Thanks man!
That's a good point - but I think if she starts to push up on the screen I can just switch to tieing it down instead of suspending it...? I'll have to play it by ear - I'm going to focus on spreading her out and fill up the screen for now. =)
I'm certainly no expert on scrog, but based on my own experience, your screen will definitely lift. My scrog screen is fixed to my tent frame poles and my TD is still pushing it up two plus inches (my screen similar to yours....plastic snow/conrtruction fencing modified to 4" grid pattern).Finally got my screen setup this evening - ended up suspending it from two coat-hangers. The wooden edges should be heavy enough to hold the screen down enough once she starts pushing up from below against the screen... if not, I may need to rethink this idea...lol...tell me what ya'll think! I topped the rez off this evening as well. I've started to move the taller branches out towards the edges so the smaller growth can come up to the canopy top.
I know she's a bit crooked, but it will work I think.
Sounds good, I would tie down the screen now to the bottom horizontal poles (one tie each side) while you have easy access. It gets more complicated as your screen fills. Make sure you give yourself at least a foot above the base of your TD for screen clearance and ease of access for under screen pruning, drip ring access to clean, etc.Thanks dishinit, your comments and knowledge from experience are invaluable! I know I need to tie-back tight that whole screen to the wood edges - once that's done it should take care of that 'sag' it has goin on..lol. I think I'll just deal with the screen 'lifting' as the plant gets bigger - likely with just tie it down to the horiz tent-bars like you said - I'm not too worried about that yet. How long did you veg your TD in the waterfarm for? Mine is is going on ~6 weeks now... I don't care how long it takes to veg to the size I want it to be, but now I'm starting to worry about filling up the screen too fast and running out of room once it goes 12/12... I can see how the screen makes it very easy to 'train' the tops in an outward pattern, allowing the lower nodes of each branch to come up and nicely fill the canopy. The TD seems very easy to bend under the screen - this pheno has been very forgiving to my 'roughness' so far, and seems to always bounce back even stronger when I pinch her stem between the upper nodes. I didn't top this plant at all, even though I had (and still have) many opportunities - I didn't seem like I ever needed to since it was so easy to bend over again and again...
I took another pic this evening of the start of my canopy - started to weave some tops already, and can see the nice lower growth that will be filling in the spaces. Anyone out there think I'm getting close to having to switch to 12/12?
Cheers everyone who's following - enjoy the pic! =)
Awesome dish - thanks again for your advice! Having seen the growth in just the past days and the sudden increase of water/nute intake, I don't think I should wait much longer than about 1 more week before switching her to flowering. I've been tucking branches and tops constantly since putting the screen down, and it's kinda fun to 'help' her spread out and share the canopy - I know what you mean about the main stems being tougher to maneuver - it's much easier to move around the bendy secondary branches and their 'node siblings' as they seem to fight for open space at the top of the screen. And I'll definitely be putting those 2 tie-downs on either side of the screen soon while I can still reach in there to tie things. I've found it very easy to move around under the screen so far actually - it means crawling around, but it's doable. I'm going to buy a long-nosed, large oil funnel to poke down through the top of the canopy to use for topping the rez and replacing the water/nute after a complete change-out. That will be much easier than trying to put it into a small funnel through the plastic tube on the side, or using a low-profile container to pour liquid in through the top of the farm under the screen... I've been following ottermunky's KK grow closely these past months as well - very impressive I must say - I hope mine looks even remotely close to her's by the time it's that far along! Thanks again man - great to know you're following my journal so close - how can I go wrong?
Thank you kriz - Barney's is by far my fav - trust me, you won't be disappointed with the Vanilla Kush. We had such success with it last year that my wife went ahead and purchase more seeds for us to grow again this year - simply amazing stuff, can't wait to see how it turns out in the waterfarm! I'm buying 2 more waterfarms units very soon, and plan to start them in my large tent, one with VK and the other possible a TGA Dairy Queen - still not positive on the second one yet. I've got 2x 600w lights in the big tent and plan to screen-over both of those and fill out the tent with the 2 waterfarms as much as possible - can't wait! Thanks for joining in and for the +rep - welcome!!
That idea crossed my mind at one point, but beside the fact that I don't even own a drill (lol), I don't really want to start making any permanent modifications to the tent like that if I can at all help it. Knowing me, I'd rip a hole in the side of my tent trying to drill a tiny hole in the tent-bar.. ha ha. Nah, I'll likely just do what dish said and tie each side of the screen down to the bottom bars once things start to push up. Thanks for the input though!
Thanks otter - I'm sure you're busy waiting for your recent harvest to dry'n'cure (I know how busy of times that is!!). I agree she's about a week or less away from needing the switch to flowering. I'll most likely do one more rez change-out in the next day or two, bringing the ppms up a bit more, and then 1 week from that time, i'll do one more rez change and flip to 12/12. I'm anticipating about 10 weeks of flowering, but since this is my first hydro grow - that may not be the case. I'm thinking of using some of my trim from under the screen to try and root out some clones...anyone out there want a few TD clones?? For me, it will be building some cloning 'experience' for the future when I plan to have a system where I can actually use them in my setup...Dude, she is looking absolutely wicked! You are right, I would flip her next week, you will have a hard time once you get the surge from flipping her to 12/12 if you let her veg much longer. you would be amazed! I had similar coverage when I flipped her. I have to say man, everything you are doing and are talking about doing is spot on as far as I can see. Thanks for the big up guys! I am still learning too remember so its good, just to make sure, to double check everything I tell you!
I love your grow so far Dayzt. you are very very good at what you are doing, keep it up!
Thanks for stopping by maz - yep, almost at the 'half-way' mark - starting to get more interesting now!
Thank you CT - indeed, it's going to be a good summer!
I'm so impressed with the waterfarm that we're going to be getting 2 more of them in the next month sometime. I'm putting in an RO system in the house since it will be impossible to buy RO water for 3 of these systems... I can't wait to get these units running under my 600w lights in the big tent!
Your pre training is really showing. very nice fill on your plant and better than mine at the same stage. I'm taking notes.Here's a pic update this evening - still spreading this plant to fill the screen. There's a few branches that are moving faster than others and have reached further out towards the edges - but lots of tops are starting to fill in the middle too. After the rez is changed out tomorrow evening and the ppm's bumped up to between 900 - 950, it will be the final week of veg. I'll use 2 gal of add-back solution and once it's gone i'll be flipping the light to 12/12.
Enjoy the pic update - the last one was taken with the light covered to get that darker look. I was almost finished weaving the tops down before these were taken....
Thanks!! I'm still amazed at how easy it is (hydro) and so much cleaner than soil.
Cheers dish - yeah the early LST seems to have really paid off. She was so easy to train early on that it would have been a shame not to take advantage of it. I hear ya with the RO water issue - I think it will be a bit expensive to implement the appropriate size of RO system, but in the long run it will be good to have it in my house for drinking water too, so it will be a worthy investment. If you (or anyone following) know if a recommended RO filteration system, let me know! Thanks for the props - I'm happy with her so far. I feel to be in good hands with all of you watching - it's exciting to think about what she'll look like a few weeks into flower!
Hey Dayzt, I recently bought and installed an Eliminator Medium Reverse Osmosis System (100 Gallons Per Day,) which I'm happy with. It was about $185 with shipping, though I didn't shop around very much.
