bodhi seeds

TonightYou

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Usually why people like clone only strains is for potential marketability. Lets say I made a cross with base X,Y,and Z. The genetic expression of X,Y,and Z comes out percentage wise as 25,45,and 30. Lets give you the same genetic base and you make a cross. By statistics alone after your cross can you recreate the exact same genetic makeup? And lets suggest your cross becomes inferior to mine because of the percentile outcome. I flood the market knowing my creation is unique and luckily stands out and people covet it. Within that clone only i created I can therefore scale the price in accordance to its actual demand. Just my take though broski.
Usually why people like clone only strains is for potential marketability. Lets say I made a cross with base X,Y,and Z. The genetic expression of X,Y,and Z comes out percentage wise as 25,45,and 30. Lets give you the same genetic base and you make a cross. By statistics alone after your cross can you recreate the exact same genetic makeup? And lets suggest your cross becomes inferior to mine because of the percentile outcome. I flood the market knowing my creation is unique and luckily stands out and people covet it. Within that clone only i created I can therefore scale the price in accordance to its actual demand. Just my take though broski.
I told myself I'd never pay that game. Don't get be wrong, I'd love a few clone only plants if the circumstances were favorable (clean garden, actually known cut, not expensive) but sadly that isn't the case. I'm not a gambling man unless the odds are in my favor. Nothing is worse than a stupidity tax (losing, time, money, productive garden) for a cut. Seeds are a gamble too, but less of a risk in my view
 

HGK420

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Usually why people like clone only strains is for potential marketability. Lets say I made a cross with base X,Y,and Z. The genetic expression of X,Y,and Z comes out percentage wise as 25,45,and 30. Lets give you the same genetic base and you make a cross. By statistics alone after your cross can you recreate the exact same genetic makeup? And lets suggest your cross becomes inferior to mine because of the percentile outcome. I flood the market knowing my creation is unique and luckily stands out and people covet it. Within that clone only i created I can therefore scale the price in accordance to its actual demand. Just my take though broski.

good to see ya brother! i decided to give HN a try and I'm very glad i did, appreciate the heads up.
 

greasemonkeymann

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I told myself I'd never pay that game. Don't get be wrong, I'd love a few clone only plants if the circumstances were favorable (clean garden, actually known cut, not expensive) but sadly that isn't the case. I'm not a gambling man unless the odds are in my favor. Nothing is worse than a stupidity tax (losing, time, money, productive garden) for a cut. Seeds are a gamble too, but less of a risk in my view
amen there, I hear ya LOUD and clear! I've grown MANY "name" strains, only to be vastly disappointed.
For example, and these don't mean the strains are bad, just the clones that I received for said strains were likely "imposters"
sour diesel, super silver haze, platinum girl scout, reg girl scout, thin mint, grand daddy purp, the flav, sugaree, Apollo 13, cindy99 (major disappointment), cheesequake (not finished yet but looks less than impressive), pineapple express (crap), there's more just can't remember them all.
it's always a gamble, but that's kinda the fun of it, if I won every time I played the game, i'd get bored.
I do seem to have good luck getting cuts from GROWERS, but not cloners. But fellow growers I've gotten a great sensi star, jack herer, blue dream, agent orange, J1, and a grapegod.
 

GODWORK

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I was planning on going to a med state on a clone hunt real soon...
I had luck scooping a few BIG name cuts....kosher. ak47. Flo....shit like that


Chem Glue, Ghost Og, Cookies....shit like this,
I wouldnt buy from anyone but the grower...

Take a simple strain like SSSDH (Ojd cut)...you can go to WA/CO/CA/MI
& find TONS of FAKES....but if you find a grower
you can sample bud & maybe see a real deal cut in flower...
That shit takes time....unless you know people

I got a guy right now with pure TXshoreline cuts...card2card, if your from outta town, you can kiss his ass
 

Mad Hamish

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White Lotus it is :) For some odd reason I just did not notice it sitting there. When I did, my heart literally skipped a beat. YES. The mother of all runs coming right up.
 

Mad Hamish

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Thank you, my brother.
Between opengrow for sannies and breedbay for bodhis, I don't spend much time here anymore.
Every community has it's strong points. For pure info I don't come here, but I don't own TV and forums are my preferred entertainment, far as that goes RIU will always rule lol... But something special about the Bay. I LOVE the vibe there. The people I have met and conversations shared have been real eye-openers. I learned about Downwinder's Syndrome from a guy there, man, what a rough hand to be dealt. B's got him on a 3-strain treatment program, phenomenal reading about what herb is doing for people you are actually getting to know.
 

