Breaker keeps tripping, how to allow more power use...

so basically what was done is an extension cord was brought from an outlet on the outside of the house and into the shed just for the portable ac only. We were testing it today with two 600 watt hps lights, two 115 watt inline fans, three 25 watt circulation fans, and also the sheds own fluorescent lights on. The ac went on the extension cord and everything ran for a long time and never tripped.
 
so basically what was done is an extension cord was brought from an outlet on the outside of the house and into the shed just for the portable ac only. We were testing it today with two 600 watt hps lights, two 115 watt inline fans, three 25 watt circulation fans, and also the sheds own fluorescent lights on. The ac went on the extension cord and everything ran for a long time and never tripped.

Nice, now since your using a extension cord, when it's on for awhile feel the cord to see if it's warm.. If it is you need to invest in a thicker extension cord sometime.
 
grab power from a different source in the house. do not change that breaker. I can guarantee you will burn your house down. if it keeps tripping it. chance fire. you should hire an electrician in wire it 220 to your ballasts. and one breaker dedicated to you ac. mine has 15 breakers for the room I added . each ac unit has there own breaker. 6 ballasts running 600 watts 220v / per breaker. so on. be smart. those wires in the wall do and will heat up the standard wire size is 14 gage in the wall not made to pull more then 15 amps . it may cost you 150 to 200 bucks. to run the room correct for a 220 breaker. but its a lot better then burning down a house. worst case get a 14 gage extension cord. this is a shit way bull shit. no money bull shit grow. run the cord to a different room. chances are that room will be ran off a different breaker. but be smart. major rule only the ac runs off one out let own breaker.

That sounds like a weird way to setup the electrical. Not saying its wrong. How do you time all of those lights? Individual timers?

Hopefully your outdoor outlet is gfci
 
After reading all the post on this thread (lots of them pure B.S.) my final advice is:

If you solved your problem, good for you.

If you ever come across electrical problems related to growing the best and safest thing is to take basic electric theory course, OR quit growing.

No shit my friends, hiring an electrician may get you busted, unless he is your partner. "Burning your house down" is a possibility if you use thin wires like 16 or 18 gauge hooked up to 20A or 25 A circuit breaker.

Taking the course will be cheaper than busting, perhaps electrician fees, and you can fire an electrician for your LIFETIME ! LOL
 
Sorry if I'm taking this slightly off topic.. but I find this all interesting. I'm from the UK. Your breaker boxes are the same as our RCD consumer units I'm guessing??

I've never heard of someone overloading their consumer unit over here? Is this because you run half voltage but double the amps making it easier to overload then it would be on UKs double voltage but half ampage?? Genuinely interested..


am also interested, can anyone answer this??
 
Yes, our breaker/fuse panels are the same as your RCD consumer units, and yes, our electricity is a bit different. We run 120v on most household items, requiring twice the amps as you do over a single pole. To further, we require a hot and neutral wire. Because we don't have two fluctuating poles (on most circuits), the return doesn't go over a 2nd hot line; it is returned via a cold neutral instead.

A typical circuit has one hot, one insulated neutral and a bare ground. Within the breaker panel, the neutral is then essentially connected to ground. This *must* be done in the panel though. All neutral has to return ungrounded and unbroken right to the panel. You're not allowed to 'cheat' and just dump it into ground anywhere else in the system.

Typically, in a residence, only a couple of items run 220/240 and split the current across two phases... the stove and the clothes dryer. Normally like in the U.K., a 240v circuit (2-phase) doesn't require a neutral, but since the motor and any lights etc in a dryer still run at 120v, the 120 is pulled off of only one of the two hot poles, then returned through the neutral, exactly like in a wall outlet. The heating elements use the 240 2-phase, and does not use the neutral.

As far as OP, it is possible that the cable run is too long for the gauge of the wires, and what you have in the shed is trying too hard to pull electricity over that leg. You'd be able to test this by grabbing an "amp clamp" from your local hardware store.

In Canada, a book called "Electrical Code Simplified" can be bought at any decent hardware store. It explains the vast majority of what you'll experience in a residence in an easy-to-understand way. Worth picking up for anyone designing grow rooms.

...and one last thing. The 80% max circuit rule is calculated as such:

120v x 15A x 0.8(%) = 1440w

You should never run a circuit continuously past the 80% rule regardless of how far you are away from the panel.

-spek
 
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