bodhi seeds
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DoctorFrost
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Madagascar, Thanks but I don't have a reason to DM/PM them. I was not the one that was wronged here, just a bystander saying it is pretty bad they won't come on here and at least say what happened which was a pretty shady deal to start with. Look at the facts - They say they have 2 seeds in stock so Amos buys them.. then Al checks and it says they still have 2 beans in stock so he orders them. Then Amos e-mails them to ask what was up with that and they tell him they made a mistake and that there was actually only 2 to start with. BUT they still send Amos and Al the beans. So how did the other 2 magically appear? And Amos has sent them plenty of E-mails telling them they should reply on here and they have said a few times that they would.. but here we are without a reply yet.
I just don't get why you would want to order from them even stating yourself they probably don't give 2 shits. And they really must not, and was fairly obviously doing something dirty to start with. I DO blame the company, they have had plenty of time to correct this and Amos has exchanged enough e-mails with them. If they have people like this working for them, and doing shady stuff like the 2 seeds deal then why even mess with them? There are so many other seedbanks out there that have a great reputation and plenty of promos. I just looked and I wouldn't grow out 1 of those 14 seeds even if ya paid me too. Not worth it for the shitty bud. Most are autos, Barneys, weak potency crap. A couple of them might be OK, I just don't see any reason in growing any weak seeds out when you can get fire seeds for $5-10 each that becomes a plant worth hundreds if not thousands.
I just don't get why you would want to order from them even stating yourself they probably don't give 2 shits. And they really must not, and was fairly obviously doing something dirty to start with. I DO blame the company, they have had plenty of time to correct this and Amos has exchanged enough e-mails with them. If they have people like this working for them, and doing shady stuff like the 2 seeds deal then why even mess with them? There are so many other seedbanks out there that have a great reputation and plenty of promos. I just looked and I wouldn't grow out 1 of those 14 seeds even if ya paid me too. Not worth it for the shitty bud. Most are autos, Barneys, weak potency crap. A couple of them might be OK, I just don't see any reason in growing any weak seeds out when you can get fire seeds for $5-10 each that becomes a plant worth hundreds if not thousands.
Vnsmkr
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Gotta get em started some way eh. I wish I had someone giving me freebies when I was starting out, more to give me tips than the seeds. Good on ya. I do the same here with younguns in 1 gallon potsNo doubt, I give them to my buddy at work thats learning to grow. Has to be better than the AZ reggie he's smoking and saves me from giving him any more of my Bodhi stash R.I.P to my pack of Kindness and last 5 Lucky Charms i gave himhaha
Vnsmkr
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I dont know the answer to this, but I have a Tom Hill Deep Chunk IBL running now on my roof and its pushing over 100 in the afternoons. I'll let you know in a few months how it turns out
GrayeVOx
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Yeah he's a good dude, can't seem to get the seed popping down though ha. I just gave him a couple clones of Boysenberry HP in a 5 gals to get his garden going.
DoctorFrost
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KY, most of Bodhi's hybrids from Appy or Snow Lotus dads are Sativa dominant. I am sure you could find some good ones in there that lean indica though. Such as the Sunshine Daydream.. very very potent stuff that is more of a reaxing feel good pain killing high instead of a sativa high. This one is also one of his most potent hybrids and has the Appy dad, so these seeds won't be around much longer. Not sure how well it would do outside for mold/mildew/pests etc but it should finish in time for your area.
Another to look for that pops up some is Triad, it is pretty much just Bodhi's version of Northern Lights. I figure you have grown some Northern Lights before but it is Bodhi's NL5 clone x Ortegra (NL5xNL1xNL5). I know most Northern Lights crosses won't be as potent as some of his other hybrids like SSDD mentioned above but will still be fairly potent and indica dominant and I believe Northern Lights are fairly resilient outdoors and kinda low odor. Easily finish in time.
Wish Mountain, (Afkansastan x Appy) Not sure how the phenos lean on this one but a couple here have grown it out. Should kill it outdoors because the Afkansastan mom is an 80s afghani clone so that should make it very resilient. I'd say some phenos will lean affie and have more indica in them. I have heard some phenos of this have some killer potency and some have cherry flavors I believe.
But for the more indica leaning plants you may want to check out his G13HP crosses, most all of them should be very indica leaning and to your liking. Not sure how the G13HP does outside or how resilient it is... but I am sure it will get done in time in KY as well. They are known to be fairly early finishers. Some of the most popular ones are Dank Sinatra (LA Affie x G13hp), Dank Zappa (86 UW Hash Plant x G13hp), Red Eye Jedi (Skywalker OG x G13HP) Blueberry HP (Blue Dream x G13hp). And a couple others that may be leaning more sativa in certain phenos. But what I think would be the real winner outside for the G13HP crosses is the Cherry Mountain it is the Afkansastan mom mentioned above x G13HP. So should beef up the resilience of the G13hp a good bit.