GODWORK

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I told myself I'd never pay that game. Don't get be wrong, I'd love a few clone only plants if the circumstances were favorable (clean garden, actually known cut, not expensive) but sadly that isn't the case. I'm not a gambling man unless the odds are in my favor. Nothing is worse than a stupidity tax (losing, time, money, productive garden) for a cut. Seeds are a gamble too, but less of a risk in my view

If I see a cut in flower, I can verify it by sight.
In veg, I MIGHT be able to spot leaf texture, shape, or smell but thats rare..
Some people see the roulette table & freak out...if you lay your spread right your odds increase

If I can form a relationship with a known grower....& then visit; thats better odds
 

TonightYou

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I'm liking what I'm seeing on the White Lotus girls I've got going on. Typical Bodhi frost, two distinct pheno expressions. One is looking more appealing than the other. My favorite looking one now, because smoke will be the final test, has OG style nugs, built on a solid frame and closer node spacing than most OG types. I'm not sure if the white is an OG, as the history seems fuzzy. I am a tad more excited about lemon zinger as she smells absolutely fantastic like lemon peels and is probably going to be very frosty based on her current resin output.
 

TonightYou

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If I see a cut in flower, I can verify it by sight.
In veg, I MIGHT be able to spot leaf texture, shape, or smell but thats rare..
Some people see the roulette table & freak out...if you lay your spread right your odds increase

If I can form a relationship with a known grower....& then visit; thats better odds
There is only one grower I knew really well who would get verifiable cuts. The dude had a process of using two different sources or more and then proceeding to grow them out simultaneously to determine if in fact what he had was what it was suppose to be. How he did these trips when he was afraid of using the phone and acting more like a coke or smack dealer is beyond me but I know he had family out in Cali. If either clone grew and produced very similar results, he'd be happy. Variances meant locating new separate parties to verify, even if one was completely awesome and another cut totally not what it should have been. He would ship them back to the D, and then recoup expenses from other growers. He was no slouch when it came to cannabis, and was an excellent grower despite growing in ways I wouldn't bother (ie always trying the latest and greatest bottles and shit)
 

GODWORK

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There is only one grower I knew really well who would get verifiable cuts. The dude had a process of using two different sources or more and then proceeding to grow them out simultaneously to determine if in fact what he had was what it was suppose to be. How he did these trips when he was afraid of using the phone and acting more like a coke or smack dealer is beyond me but I know he had family out in Cali. If either clone grew and produced very similar results, he'd be happy. Variances meant locating new separate parties to verify, even if one was completely awesome and another cut totally not what it should have been. He would ship them back to the D, and then recoup expenses from other growers. He was no slouch when it came to cannabis, and was an excellent grower despite growing in ways I wouldn't bother (ie always trying the latest and greatest bottles and shit)

Thats a Badass Method....

Im on 6-7 forums....
Thats my way of spotting physical difference...even though some growers are new you can still see the key traits

As for getting a cut...
If your about your craft...they will share
alot of the time its crew based....

The thing I remember is that NOBODY gets to that level without passion
Passion is what drives us....
If you can get them to see how rooted your passion is....
they'll share cuts

You cant expect to just talk chess with Bobby Fischer without a true passion....it just doesnt fucking work.
 

TonightYou

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Thats a Badass Method....

Im on 6-7 forums....
Thats my way of spotting physical difference...even though some growers are new you can still see the key traits

As for getting a cut...
If your about your craft...they will share
alot of the time its crew based....

The thing I remember is that NOBODY gets to that level without passion
Passion is what drives us....
If you can get them to see how rooted your passion is....
they'll share cuts

You cant expect to just talk chess with Bobby Fischer without a true passion....it just doesnt fucking work.
yea he's more of the lone wolf type as am I, me more so than him now. Minus boards, I don't mind making new friends and do meet some new growers randomly. When I was more involved pre/post medical, I ended up feeling a bit more slighted by the community. Not personally, but how some of the old school dealers were treating people new to cannabis and we're looking for a buck. Particularly as a grower now, unlike then, my suspicions were not only confirmed but shown to be under estimated. Due to those reasons I came to boards and withdrew from many of the people I use to help with their "compassionate care" and education, something I believed in, taught free classes on the history and medicinal properties and studies.
 

greasemonkeymann

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yea he's more of the lone wolf type as am I, me more so than him now. Minus boards, I don't mind making new friends and do meet some new growers randomly. When I was more involved pre/post medical, I ended up feeling a bit more slighted by the community. Not personally, but how some of the old school dealers were treating people new to cannabis and we're looking for a buck. Particularly as a grower now, unlike then, my suspicions were not only confirmed but shown to be under estimated. Due to those reasons I came to boards and withdrew from many of the people I use to help with their "compassionate care" and education, something I believed in, taught free classes on the history and medicinal properties and studies.
sadly I agree with you, I used to be more involved with helping people and educating people, but I've literally learned the hard way, that sometimes the saying "no good deed, goes unpunished" is actually true, sometimes...
the EXACT same thing happened with my career in the auto industry, I used to help SO many people out, free of charge, but in the end it sadly goes either unappreciated or simply abused.
an example would be fixing an obvious problem, on someones car prior to an emissions test, and still having it fail due to a totally different issue, then all of a sudden the customer says "well my car passed last time I smogged it, what did you do?"
that's where I subtract the urge for physical violence and calmly tell them EVERY car passed last time, that's how you got it registered....
that's like blaming the doctor for telling you that you have cancer, because last time you had a physical you DIDN"T have cancer....
hmm after reading this I kinda sound jaded. I'm not, I love life, just learned some shit the hard way
I've also noticed that a lot of potsmokers/growers are somewhat introverted anyways, kinda loners to begin with. Could just be the ones I know... But I know a few growers
 

