So i'm having three different issues so bear with me. I'm gonna explain the main one since this is the setup i plan on using and getting away from soil (cuz i suck at it).
So I'm having problems with this new ebb and flow setup. I've finally dialed down the amount of floods and i've seen some decent growth but not nearly what i'm use to and no where near what I saw with the my Rdwc setup. Before I saw no growth and REALLY shiny leaves. I ended up upping the nutes to 1.0 from .5ish and things started growing but the purple didn't and the stretching didn't stop
Symptoms:
Purple stems, some so purple i've never even seen a pic on Google this purple
hardy stems
Shiny leaves (leathery fake plant looking)
Stretching
Since the plants we're at least a month old I switched to Lucas formula (since i had enough for one rez change)which upped the ec to 1.6. I then started seeing what looks to be burn and some weird spots on the leaves. The purple stems and really weird stretching is still there and bothersome. I recently added some Phosphorus to the lucas formula since i've tried CalMag with no change in the purple stems. Its only been a couple days so I'm hoping it does
Now to my two soil plants
I'm using nutrients from Mbferts.com but recently been flushing because i've seen some changes in the plants i didn't like and i was feeding way too much which i believe was effecting the uptake of nutes. I also flushed because the runoff was in the low 5.s The first plant has yellow blotchy spots and the start on older leaves randomly throughout the plant. I finally fed her with low nutes around .6 ec and i believe the spots are worse now that is been a couple days.
The second soil plant is just fucked and i'm not sure what was going on besides it being root bound and was not taking any nutes and the leaves were droopy and finally started turning yellow. I flushed and things have been shitty every since. It needed water today so I flushed it with some water with calmag since it looks like the deficiency to me. The runoff was still pretty high at 1.2 until a gallon or two before settling with .6ish ec
I was feeding a lot until i read this from mandala seeds
"Check the EC levels of your nutrient solution first and remember that regardless of what is written on the packaging – never feed your plants with more than EC 0.6-0.8 mS/cm (indoor) to 1.0-1.2 mS/cm (outdoor) on soil! This way you will always be on the safe side. For hydroponics consider using lower EC levels (1.0-1.6 mS/cm) and flushing less, instead of heroic dosages that always push the plants to the edge. This is not only more environmentally friendly, healthier, but also means less stress and maintenance problems. - See more at: http://mandalaseeds.com/Guides/Marijuana-Nutrient-Problems#sthash.DMC5AQGT.dpuf"
also
"The more advanced stages of excess nitrogen are accompanied by necrosis on many leaves. First the leaf tips burn and dry up. Rusty brown spots appear between the veins and eventually the entire leaf turns brown and falls off. - See more at: http://mandalaseeds.com/Guides/Marijuana-Nutrient-Problems#sthash.DMC5AQGT.dpuf"
pictures are in order
first two are from the ebb and flow system purple stems
second two is the first soil plant'
third two is the second soil plant (fucked one)
Thanks in advance
So I'm having problems with this new ebb and flow setup. I've finally dialed down the amount of floods and i've seen some decent growth but not nearly what i'm use to and no where near what I saw with the my Rdwc setup. Before I saw no growth and REALLY shiny leaves. I ended up upping the nutes to 1.0 from .5ish and things started growing but the purple didn't and the stretching didn't stop
Symptoms:
Purple stems, some so purple i've never even seen a pic on Google this purple
hardy stems
Shiny leaves (leathery fake plant looking)
Stretching
Since the plants we're at least a month old I switched to Lucas formula (since i had enough for one rez change)which upped the ec to 1.6. I then started seeing what looks to be burn and some weird spots on the leaves. The purple stems and really weird stretching is still there and bothersome. I recently added some Phosphorus to the lucas formula since i've tried CalMag with no change in the purple stems. Its only been a couple days so I'm hoping it does
Now to my two soil plants
I'm using nutrients from Mbferts.com but recently been flushing because i've seen some changes in the plants i didn't like and i was feeding way too much which i believe was effecting the uptake of nutes. I also flushed because the runoff was in the low 5.s The first plant has yellow blotchy spots and the start on older leaves randomly throughout the plant. I finally fed her with low nutes around .6 ec and i believe the spots are worse now that is been a couple days.
The second soil plant is just fucked and i'm not sure what was going on besides it being root bound and was not taking any nutes and the leaves were droopy and finally started turning yellow. I flushed and things have been shitty every since. It needed water today so I flushed it with some water with calmag since it looks like the deficiency to me. The runoff was still pretty high at 1.2 until a gallon or two before settling with .6ish ec
I was feeding a lot until i read this from mandala seeds
"Check the EC levels of your nutrient solution first and remember that regardless of what is written on the packaging – never feed your plants with more than EC 0.6-0.8 mS/cm (indoor) to 1.0-1.2 mS/cm (outdoor) on soil! This way you will always be on the safe side. For hydroponics consider using lower EC levels (1.0-1.6 mS/cm) and flushing less, instead of heroic dosages that always push the plants to the edge. This is not only more environmentally friendly, healthier, but also means less stress and maintenance problems. - See more at: http://mandalaseeds.com/Guides/Marijuana-Nutrient-Problems#sthash.DMC5AQGT.dpuf"
also
"The more advanced stages of excess nitrogen are accompanied by necrosis on many leaves. First the leaf tips burn and dry up. Rusty brown spots appear between the veins and eventually the entire leaf turns brown and falls off. - See more at: http://mandalaseeds.com/Guides/Marijuana-Nutrient-Problems#sthash.DMC5AQGT.dpuf"
pictures are in order
first two are from the ebb and flow system purple stems
second two is the first soil plant'
third two is the second soil plant (fucked one)
Thanks in advance
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