Blue Dream SCRoG + Undercurrent DWC + CO2

berkman858 said:

All of the thick white root growth that you see is from the last few days when they have been getting nothing but R/O water and Orca. The brown/tan looking roots are the older growth that didn't really do much of anything during the previous week and half when they were getting fried.

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bassman999 said:

So less is more you are saying with the rooting clones? Speaking of additives etc in the water.

My last 2 runs of clones in my homemade aerocloner failed miserably and I lost some good genetics as a result.

I have heard plain cool water and change everyday, maybe in one of your threads?? Anyway I am gonna try that.
I have clones I took today and some yday in the humidity done, and want to put em in my cloner.

Only thing is I need a ph meter to do that and all mine are broken.

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berkman858 said:

I didn't PH the R/O water that I used in my aero cloner, but I probably should. What is happening to the cuttings? Are they wilting?

When I first tried my homemade aero cloner I put the pump on a timer so that the water wouldn't get too hot but the cuttings all wilted when the pump turned off. I took the pump off of the timer and the cuttings came back and rooted fine.

I also didn't change the water in the aero cloner until I wanted to add nutes and start vegging in there. I think I had the original water in there for 2 weeks before I changed it. I did put TEA in with the water so it wouldn't grow algae and since the TEA has Roots Excelurator in there I also figured it would help the roots.

For this current cloning attempt I put in 5 gallons of R/O water, TEA, and 5ml of Roots Excelurator. Let's see how that works.

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MarioMadness said:

Acutely I just did this with 2 clones I cut off.. Just keep them in plain cool tap water in a water bottle for a few days, changed to new bottle every other day or so . and oh a week later the roots that were almost 10"inch's long... And no additives. Just tap water! left in 24 hours light. once they come in they really come in!

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bassman999 said:

So less is more you are saying with the rooting clones? Speaking of additives etc in the water.

My last 2 runs of clones in my homemade aerocloner failed miserably and I lost some good genetics as a result.

I have heard plain cool water and change everyday, maybe in one of your threads?? Anyway I am gonna try that.
I have clones I took today and some yday in the humidity done, and want to put em in my cloner.

Only thing is I need a ph meter to do that and all mine are broken.

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berkman858 said:

I didn't PH the R/O water that I used in my aero cloner, but I probably should. What is happening to the cuttings? Are they wilting?

When I first tried my homemade aero cloner I put the pump on a timer so that the water wouldn't get too hot but the cuttings all wilted when the pump turned off. I took the pump off of the timer and the cuttings came back and rooted fine.

I also didn't change the water in the aero cloner until I wanted to add nutes and start vegging in there. I think I had the original water in there for 2 weeks before I changed it. I did put TEA in with the water so it wouldn't grow algae and since the TEA has Roots Excelurator in there I also figured it would help the roots.

For this current cloning attempt I put in 5 gallons of R/O water, TEA, and 5ml of Roots Excelurator. Let's see how that works.

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bassman999 said:

I tried tap water a yr ago.
They did nothing ever, must be a difference in water...
My tap water ph is almost 8

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bassman999 said:

My water temp was about 80 I think. The house was 75-80, and the water warmer from the pump.
I figure the temps are down now, and thinking back the cloner worked best during the winter. Roots in 5-12 days dep on strain.
I have a chiller, but seems like a waste to use a chiller and pay that price unless I am running 100 clones or something.

Next summer/spring Ill add ice cubes all day and swap water every other day I think.

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SFguy said:

my house stays like 60-70 lol cause i try to keep the temps down in my kitchen grow tent and my closet too. LOL my cloner just sits out in the living room and the temos are waaaay below that the water always feels cool to the touch.... seems like indeed its too hot too hot.. but ya try some frozen water bottles, or a larger resivoir cloner so there is more volume of water it wont heat up so fast.

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bassman999 said:

Yeah I have a 5 gal bucket cloner, since my tote cloner always leaked. It was way better, you are right size matters lol.

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SFguy said:

i use only plain water in my cloner too with my pump on 24/7 change the water maybe 1x a week less if im feelin lazy but i have rooted clones from my cloner that i never changed the water in at all, the browning stems on your clones may be an issue of too warm of water i have noticed that happening in my cloner with a couple but only when the temps in my house are really hot. the swollen setms is a GOOD THING, mine swell up and spit out roots yours were probably really close to rooting!!!!




all my clones wilt too if the pump is not on 24/7 but i just use plain tap water from the faucet, no nutes or anything this last batch of clones 20-25 did aight. not stellar by any means though i never checked the ph of my tap water... maybe i should.



i never checked the ph of my tap water ... maybe i should. but alas no brains no headaches.

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berkman858 said:

I have 5 gallons in my 18 gallon tote. I will let you guys know how it all works out.

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bassman999 said:

Ok I washed out my 5 gal homer bucket cloner and put the clones in there with a mix of 60% R/O and 40% tap water and nothing else. Trying the buffering method and the tap water method at once lol. I haver it in the garage to help keep it cooler

they look good in there so far.

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AdvancedNewbie said:

I have been cloning for the last week - no real signs of roots yet, other than a little bit of white at the top of the rockwool. I think I'm going to focus on watering the rockwool and not so much the leaves now - try to coax them into growing roots and getting their water from the rockwool and not via foliar-feeding.

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berkman858 said:

Good luck and thx, they still look the same. At least from what I can see they look the same, I am going to wait a few more days before taking a look under the lid. I figure they are in a very fragile state right now.

Can you explain a little better how you are using the 5 gallon bucket to clone? I am confused. And high. High and confused.

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berkman858 said:

Nice, I didn't put any net pots in my cloner. I see that most people have them, what is the advantage?

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bassman999 said:

IDK, I had some plugs fall through. I prolly cut the holes too big, or the cloner plugs are crap. I used a 2" hole saw for my holes. 1.75" might have been better.

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