 60%



Or we are all dumb?? https://www.zamnesia.com/blog-molasses-and-cannabis-taking-your-soil-to-the-next-level-n352
https://cannabisgrowing.blog/2016/07/09/molasses-as-marijuana-fertilizer-organic-fertilizer-tricks-for-your-grow/

And yes that plant was under 100w cob diy led...divide that on 5 led bins.... So that is the reason she was so behind..

Can at least anybody tell me how to check if those are root aphids/gnats fault=?
my other girls.. same nutes same water same molasses..

I'm a stupid grower.......yet I'm not the one with a tent full of plants not showing one bit of frost in late flowering dumping food in my soil because I think it sweetens my bud and wondering why a 6 week auto isnt even near done in 8 weeks...mmmmkkkk

good luck, no offense intended
 

Johnei

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nope, looking at the strain, the time its flowered, and its abuse, I'd say this plant is as finished as its going to get. its past its due date, is jammed with unusable carbs and is under ill light with likely ph issues often. I've grown that same plant and it has frost in only a few weeks after seeding and finishes early compared to other auto's, earlier than this one even every time.
You know better than me if you grew her then. By the eye doesn't look ready like it has chance to throw out new layer of calyxes still, but I hear you man. The way the red hairs are, it's like fried from the inside out finishing itself.
 

chemphlegm

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You know better than me if you grew her then. By the eye doesn't look ready like it has chance to throw out new layer of calyxes still, but I hear you man. The way the red hairs are, it's like fried from the inside out finishing itself.
google the strain, people harvesting a week or two earlier than op. It certainly does not look finished, although it shoul dbe way further along than it is at8 weeks.
it will throw new calyx out, as soon as somebody pours pk or the like in there, if the issue has been fixed first, and will just be another ill plant when its harvested, not quite expressed enough. otherwise it sits stagnant as it is. it may be locked up, but this late in flower it wont matter, fixing this one now is futile, op will see., or maybe op will like that weed hopefully.
 

Diskokobaja

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I'm a stupid grower.......yet I'm not the one with a tent full of plants not showing one bit of frost in late flowering dumping food in my soil because I think it sweetens my bud and wondering why a 6 week auto isnt even near done in 8 weeks...mmmmkkkk

good luck, no offense intended


I really caNT understand need of multiple insulting posts..you could done that in just one post.. Funny how I couldnt find one fck grow of this sttrains... so please link me those 6week gharvest times of this plants.. I never said that Im expert, grower or anything similar..
Youre The smartest the best grower and all..For me this topic is Closed...
i will try to find my answers elswere..Onforums where people try to help not beeing SMARTASS..

And yes i would like to see your frosty plants on 33+c temps in tent...
 

chemphlegm

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I really caNT understand need of multiple insulting posts..you could done that in just one post.. Funny how I couldnt find one fck grow of this sttrains... so please link me those 6week gharvest times of this plants.. I never said that Im expert, grower or anything similar..
Youre The smartest the best grower and all..For me this topic is Closed...
i will try to find my answers elswere..Onforums where people try to help not beeing SMARTASS..

And yes i would like to see your frosty plants on 33+c temps in tent...

exactly ! ill fed plants in ill controlled space. you need to cool the area, feed the soil, provide some good light
and relax. it really is easy with the right controls, not skill at all, just directions on a package.
 

Diskokobaja

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Its hard to recognise as true helpfull advice from someone who has his profile locked, who replays with downing you,without any real arguments... I try my best, and when someone bash you without anY reel helpfull advice (nobody from ya all didnt say why its not some kindd of insect caused simptom) and you live illegal state, had trouble with cops etc etc etc, you take their downing really to your heart.. I 'm trying my best, in one hand for me its greats succes that this girls survived until now considering my enviroment , but again I always aiming to best possible results that I can get.. Plant was under some 2530 and 2540 cree cobs125w, last 10 days she is under 3500k 1212 citizens (200w),and those 3on oics are under 3070cree 3000k(200w)..I even threw in ac unit in tent room but with very little success.. And you still havent link me those frosty auto shark grows... Thank you once again for ruining my day... I know O should tuffen up, bit Its really hard when someone take really big DumP on your effort! not on results ,but on effort!
 

