Best Chem in seed form, one can actually get??

Lizbell said:
I’ve been growing for 15 years and never heard of you, what’s your point
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My point is that these cheesy "breeders" that try and profit off of other's people work by stealing strain names and claiming to be the breeder of strain xyz are a dime a dozen. Trying to make an easy buck off new growers that don't know any better. Greenpoint seeds did not create Stardawg , period.
 
Lizbell said:
He has stardawg f2’s
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Not the real Stardawg, there will be a crazy amount of variation in F2s and few if any will resemble the original Stardawg. Especially if his male plant sucks, which it sounds like it does if the crosses are garbage. Why would anyone buy f2s from some chucker when you can get f4s from the original breeder?
 
Lizbell said:
Drama aside, objectively everything I’ve popped from Gu’s stardawg male has been stellar. Smell, yield, bag appeal, taste and potency have been top notch. I will say the SD male he uses dominates in the progeny but still allows the female donor to come through, I’ve just personally found a lot of SD learners in everything I’ve popped. The best I’ve popped of his is the ogkb and the grape pie crosses, I’ve seen and heard great things about the cookies and chem and copper chem. For the price you can’t go wrong.
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Lizbell said:
Drama aside, objectively everything I’ve popped from Gu’s stardawg male has been stellar. Smell, yield, bag appeal, taste and potency have been top notch. I will say the SD male he uses dominates in the progeny but still allows the female donor to come through, I’ve just personally found a lot of SD learners in everything I’ve popped. The best I’ve popped of his is the ogkb and the grape pie crosses, I’ve seen and heard great things about the cookies and chem and copper chem. For the price you can’t go wrong.
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I'm not aware of any drama, but then again I don't pay attention. Funny how a bit of capitalistic greed can turn a community of 'peace and love' to 'fxck that guy, his stuff tastes like garbage / his stuff herms / he stole it from xxx'.
 
Terpdankistan said:
Not the real Stardawg, there will be a crazy amount of variation in F2s and few if any will resemble the original Stardawg. Especially if his male plant sucks, which it sounds like it does if the crosses are garbage. Why would anyone buy f2s from some chucker when you can get f4s from the original breeder?
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What if he took his male and hit the Corey cut, the f2s would really be stardog ix more or less, right? Price point is main diff. There is a reason JJ is doing a collab with night owl right now with you guessed it, stardawg autos. Gps isn’t as bad as some say imho, I’ve grown a few of them.
Having said all that, I’ve acquired chem dd, dogpatch, lookin for my own grail of chem beans. My fave without growing those yet is ISP chemdbx3, but don’t think they are still available
 
Bodyne said:
What if he took his male and hit the Corey cut, the f2s would really be stardog ix more or less, right? Price point is main diff. There is a reason JJ is doing a collab with night owl right now with you guessed it, stardawg autos. Gps isn’t as bad as some say imho, I’ve grown a few of them.
Having said all that, I’ve acquired chem dd, dogpatch, lookin for my own grail of chem beans. My fave without growing those yet is ISP chemdbx3, but don’t think they are still available
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@Bodyne ISP chemdbx3 how good were these? I brought these back in the day but never got to them. I wonder if I remember where I stored them at.
 
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