Sorry for the longer post. But if it was me and I was worried more about molds/mildews etc I would probably choose Wish Mountain, and Cherry Hashplant since they have the affghani mother, or the Triad for Northern Lights, but if it wasn't for having landrace genetics I would for sure run the Sunshine Daydream because it is some killer stuff. Along with some more of those G13hp crosses.
Another to look for that pops up some is Triad, it is pretty much just Bodhi's version of Northern Lights. I figure you have grown some Northern Lights before but it is Bodhi's NL5 clone x Ortegra (NL5xNL1xNL5). I know most Northern Lights crosses won't be as potent as some of his other hybrids like SSDD mentioned above but will still be fairly potent and indica dominant and I believe Northern Lights are fairly resilient outdoors and kinda low odor. Easily finish in time.
Wish Mountain, (Afkansastan x Appy) Not sure how the phenos lean on this one but a couple here have grown it out. Should kill it outdoors because the Afkansastan mom is an 80s afghani clone so that should make it very resilient. I'd say some phenos will lean affie and have more indica in them. I have heard some phenos of this have some killer potency and some have cherry flavors I believe.
But for the more indica leaning plants you may want to check out his G13HP crosses, most all of them should be very indica leaning and to your liking. Not sure how the G13HP does outside or how resilient it is... but I am sure it will get done in time in KY as well. They are known to be fairly early finishers. Some of the most popular ones are Dank Sinatra (LA Affie x G13hp), Dank Zappa (86 UW Hash Plant x G13hp), Red Eye Jedi (Skywalker OG x G13HP) Blueberry HP (Blue Dream x G13hp). And a couple others that may be leaning more sativa in certain phenos. But what I think would be the real winner outside for the G13HP crosses is the Cherry Mountain it is the Afkansastan mom mentioned above x G13HP. So should beef up the resilience of the G13hp a good bit.
Sorry for the longer post. But if it was me and I was worried more about molds/mildews etc I would probably choose Wish Mountain, and Cherry Hashplant since they have the affghani mother, or the Triad for Northern Lights, but if it wasn't for having landrace genetics I would for sure run the Sunshine Daydream because it is some killer stuff. Along with some more of those G13hp crosses.
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Vnsmkr
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Awesome info, thx
DoctorFrost
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No problem.. I haven't ran any of those outdoors anyways so could be a little off. His g13hp crosses may be killer outdoors I just don't know how they do with molds/mildews/pests.
Also I want to add His Dragons Blood HP may be pretty good too, it has the G13HP dad so should be very indica but the mom is a seed from his 96 pipeline hashplants that came from Hawaii and he said is very resilient outdoors. The pheno in the Dragon Blood HP has red sap when broken into so that is where the name came from and he thinks it could be genetics related to the old Blood strain. He said the 96 pipeline HP seems like the same lineage as OG. So would probably be a pretty good one for ya. Some of his landraces would probably be killer outdoors too but most are Sativa dominant plants. I know last year he had some Vintage Pakistani seeds that I wish I woulda picked up. I figure they are more indica dominant but could be wrong.
Churtmunk, Both of those should be some killer strains. Cobra Lips will be gone forever here soon though. Not many have grown it out but I think I may pick up an extra pack myself becuase I love Chem hybrids and Bodhi said Chem 3 is his favorite Chem cut. So should be some special stuff in that pack. But I do believe I read somewhere Chem 3 is the most sensitive one and could throw some nanners etc. Could be wrong on this but I doubt Bodhi would have released it if anyone found a hermie in the testers. The Red Eye Jedi is a killer cross for sure with many people loving it. BUT it will be around for a long time to come. So if you want both, grab Cobra Lips now.
Also I want to add His Dragons Blood HP may be pretty good too, it has the G13HP dad so should be very indica but the mom is a seed from his 96 pipeline hashplants that came from Hawaii and he said is very resilient outdoors. The pheno in the Dragon Blood HP has red sap when broken into so that is where the name came from and he thinks it could be genetics related to the old Blood strain. He said the 96 pipeline HP seems like the same lineage as OG. So would probably be a pretty good one for ya. Some of his landraces would probably be killer outdoors too but most are Sativa dominant plants. I know last year he had some Vintage Pakistani seeds that I wish I woulda picked up. I figure they are more indica dominant but could be wrong.
Churtmunk, Both of those should be some killer strains. Cobra Lips will be gone forever here soon though. Not many have grown it out but I think I may pick up an extra pack myself becuase I love Chem hybrids and Bodhi said Chem 3 is his favorite Chem cut. So should be some special stuff in that pack. But I do believe I read somewhere Chem 3 is the most sensitive one and could throw some nanners etc. Could be wrong on this but I doubt Bodhi would have released it if anyone found a hermie in the testers. The Red Eye Jedi is a killer cross for sure with many people loving it. BUT it will be around for a long time to come. So if you want both, grab Cobra Lips now.