Johnei

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With all the molasses you feed, you probably do have insects, yes, you have insects.

If you will read back you will see I tried to help you. I told you exactly what to do.
Or you can cry a ittle more from an argument with a stranger on the internet...
 

Los Reefersaurus

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My thoughts from the cheap seats is anaerobic bacteria has fucked with your dirt, and now your fungus and Bactrias are out of wack. I recommend and awsome product made by Satan himself Bayer. Natria it is just an aggressive form of Bacillus subtilis , that just eats all the nasties. Its cheap and it is great stuff.
 

Johnei

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Who knows man.. these things happen, roots growing a different way, certain corner of room, light, air, genetic disposition that 1 out of a certain amount always like that... ?? I don't know
 

Diskokobaja

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Im asking for my next grow... i wanna avoid that kind of things.. If i throw out molasses then i need calmag again.. I will try for next grow adding molasses every other watering ....
 

Buba Blend

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@Johnei And I liked your comment,And I event wrote that I will be skipping molasses.. But my question remains why only this one?? @Los Reefersaurus thank you very much sir!!
Seeds are like brothers and sisters all different with different demands. If you started with clones they would probably be more similar in symptoms. It is possible the others are feeling the pain but haven't expressed it yet.
 

Diskokobaja

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What are i suggesting for next grow?? My seedling are 10 days old.. They had also rought stArt,but they picking up slowly..
I m always open to learn about growing. I smoke really heavy and I fall in love with this hobby,so I wanna learn to grow best weed that is possible..
 
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im4satori

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Its auto shark, in her 8 week of life from seed.. Only this girl si showing problmes

I'm using

AN ph perfect nutes, and black strip molasses .. I give them molasses on wateriong days.

I
feed,water, feed water.. On watering days I lower my ph with lime acid, never had any issues..

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oops sorry about that thought got the timing off thought youd said eight weeks of flower but you clearly didn'tbongsmilie

how do the roots look...any sign of root rot... how much molasses per gallon are you using.. evey other so that's what about 1x per week?

you maybe over doing it on the molasses but I don't think that's his issue

I think theres something off in his nutes could be over feeding and lacking

post pics of the % amounts listed on each bottle and tell us how your mixing it
 

Buba Blend

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What are i suggesting for next grow?? My seedling are 10 days old.. They had also rought stArt,but they picking up slowly..
I m always open to learn about growing. I smoke really heavy and I fall in love with this hobby,so I wamna learn to grow best weed that is possible..
I love growing with seeds. I like all the different phenos that come out from seeds. Professionals mostly use clones. Not sure what your next move is. Just wanted to help with your question as to why only that one plant. Because seeds have different strengths and weaknesses like brothers and sisters. The one showing the problems was probably weaker than the others.
 

Diskokobaja

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oops sorry about that thought got the timing off thought youd said eight weeks of flower but you clearly didn'tbongsmilie

how do the roots look...any sign of root rot... how much molasses per gallon are you using.. evey other so that's what about 1x per week?

you maybe over doing it on the molasses but I don't think that's his issue

I think theres something off in his nutes could be over feeding and lacking

post pics of the % amounts listed on each bottle and tell us how your mixing it

It's all good.. I feed them by this chart.. jkk.jpg
But i never went on full doses with main nutes (A/B) i give them 33ml -.--Other nutes I go full strenght..
Every third day I give them water or nutes.. So it basicly 2x per week.. one nutes other water/molasses..
I'm using Air pots and frenkly i cant see rots on bottom, and i dont have balls to pull her out of pot, but If you suggest that i will do that.. I dont know does it matter but i noticed on 3 girls like knot of stem/roots? where main stem going in soil.. I calculated one tee spoon on 5 gal of water( like they say everywhere) So in my calculation that is 20ml of molasses per 11l of water..
I let my trap water sits minimum 12hrs with airstones inside her, and before feeding i add my nutes.. If its molasses /water time I lower PH with lime acid..If its nutes I dont do shit coz its PH perfect line of nutes...
 

im4satori

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man Im sorry I cant make heads or tales of all that

is the part A

3-0-0

and part B

1-2-6

or post pics of the % info listed on each of the bottles which would be the best option!
 
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