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Weekly Wrap: A Birth Certificate By Any Other Name
It seems nothing will deter the conspiracy theorists known as birthers, who have become the bane of the Republican Party's existence with their (dare we say wacky) claim that Barack Obama was born in Kenya and, therefore, is not a natural born citizen.
Birthers who commented on our Thursday posting generally continued to claim that Obama has not produced a true birth certificate, and that the document he produced last year is a fake.
They're also fixated on the type of birth document issued by the Hawaiian government, which is called a "certification of live birth." They refuse for some reason to believe that a certification is the same as a birth certificate.
By all rational accounts, the two documents are most certainly one and the same, only with different titles. (Calling Shakespeare.)
A certification of live birth is the "official birth certificate" of Hawaii, according to the state's Department of Health spokeswoman, Janice Okubo. And the nonpartisan, nonprofit Factcheck.org, which examined Obama's original birth certificate last year at the president's campaign headquarters in Chicago, concluded, "It meets all of the requirements from the State Department for proving U.S. citizenship."
To those who continue to speculate Obama's birth certificate was destroyed, Hawaiian health department officials answered that point of hysteria as well this week.
"We don't destroy vital records," Okubo said. "That's our whole job, to maintain and retain vital records." State health officials said the original birth certificate, the same one reviewed by Factcheck.org, is back in storage in Hawaii.
But still, the birthers ask, why won't President Obama release his original birth certificate and possibly bury the issue once and for all?
The Wall Street Journal has an excellent answer to this question: "Why should he? The demand has no basis in principle and would have no practical benefit."
James Taranto writes in his "Best of the Web" column, "Obama has already provided a legal birth certificate demonstrating that he was born in Hawaii. No one has produced any serious evidence to the contrary. Absent such evidence, it is unreasonable to deny that Obama has met the burden of proof. We know that he was born in Honolulu as surely as we know that Bill Clinton was born in Hope, Ark., or George W. Bush in New Haven, Conn.
"The release of the obsolete birth certificate would not 'resolve the issue' to those for whom it is not already resolved. They claim without basis that today's birth certificate is a fake; there is nothing to stop them from claiming without basis that yesterday's is as well."
As White House press secretary Robert Gibbs put it this week, "If I had some DNA, it wouldn't assuage those that don't believe he was born here. But I have news for them and for all of us: The president was born in Honolulu, Hawaii, the 50th state of the greatest country on the face of the Earth. He's a citizen."
Listen to the video Carefully
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http://voices.washingtonpost.com/sleuth/2009/07/a_birth_certificate_by_any.html?hpid=news-col-blog
Weekly Wrap: A Birth Certificate By Any Other Name
It seems nothing will deter the conspiracy theorists known as birthers, who have become the bane of the Republican Party's existence with their (dare we say wacky) claim that Barack Obama was born in Kenya and, therefore, is not a natural born citizen.
Birthers who commented on our Thursday posting generally continued to claim that Obama has not produced a true birth certificate, and that the document he produced last year is a fake.
They're also fixated on the type of birth document issued by the Hawaiian government, which is called a "certification of live birth." They refuse for some reason to believe that a certification is the same as a birth certificate.
By all rational accounts, the two documents are most certainly one and the same, only with different titles. (Calling Shakespeare.)
A certification of live birth is the "official birth certificate" of Hawaii, according to the state's Department of Health spokeswoman, Janice Okubo. And the nonpartisan, nonprofit Factcheck.org, which examined Obama's original birth certificate last year at the president's campaign headquarters in Chicago, concluded, "It meets all of the requirements from the State Department for proving U.S. citizenship."
To those who continue to speculate Obama's birth certificate was destroyed, Hawaiian health department officials answered that point of hysteria as well this week.
"We don't destroy vital records," Okubo said. "That's our whole job, to maintain and retain vital records." State health officials said the original birth certificate, the same one reviewed by Factcheck.org, is back in storage in Hawaii.
But still, the birthers ask, why won't President Obama release his original birth certificate and possibly bury the issue once and for all?
The Wall Street Journal has an excellent answer to this question: "Why should he? The demand has no basis in principle and would have no practical benefit."
James Taranto writes in his "Best of the Web" column, "Obama has already provided a legal birth certificate demonstrating that he was born in Hawaii. No one has produced any serious evidence to the contrary. Absent such evidence, it is unreasonable to deny that Obama has met the burden of proof. We know that he was born in Honolulu as surely as we know that Bill Clinton was born in Hope, Ark., or George W. Bush in New Haven, Conn.
"The release of the obsolete birth certificate would not 'resolve the issue' to those for whom it is not already resolved. They claim without basis that today's birth certificate is a fake; there is nothing to stop them from claiming without basis that yesterday's is as well."
As White House press secretary Robert Gibbs put it this week, "If I had some DNA, it wouldn't assuage those that don't believe he was born here. But I have news for them and for all of us: The president was born in Honolulu, Hawaii, the 50th state of the greatest country on the face of the Earth. He's a citizen."
