Blew my breaker, plug grounded?

natureboygrower said:
I get that. But I'd feel better about him finding that outside main if there is one before he starts taking covers off panels. Who knows whats inside, could be a real rats nest. Those lugs are still going to be energized above the breaker.
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you are 10000% correct. if you could snap him a pic of what NOT to touch while in the panel just in case he has no disconnect outside like you do. With the main break off of course.
 
Moabfighter said:
Without the cover....

So you’re saying turn the main off, unscrew one of those little black wires. The one going to bedroom. Make sure it isn’t touching anything (can I put electric tape on the exposed wire?) put cover back on, then try to turn the breaker that I just unplugged, back on?
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You got an easy one!
Turn the main off, un hook the black wire going to THAT breaker that wont untrip. You wont need to cover with tape OR put the cover back on. not yet. just pull the wire out of the way (it gets its power from the breaker , not the other way around so its DEAD) , turn the main back on , then turn that breaker back on and im guessing it wont work again....
 
your main breaker is off so its dead on that screw with the wire your taking off .....just be careful as i know you will.
 
getogrow said:
You got an easy one!
Turn the main off, un hook the black wire going to THAT breaker that wont untrip. You wont need to cover with tape OR put the cover back on. not yet. just pull the wire out of the way (it gets its power from the breaker , not the other way around so its DEAD) , turn the main back on , then turn that breaker back on and im guessing it wont work again....
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I’m gonna take a 5 minute breather. Get a few replies in here about the outside part. Don’t want my literally fatal mistake to be that if we are onto a possible fix.
 
Moabfighter said:
I’m gonna take a 5 minute breather. Get a few replies in here about the outside part. Don’t want my literally fatal mistake to be that if we are onto a possible fix.
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YES , lets turn that outside part off if possible. these guys are right....i9m just literally trying to hurry because you here and on it right now.
 
getogrow said:
its behinid that door with nothing on it. pull up and you will see a breaker to turn off....
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Alright so kill that outside bit, and basically I’ll have zero power to home. Go ahead and shut down the large lever on the breaker box just because? Unscrew that wire. Leave cover off. Turn lever back up on box, go outside, flip that lever back up, and I should expect....?

everything to be working except grow room?
 
Moabfighter said:
Alright so kill that outside bit, and basically I’ll have zero power to home. Go ahead and shut down the large lever on the breaker box just because? Unscrew that wire. Leave cover off. Turn lever back up on box, go outside, flip that lever back up, and I should expect....?

everything to be working except grow room?
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We are HOPING that the breaker still does not work , meaning you will need to go grab a breaker.... cheap and with the outside being turned off , you are SAFE!!!
 
Moabfighter said:
Without the cover....

So you’re saying turn the main off, unscrew one of those little black wires. The one going to bedroom. Make sure it isn’t touching anything (can I put electric tape on the exposed wire?) put cover back on, then try to turn the breaker that I just unplugged, back on?
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I don't want to be a Mr Doom and Gloom but if you don't know anything about electricity or wiring "no offense" I would not go back and forth over the internet trying to mess around at the breaker box. There is a ton of information explaining how all that wiring works. Spend some time online researching so that you know what you're doing and why your doing it before you just start yanking wires and stuff.

I'm sure many of these guys know what they're talking about but they're not actually there. If you make a mistake or do something wrong you're the one that is going to pay the price.

Stay safe.
 
Moabfighter said:
Alright so kill that outside bit, and basically I’ll have zero power to home. Go ahead and shut down the large lever on the breaker box just because? Unscrew that wire. Leave cover off. Turn lever back up on box, go outside, flip that lever back up, and I should expect....?

everything to be working except grow room?
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exactly , except i doont think were on the same page as to what to expect but the labor part is 100% correct. You are safe with that outside shut off....i would never get you hurt.
 
xtsho said:
I don't want to be a Mr Doom and Gloom but if you don't know anything about electricity or wiring "no offense" I would not go back and forth over the internet trying to mess around at the breaker box. There is a ton of information explaining how all that wiring works. Spend some time online researching so that you know what you're doing and why your doing it before you just start yanking wires and stuff.

I'm sure many of these guys know what they're talking about but they're not actually there. If you make a mistake or do something wrong you're the one that is going to pay the price.

Stay safe.
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Your usually a genius but were in a real world situation here , if your not a sparky then we dont need folks scaring him. I KNOW your just trying to do whats best but thats not whats needed here. If you catch something unsafe then please post but man this dude needs help badly.... You cannot be hurt if the outside is shut off.
 
i KNOW how scared of electricity you are Moab. Everything i say is based off that fear and i have confidence you will be fine. AMPS will kill you .....with NOTHING running there are ZERO amps ....you will be fine ..... get your shit up an running again so your ol lady dont kill you.
 
Moabfighter said:
Without the cover....

So you’re saying turn the main off, unscrew one of those little black wires. The one going to bedroom. Make sure it isn’t touching anything (can I put electric tape on the exposed wire?) put cover back on, then try to turn the breaker that I just unplugged, back on?
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I dont think youre going to find a breaker by your meter. Dont worry about that now, hit your main at the panel. Ive circled the hot parts. Those black line and those lugs are energized. Be cautious.20201013_132233.jpgScreenshot_20201013-133825_DuckDuckGo.jpg20201013_132318.jpg
 
getogrow said:
i KNOW how scared of electricity you are Moab. Everything i say is based off that fear and i have confidence you will be fine. AMPS will kill you .....with NOTHING running there are ZERO amps ....you will be fine ..... get your shit up an running again so your ol lady dont kill you.
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Quick question. The “electrician” that said the breaker was good..... did not go outside and shut anything off. I DO believe that IS what needs to be done. But he didn’t do that. Did he just tell me breaker was good without even knowing? It’s seeming more and more to be the breaker. But that’s like the first thing dude allegedly checked before he checked all the outlets.

also one last brain pick for this scenario. Excuse my ignorance please but I’m playing devils advocate. How are we going to understandanything by removing the “power wire” to the breaker in question, and turning it back on? With it unplugged obviously it won’t come on. Right???
 
natureboygrower said:
I dont think youre going to find a breaker by your meter. Dont worry about that now, hit your main at the panel. Ive circled the hot parts. Those black line and those lugs are energized. Be cautious.
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Thank you sir. ONLY the circled parts have power while the main breaker is off BUT he found a disconnect so he will be working 100% Zero power.
 
I’m going to go outside to see if that box does indeed have a kill switch to be more safe. Report back soon. Thinking we may atleast find a conclusion today folks. Thanks for the help.
 
Moabfighter said:
Quick question. The “electrician” that said the breaker was good..... did not go outside and shut anything off. I DO believe that IS what needs to be done. But he didn’t do that. Did he just tell me breaker was good without even knowing? It’s seeming more and more to be the breaker. But that’s like the first thing dude allegedly checked before he checked all the outlets.

also one last brain pick for this scenario. Excuse my ignorance please but I’m playing devils advocate. How are we going to understandanything by removing the “power wire” to the breaker in question, and turning it back on? With it unplugged obviously it won’t come on. Right???
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Wrong. it will come right on and stay on if its good. NOT the stuff in the house , just the breaker itself will come on an stay on. The stuff in your house is ran to that wire your pulling off, thats dead completely while off the breaker.
 
We almost have to completely forget about what your electrician told you because we have several of them right here. He may be right or wrong , i dont wanna go through all that. i just wanna get you fixed.
 
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