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akhiymjames

akhiymjames

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Not gonna get a reply from Bonza about that situation. It's sad really cus they should address how two people were able to purchase the same two beans and both orders shipped. It's crazy but like many have said cant get any of my business no matter how many legit seeds someone may have got. Somebody between Al and Amos will get fucked or both will. It's sad cus u preying on people who are looking for something rare and it shouldn't be like this. Besides anyways they talk about how they come into rare beans but what distributor sells only two beans to a bank? How would you verify the legitimacy of the beans if they aren't breeders pack of a whole pack? Bonza=joke
 
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Amos Otis

Amos Otis

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Brian Savage said:
Plain and simple, if you aren't the breeder handing me a pack personally, I don't want to purchase loose seeds.
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It's not w/o risk, certainly. I've bought many loose beans, ran many, and never once thought that I'd received a phony. Most have been spot on, or very close to the descriptions. Despite the Bonza experience, I wouldn't hesitate to order loose beans from 'tude/Choice, TSSC, or MWS.

akhiymjames said:
Somebody between Al and Amos will get fucked or both will.
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Maybe......maybe not. Somebody with much more space to pop beans than I, will be willing to take a chance on these possibly 'lost treasures', and it might only cost them some....oh, I dunno....a couple of beans from their 'cannot possibly get to' storage tin. :cool: In the meantime, I'll pop a couple of the companion Lotus Larry's [ aka more Bonza! ] after the goji project, to see if there is any resemblance to a SL plant.
 
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althor

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kmog33 said:
Using weak anything in a cross is a bad plan. Male or female you should look for traits you want. Using weak plants so that one doesn't dominate isn't a good idea, you're just passing on shit genetics. You have to find a strong male that melds into your crosses well. Take bodhi for instance, do you think his appy or hp dads are weak in any way? Because they are not lol.
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Well, once again we get into one of those "unproven" things.
I have witnessed weak males have great offspring many many many times and I have witnessed really strong, what would seem great males put off disappoining offspring. Which is why, once again, I will stick with the only proven method of picking a male which is to judge it solely by it's offspring. It takes time, but it is worth it if you want to create top-notch crosses.
 
D_Urbmon

D_Urbmon

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Brian Savage said:
Breeder packs or bust for me. There is way too much bullshit and way too many greasy people in this industry for me to 'have good faith' or trust. Plain and simple, if you aren't the breeder handing me a pack personally, I don't want to purchase loose seeds.
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you'd be surprised how well breeder packs can be counterfeited.


I got bit by a local head shop for some fake feminized TGA beans when I started buying seeds. Packaging looked exactly like the pics I see packaging with exception of being feminized. I got a legit TGA pack at a later date and the counterfeiters even used the EXACT same vial TGA uses.

Clearly this was before I started to really do my research.


and breeer steves sandy panties IG post last year had me even more worried about big box seedbanks. I feel much safer with folks that obtain their beans directly from the breeders. Like Shoe, or Lama or GLG or SVoC. Or breeder direct always whenever I have the option. part of why I love Dynasty and PSBC so much.
 
DoctorFrost

DoctorFrost

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Madagascar seems to like Bonza a great deal, but still hasn't addressed the issues we have seen here. If Bonza would have just got on here and said something.. heck anything, it would have went a long way. But just responding to multiple e-mails saying they will send someone here, then completely ignoring us isn't going to win them any love from me. It is very obvious to me that they are shady or else they would have got on here and explained the situation. Chances are you will get your beans if you order from them, and they will probably be right. But just keep an eye out because I wouldn't be surprised if they try slipping one over on ya. I am glad the word is getting out, it should be spread to all forums. Let Bonza actually loose some business over this, they brought it on themselves.

I still think both of you will get legit beans. And that they only limited it to 2 beans because they knew they could get 6 people to order just off one pack of Bodhi's seeds. They just didn't want to openly state that they were limiting orders to 2 seeds to draw in business. Could be wrong, I just see it as the most likely scenario and one that would make sense in a business setting without swapping seeds for fakes.
 
Madagascar

Madagascar

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DoctorFrost said:
Madagascar seems to like Bonza a great deal, but still hasn't addressed the issues we have seen here. If Bonza would have just got on here and said something.. heck anything, it would have went a long way. But just responding to multiple e-mails saying they will send someone here, then completely ignoring us isn't going to win them any love from me. It is very obvious to me that they are shady or else they would have got on here and explained the situation. Chances are you will get your beans if you order from them, and they will probably be right. But just keep an eye out because I wouldn't be surprised if they try slipping one over on ya. I am glad the word is getting out, it should be spread to all forums. Let Bonza actually loose some business over this, they brought it on themselves.

I still think both of you will get legit beans. And that they only limited it to 2 beans because they knew they could get 6 people to order just off one pack of Bodhi's seeds. They just didn't want to openly state that they were limiting orders to 2 seeds to draw in business. Could be wrong, I just see it as the most likely scenario and one that would make sense in a business setting without swapping seeds for fakes.
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Bonza is notorious for not answering posts send them a DM if you didn't already. Seen multiple ones, I'm only speaking on my experience I'm pissed for u guys lol
I wouldn't necessary blame the company for someone that didn't answer they probably don't give 2 shits.
I haven't seen how long they've been waiting but my order took 2.5 weeks it was around Christmas time I did the shipping with tracking so I was able to see when they dropped the package of in EU and when it got to customs and when it got past.
 
Vnsmkr

Vnsmkr

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akhiymjames said:
Not gonna get a reply from Bonza about that situation. It's sad really cus they should address how two people were able to purchase the same two beans and both orders shipped. It's crazy but like many have said cant get any of my business no matter how many legit seeds someone may have got. Somebody between Al and Amos will get fucked or both will. It's sad cus u preying on people who are looking for something rare and it shouldn't be like this. Besides anyways they talk about how they come into rare beans but what distributor sells only two beans to a bank? How would you verify the legitimacy of the beans if they aren't breeders pack of a whole pack? Bonza=joke
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pfffffff ha ha ha ha ha, 2 beans sold, wtf. Sounds like a bit of money grubbing whores to me. Anyway, plenty places to get true genetics from and this doesnt sound like 1 to me, or not worth my time way over here.....
 
kmog33

kmog33

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althor said:
Well, once again we get into one of those "unproven" things.
I have witnessed weak males have great offspring many many many times and I have witnessed really strong, what would seem great males put off disappoining offspring. Which is why, once again, I will stick with the only proven method of picking a male which is to judge it solely by it's offspring. It takes time, but it is worth it if you want to create top-notch crosses.
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Well no, it is scientifically proven across all genetics that passing on weak genes is not beneficial to the offspring/species. While you are right about there being no way to tell whether a male and female of two different strains are compatible until you grow out the offspring (has to do with both parents compatibility though, not the male specifically or whether the male is strong or unstable and weak). I don't know who you've seen or know that breeds with weak males, but that will pass on genetic instability and a ton of other unwanted crap. And I know as a fact that no reputable breeder is using weak plants in their crosses whether it be the male or female. That's just bad breeding.
 
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