Cal/Mag deficiency???

Bushbaby11

Bushbaby11

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The set up is 27 plants in 3.8L rhizo (fabric) pots.

1 x 600w & 1 x 660w dual spectrum hid lights
1 x 1150w dual spectrum gavita pro de

All been drip fed from irrigation system

Soil is biobizz allmix

Was using biobizz fishmix (instead of their grow) with added calmag due to deficiency, switched to shogun terra and rock resinator for flower and to avoid the drippers been clogged by the organic nutes

1 exhale co2 bag

2 fans blowing the air around

Plants have been vegged for 3.5/4 weeks and are now 4 weeks into flower

This problem has appeared rapidly over 2/3 days, i foliar fed with biobizz calmag (organic) as this was the only calmag i had at the time, i have since added shogun calmag to my nute res to help solve the problem but im guessing since im in soil it'll take longer to break the nutes down ready for plants (i usually grow dwc/hydro) 1st time with soil LOL


Is it calmag or could it be something else...
Not all plants are affected though
 

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Bushbaby11

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Nixs said:
I don't see cal\mag issue, more like N issue
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Just looking online and you could be right, surely the flower nutes would have enough N to keep them going though?

I just add some grow nutes in res to fix this issue?
 
Nixs

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I have no experience with shogun Terra, and I did a quick search to see what N-P-K was it, I found nothing.
 
Bushbaby11

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Nixs said:
I have no experience with shogun Terra, and I did a quick search to see what N-P-K was it, I found nothing.
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Yeah i couldn't find anything online either, nowhere near my spot either so will have to wait until tomorrow, appreciate the help
 
Rurumo

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I tried to look up those Shogun nutrients too....crazy how little info they provide, no ingredients, no label pics, no basic NPK info. You are definitely underfeeding, they need more nitrogen fast, just don't overdo it. I would look into the good 2 part dry nutrients in the future. Are you in the UK? Shogun users always seem to be in the UK. I don't think you guys can get Jack's or Megacrop easily, so Athena is probably your best bet, though they are criminally overpriced.
 
Bushbaby11

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Rurumo said:
I tried to look up those Shogun nutrients too....crazy how little info they provide, no ingredients, no label pics, no basic NPK info. You are definitely underfeeding, they need more nitrogen fast, just don't overdo it. I would look into the good 2 part dry nutrients in the future. Are you in the UK? Shogun users always seem to be in the UK. I don't think you guys can get Jack's or Megacrop easily, so Athena is probably your best bet, though they are criminally overpriced.
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Yeah uk based pal, i always run shogun without any issues at all, i think my problem this time is i didn't continue to use the grow nutes after the 12/12 switch, i usually continue to use grow nutes for a week or 2 but this time i literally just went straight to bloom nutes at switch. If i add some grow will that sort the nitrogen deficiency?
 
visajoe1

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Bushbaby11 said:
The set up is 27 plants in 3.8L rhizo (fabric) pots.

1 x 600w & 1 x 660w dual spectrum hid lights
1 x 1150w dual spectrum gavita pro de

All been drip fed from irrigation system

Soil is biobizz allmix

Was using biobizz fishmix (instead of their grow) with added calmag due to deficiency, switched to shogun terra and rock resinator for flower and to avoid the drippers been clogged by the organic nutes

1 exhale co2 bag

2 fans blowing the air around

Plants have been vegged for 3.5/4 weeks and are now 4 weeks into flower

This problem has appeared rapidly over 2/3 days, i foliar fed with biobizz calmag (organic) as this was the only calmag i had at the time, i have since added shogun calmag to my nute res to help solve the problem but im guessing since im in soil it'll take longer to break the nutes down ready for plants (i usually grow dwc/hydro) 1st time with soil LOL


Is it calmag or could it be something else...
Not all plants are affected though
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We dont need Calmag in soil my guy unless using RO, and if using RO also stop, unless tap is unusable.

All I see is hungry plants, they ate everything in the soil.

Shogun Bloom is 4-2-6 and Rock Resinator is 0-7-8. P is a little low with this combo, but will get it done.

When soil is dry for water/feed, give her a full strength feed around 3ec with plenty of runoff. Should see improvement in 24hrs. Feed 1.5-2.5ec the rest of the grow, with runoff, tapering at the end. Best of luck!
 
Bushbaby11

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visajoe1 said:
We dont need Calmag in soil my guy unless using RO, and if using RO also stop, unless tap is unusable.

All I see is hungry plants, they ate everything in the soil.

Shogun Bloom is 4-2-6 and Rock Resinator is 0-7-8. P is a little low with this combo, but will get it done.

When soil is dry for water/feed, give her a full strength feed around 3ec with plenty of runoff. Should see improvement in 24hrs. Feed 1.5-2.5ec the rest of the grow, with runoff, tapering at the end. Best of luck!
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Thankyou! Will blast some shogun terra grow in there to add the nitrogen
 
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