Slimjimham
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No doubt, I realize the work ahead is heavy but will be very worth it!
I'm thinking 9-10' ceilings isn't enough... Gavitas need to be at least 3' above plant canopy. I've got 8' now and could use at least another 3-4'
And I realize a room a week is still huge work but that's what employees are for... Teamwork makes the dream work!
Already have a meeting setup for HVAC estimates on different options I have.
Please PM me if you have experience in larger rooms, I'd love to get some 'i wish I knew this back in the day advice'
Thanks @martyg
Vnsmkr
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Can you sink those gavitas into your ceiling at 8' so as not to use that space or are you restricted to 8' max ceilings now. Just a thought?
Slimjimham
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I appreciate your input @kmog33 I'm not a closer grower and have a possible opportunity to make a big run at a legal recreational facility... Why not take it. I'm sure I'll learn a ton as I go as far as scaling goes... And everything in general. Surely after a few runs the rooms will get more dialed in and more efficient but I'm surly not going to throw away any money...
If you have any constructive input I'd love to hear it!
Thanks man
Slimjimham
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I could but still not enough space between the plants and lights... I grow 5+' plants and that's the height with lots of training... Plants could easily get 10' in my situation now if I had the ceiling height.
I currently just use air cooled single ended 1k lights now and they're still too close to the plants...
Vnsmkr
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I'm not endorsing him for anything, I just like to see what he's up to on youtube as he seems to know wtf is up, but maybe have a look at medicropper. I am pretty fkn sure he runs gavitas. He has a bunch of vids up on youtube
kmog33
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My best advice is start with a single flowering room and 6-10 lights and see how you feel about the workload. Then expand if you want. Going huge just because the opportunity is there sound good but you can get yourself into a lot of bs really fast with an op that size.
Run beds instead of pots of you're not doing straight hydro. Ebb n flow is good for large scale hydro.
Keep at least 2 of all electronics around that will cause problems if they have problems.
Don't tell people about it.
Don't bring girls to it.
Pick 2 strains and get them dialed. Add other as you go, but I've your solid fallbacks.
The biggest mistake you'll make is trying to do too much at once or too many things at a time.
For me that mean 1 cloning room
1 veg room.
And however many flowering rooms I had space for. Most of the time I'd go for 2 cycles of flowering. So pull once every month or so. Have done 3-4 flowering rooms before for breeding and experimental purposes, but that was a lot of work for me.
Lol.
DoctorFrost
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@Slimjimham , I doubt I have any useful advice for you but would like to give you an out of the box idea. I doubt it is something you want to do, but could be very beneficial if this is a long term setup. Consider using Cree LED COBs specifically the 3590s. I plan to switch to them myself for my small personal grow. I figured up the cost to be roughly around $1000 for the equivalence of a 1000w HPS for 56% efficiency and only 637 watts. OR around $1250 for 61% efficiency and only 603 watts, OR around $1500 for 64% efficiency and only 552 watts.
I know at first this would be BIG money to spend but think about the future. You do not ever need to change the light bulbs out. You wouldn't need nowhere near as much cooling because it would only be around half the power and much more efficient so probably only about 1/3rd or a little more of the heat for the same yield. And also think of the HUGE power savings. Just the lights alone would only be about half the electricity costs or slightly over... take off the AC you'd need and it is easily under half the electricity. I also hear it shaves off a few days on flowering times but not sure on this one.
Just something to think about.. I know it is far simpler to just buy some lights and plug them in and be done with it. BUT, you could probably almost pay someone a few bucks an hour to put these COBS together and still get them about the same price I said above because you should get a huge discount buying so many at once. Probably even end up cheaper then I said above. Just do NOT buy any of the premade lights because they are nowhere near as good as these COB's and the price is usually ridiculous. The gavitas will be far cheaper starting out.. but if you plan on growing at this location for over a couple years I'd say the LEDs will start to pay for themselves.
I know at first this would be BIG money to spend but think about the future. You do not ever need to change the light bulbs out. You wouldn't need nowhere near as much cooling because it would only be around half the power and much more efficient so probably only about 1/3rd or a little more of the heat for the same yield. And also think of the HUGE power savings. Just the lights alone would only be about half the electricity costs or slightly over... take off the AC you'd need and it is easily under half the electricity. I also hear it shaves off a few days on flowering times but not sure on this one.
Just something to think about.. I know it is far simpler to just buy some lights and plug them in and be done with it. BUT, you could probably almost pay someone a few bucks an hour to put these COBS together and still get them about the same price I said above because you should get a huge discount buying so many at once. Probably even end up cheaper then I said above. Just do NOT buy any of the premade lights because they are nowhere near as good as these COB's and the price is usually ridiculous. The gavitas will be far cheaper starting out.. but if you plan on growing at this location for over a couple years I'd say the LEDs will start to pay for themselves.
Vnsmkr
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^Absolutely