TonightYou

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sadly I agree with you, I used to be more involved with helping people and educating people, but I've literally learned the hard way, that sometimes the saying "no good deed, goes unpunished" is actually true, sometimes...
the EXACT same thing happened with my career in the auto industry, I used to help SO many people out, free of charge, but in the end it sadly goes either unappreciated or simply abused.
an example would be fixing an obvious problem, on someones car prior to an emissions test, and still having it fail due to a totally different issue, then all of a sudden the customer says "well my car passed last time I smogged it, what did you do?"
that's where I subtract the urge for physical violence and calmly tell them EVERY car passed last time, that's how you got it registered....
that's like blaming the doctor for telling you that you have cancer, because last time you had a physical you DIDN"T have cancer....
hmm after reading this I kinda sound jaded. I'm not, I love life, just learned some shit the hard way
I've also noticed that a lot of potsmokers/growers are somewhat introverted anyways, kinda loners to begin with. Could just be the ones I know... But I know a few growers
Well to clarify a bit without divulging too much personal detail, the people weren't necessarily bad. My issues stem from the concept of these people wanting to work in the grey, and not having the stated values align with their actions. They were more interested in a commercial enterprise operating under the guise of a non profit. I take major issue with this. I was there under the impression of helping people and welcoming those into the fold. I was not interested in finding niches to commercialize off people with little to no cannabis experience and looking for honest help and advice. Look, I've got no issues with a commercial model, but to guise it as an unregistered non profit simply wasn't something I could be a part of. Instead of legitimacy they still wanted to hold on to the grey/illegal mindset. That form of deception was totally not kosher for me
 

Mad Hamish

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Charge nothing for your time and people won't feel it is worth anything. Learned that in the music biz. Now if you want to learn to play Comfortably Numb or a scale of want your guitar set up, I charge by the hour. Funny thing, make your price high and all of a sudden your time is respected. SUCKS but it seems to work like that.
 

TonightYou

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Charge nothing for your time and people won't feel it is worth anything. Learned that in the music biz. Now if you want to learn to play Comfortably Numb or a scale of want your guitar set up, I charge by the hour. Funny thing, make your price high and all of a sudden your time is respected. SUCKS but it seems to work like that.
weirdly I've learned that as well. Had a customer for my freelance who can be difficult. She frustrated be and occupied much of my time. so I raised my rates. Lo and behold, at first she was a tad surprised when I invoiced her. Now she still calls but no longer holds a "my time is so precious and bend to my schedule" to be more respectful and straight to the point when she needs something. Kinda felt bad doing it, but it solved some of the superiority complex.
 

greasemonkeymann

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Charge nothing for your time and people won't feel it is worth anything. Learned that in the music biz. Now if you want to learn to play Comfortably Numb or a scale of want your guitar set up, I charge by the hour. Funny thing, make your price high and all of a sudden your time is respected. SUCKS but it seems to work like that.
this is very true, however, shittily the automotive industry is highly competitive, compound that with parts stores spreading misinformation, and it's difficult, to say the least. So when o'reillys/pepboys/ whatever offers to "check" your check engine light for free, well that's where people expect shit for free. Same thing applies to a "pass or don't pay" smog check. Screw that, I have bills to pay, if I smog your car, i'm getting compensated.
The bright side is, the extensive education pays off a bit, local auto shops send their "trouble" cars to me, I have a reputation for being a fairly competent diagnostician (if I can humbly claim that), when it comes to troubleshooting or diagnostics, the competition weakens significantly, ANYBODY can replace auto parts... take part off, put part on. BUT only a very small percentage can actually diagnose cars, like current ramp an ignition system and tell you whats wrong solely from that, or looking at the long term fuel mapping inof, or an oxygen sensor waveform, etc, etc.
off-topic, but that's cool that you are a musician, i'm a bassist, I have an old 77 fender jazz bass, that I beat up on. Made in aug of 1977, just like me.
 

greasemonkeymann

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ok, I should attempt to get this back on topic, i'm getting two Bodhi strains, and I
m highly leaning towards the lucky charms, and the gojo og.
What do you fellas think?
 
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