Biden mishandles classified documents

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Fogdog

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Dorian2 said:
I couldn't give you a concrete example considering I'm not privy to the news editors room where the news meetings take place. In my own personal experience, they are closed door meetings. I do, however, understand how the news cycle can and does affect how certain advertisers will react with an organization. Which does affect the bottom line.

Again, do you think you're getting the full story when you read or watch the news? Particularly in your own country? I know I don't in mine. I'm positive about that.
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Your personal experience is not a worthy source to cite.

What you are expressing is cynicism. A sneering disbelief in sincerity or integrity. Of course you cite yourself. You don't trust any other sources. It makes you ignorant and your arguments invalid.
 
Dorian2

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cannabineer said:
“I’m positive about that” on what documented basis?

Otherwise, aren’t you claiming objective value for a subjective assessment?
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Peronal experience related to the subject. No documentation at all. That's all I can offer. Just giving you another viewpoint to consider from somebody with some real life experience who does not follow the news a lot. I'm not basing my opinion on concrete, writeen volumes of text, news sites (since I rarely go to them), or abstracts. Just my own perspective on this subject. Take it or leave it I guess. It is what it is.

Considering assumptions @Fogdog just made about my own personal life experience, I'm out guys.

Later
 
cannabineer

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Dorian2 said:
Peronal experience related to the subject. No documentation at all. That's all I can offer. Just giving you another viewpoint to consider from somebody with some real life experience who does not follow the news a lot. I'm not basing my opinion on concrete, writeen volumes of text, news sites (since I rarely go to them), or abstracts. Just my own perspective on this subject. Take it or leave it I guess. It is what it is.
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Understood. I’m filing it under anecdote.
 
Roger A. Shrubber

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Skillcraft said:
So it was the national archives fault that both presidents had classified documents? I buy that.
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no, it wasn't the archives fault that either one of them had them, or that anyone else who has ever had them, had them.
responsibility resolves down to the individual responsible for returning them, who did not do so.
i do think that the response to finding them, and the alacrity with which they are returned should be a mitigating factor, but it does not absolve responsibility, or the appropriate penalties. the DOJ should decide if any charges should be made, and a judge will decide what if any penalties are deserved.
i am waiting to see the outcome of either case.
 
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Roger A. Shrubber said:
no, it wasn't the archives fault that either one of them had them, or that anyone else who has ever had them, had them.
responsibility resolves down to the individual responsible for returning them, who did not do so.
i do think that the response to finding them, and the alacrity with which they are returned should be a mitigating factor, but it does not absolve responsibility, or the appropriate penalties. the DOJ should decide if any charges should be made, and a judge will decide what if any penalties are deserved.
i am waiting to see the outcome of either case.
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That is the most even and non political answer I have ever had to a question. You sir must be a rogue scholar.
 
Fogdog

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Dorian2 said:
Peronal experience related to the subject. No documentation at all. That's all I can offer. Just giving you another viewpoint to consider from somebody with some real life experience who does not follow the news a lot. I'm not basing my opinion on concrete, writeen volumes of text, news sites (since I rarely go to them), or abstracts. Just my own perspective on this subject. Take it or leave it I guess. It is what it is.

Considering assumptions @Fogdog just made about my own personal life experience, I'm out guys.

Later
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"No documentation at all." lulz You don't even try to validate your argument. What makes you think your posts are worth reading?

In your posts, you don't differentiate objective facts from subjective opinion or belief. In fact, you devalue objective facts and only value your belief. Basically you are telling us you get your information from navel gazing. You are a cynic as opposed to a skeptic. Skepticism requires evidence of something before they believe. But they don't stop there, they go out and look for the evidence. As you say, you do not trust any information that you don't personally agree with. That is cynicism which focuses on the negative parts of a problem. Rather than look for a solution as a skeptic would do, you deny there is one. Not much value in that.
 
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cannabineer

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Dorian2 said:
This is RIU. Sea stories are king!

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By and large.
However, here in Impolitics we have many instances of folks who say (…) is a fact.

To assess the factuality of (…), what may not be omitted is the detailed provenance of the claim regarding (…). It does much to establish or debunk (…).

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