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PJ Diaz · Feb 25, 2020

rkymtnman said:
citation? other than from you, preferably from Bern.

He's posted his tax plan, you can take a look at.

rkymtnman · Feb 25, 2020

PJ Diaz said:
He's posted his tax plan, you can take a look at.

i saw that. i was just channeling my inner skylaar.

UncleBuck · Feb 25, 2020

PJ Diaz said:
Ah yes, my bad. I wasn't considering the other 4%, because I see that as a wash when it comes to what people typically spend on health care every year.

I will give you that one though. I guess you'll have to raise the cost of your services, as you're self-employed. Cost of doing business and all.

i pay for insurance that I have used twice in the last decade. A nail in the finger and a razor blade in my hand. I look at it as me basically paying for everyone else who needs non-acute, ongoing care.

The fact that you have to lie about doubling the taxes of a solidly middle class, blue collar roughneck is all the proof I need that you are pushing for a nominee who will lose to trump, guaranteed

You are an obvious fraud

UncleBuck · Feb 25, 2020

PJ Diaz said:
How much do you pay for health care each year? My employer pays around 30k for my family coverage. Do you have cheap insurance or something?

i don’t pay 12% of my income for insurance like I would under sanders

Jimdamick · Feb 25, 2020

UncleBuck said:
wrong

I make 50-60 a year and my taxes would nearly double

Sanders say's long term you will actually save money on your Health Insurance, but who really gives a fuck about saving $5000 over a 10 year period when your simply trying to pay today's bills?
It will take years for Sanders plan to be enacted, if ever, because you know the Insurance Companies/Republicans are going to litigate the shit out of it, and they will gladly do it, and probably win in the Supreme Court the way things are going.

Fogdog · Feb 25, 2020

PJ Diaz said:
Got it. You don't have an answer to debate me with because you know that my answer is most correct. Just answer the question or stop your ridiculous rhetoric.

That's not what I said. Ask me a question to clarify what I've actually said and I'll answer. I'm under no obligation to clairify what I didn't say. How dumb is that? What you are engaging in is false and deceptive rhetoric. You are becoming repetitive and boring just like Rob Roy.

Fogdog · Feb 25, 2020

rkymtnman said:
i saw that. i was just channeling my inner skylaar.

He cited a political ad

LOL

Fogdog · Feb 25, 2020

Jimdamick said:
Sanders say's long term you will actually save money on your Health Insurance, but who really gives a fuck about saving $5000 over a 10 year period when your simply trying to pay today's bills?
It will take years for Sanders plan to be enacted, if ever, because you know the Insurance Companies/Republicans are going to litigate the shit out of it, and they will gladly do it, and probably win in the Supreme Court the way things are going.

gasp

Do you mean to say that Sanders is not being fully honest with us? I thought only his followers like @PJ Diaz were effing liars. I mean, since when does a lying politician attract a pack of liars as followers.

Shocked I am. Shocked.

PJ Diaz · Feb 25, 2020

Fogdog said:
That's not what I said. Ask me a question to clarify what I've actually said and I'll answer. I'm under no obligation to clairify what I didn't say. How dumb is that? What you are engaging in is false and deceptive rhetoric. You are becoming repetitive and boring just like Rob Roy.

I see why you don't want to answer the question. It's because my answer was correct.

Fogdog · Feb 25, 2020

PJ Diaz said:
I see why you don't want to answer the question. It's because my answer was correct.

Nobody believes you

Go cite another political ad.

LOL

PJ Diaz · Feb 25, 2020

Fogdog said:
Nobody believes you

Go cite another political ad.

LOL

At least we both agree that Bernie has the most support of all Democrat voters thus far. That and that the primary focus is to beat Trump in November. At least we agree on two things.

Fogdog · Feb 25, 2020

PJ Diaz said:
At least we both agree that Bernie has the most support of all Democrat voters thus far. That and that the primary focus is to beat Trump in November. At least we agree on two things.

You lost me when you told me I had to clarify a statement I didn't make.

We have nothing in common.

rkymtnman · Feb 25, 2020

PJ Diaz said:
At least we both agree that Bernie has the most support of all Democrat voters thus far.

let's see how that washes out after next Tuesday.
Iowa (red anyway), NH (should be a bern shut-out) and nevada (same as '16)

PJ Diaz · Feb 25, 2020

rkymtnman said:
let's see how that washes out after next Tuesday.
Iowa (red anyway), NH (should be a bern shut-out) and nevada (same as '16)

Sure. He should have somewhere between 650 and 725 delegates by that point, which will only leave around 750 total delegates (including those of the already concluded primaries) left to divide among the rest of the pack.

hanimmal · Feb 25, 2020

Warren is already propping Bernie up right off the bat. She is working hard for the VP role.

rkymtnman · Feb 25, 2020

PJ Diaz said:
Sure. He should have somewhere between 650 and 725 delegates by that point, which will only leave around 750 total delegates (including those of the already concluded primaries) left to divide among the rest of the pack.

fine with me. if he's who the DNC chooses as the best shot to beat Trump, i'm in.

PJ Diaz · Feb 25, 2020

hanimmal said:
Warren is already propping Bernie up right off the bat. She is working hard for the VP role.

They share similar values.

UncleBuck · Feb 25, 2020

PJ Diaz said:
we both agree that Bernie has the most support of all Democrat voters thus far.

Nope

Anyone but Bernie

UncleBuck · Feb 25, 2020

PJ Diaz said:
Sure. He should have somewhere between 650 and 725 delegates by that point, which will only leave around 750 total delegates (including those of the already concluded primaries) left to divide among the rest of the pack.

so in other words he’ll get less than the alternatives

Padawanbater2 · Feb 25, 2020

The increase in public taxes is offset by the elimination of private taxes (copays, deductibles, premiums) so the majority of Americans receive a net decrease in taxes

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