Barney's Farm Tangerine Dream Ebb & Flow MicroGarden Grow T5 New Wave Lights

I cant beleive your only slightly frustrated to amused. You have the patience of a saint. You must be doing pretty good in the cash department as well considering all those cool hydroponic setup you got. I have to make all of mine...
very nice setups. Best of luck on your grow.

Let's just say it isn't worth losing sleep and faith in God over. I knew from other stories around the net that it was likely these seeds were worthless. It was my intention to highlight the Attitude pledge with this thread.... Those bastards don't care if the 'souvenirs' germinate or not. On the other hand, Nirvana guarantees them. Contact Nirvana and tell them you had a 0% germ rate and they'll resend your beans...

We'll see with these, but I have my doubts...

Beansly said:

I cant beleive your only slightly frustrated to amused. You have the patience of a saint. You must be doing pretty good in the cash department as well considering all those cool hydroponic setup you got. I have to make all of mine...
very nice setups. Best of luck on your grow.

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Serapis said:

Let's just say it isn't worth losing sleep and faith in God over. I knew from other stories around the net that it was likely these seeds were worthless. It was my intention to highlight the Attitude pledge with this thread.... Those bastards don't care if the 'souvenirs' germinate or not. On the other hand, Nirvana guarantees them. Contact Nirvana and tell them you had a 0% germ rate and they'll resend your beans...

We'll see with these, but I have my doubts...

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I thought that attitude would resend your beans if the didnt germ?

This is sweet guys. I just opened my package from attitude with 5 fem bf td and it came with 5 freebees. 3 from sweet seeds and 2 from female seeds. They are II diavolo fem autoflower, Northern light blue fem, and sugar black rose fem from sweet and the other 2 are xline fast nevilles(supposedly a 8 week flower neville haze) and a cross of white widow and big bud??? Also used the 420 10% code and opted for the coffee mug shipping. Go here in lest than 2 weeks and the mug was cool with a big cali connection picture on it. So the other seeds are a great bonus ,the autoflower for sure, i am so stoked to get the barney farms td!!!!! Like you said man the write up makes you drool and the thc said to be at a minimum 25% and the cbd at 1.8 this shit should blow our minds! Will try to keep up and post with ya'll but i make no promises lmfao i am kind of flighty. . .

so i dont grow from seed very much. Have been growing the same 2 strains i started with. Nirvana Bubblelicious and Aurora Indica and have been cloning them for a long time now. So if i soak tonight how long do ya'll suppose it will take for these bf td to get flowerable?? I seed under 6500k t5s, veg with 600w true mh from digitek, and flower with dual 600w hortilux super hps's. Everything is pretty well climate controlled with all air vented 6in blockbuster hoods. Medium is sunshine mix #4 in 3 gallon pots and we the full line of advanced nutrients nutes from start to finish. I hope like hell these guys flower in the 70 days advertised.

Start soaking tonight and you'll be ready by Spring.... ;p

I really don't know with this strain... I just don't know...

I also grow Bubblelicious and it rocks. I never had a problem out of several seeds now. I have a Bubble mother going and I should probably just go back to doing that. I also have a 5 pack of BF Van Kush that I'm wondering if it is any good. It came from the Tude, so like their UFO's, it's probably DOA... I have had one freebie germinate, the G13 PE. thats it. The Reserva Privada, junk... Dina Fem, junk..... They pick their freebies based on what shit they have lying around.

so i said those free seeds where sweet seeds but i am a stoner so there you go. They are actually from Delicious seeds. Hhahahaha

LOL, nope. You say the G word and they refuse to talk to you or respond to your email. Nirvana on the other hand will dispatch out replacements, pronto. Come to think of it, I'll never order the 'tude again. This was $60 blown.... not to mention the Tee- shirt I did not get... TWICE.... poor, shitty service... bad beans...

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I thought that attitude would resend your beans if the didnt germ?

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You know i bet thats true but i did get a church from greenhouse and that is no junk seed there but my cfl dropped and burnt it up. had a dina fem grapefruit and it was crushed when i got it looked like it was packed that way too but whatever i love the "tude"(lol) Yep the bubble is the shit i got two different phenos growing of the bubble one is light green tall with long skinny blades and the other is short and bushy with dark green short fat blades. The buds are more compact and finishing faster on the dark shorter plants so i think i will lose the other one next round and keep just the short guys. The Aurora is the best shit i have ever smoked. Everyone i let try it swears it must be mixed with hash or something. Also have Jorges diamonds starting will put one in flower next wed should be great smoke. But still cant wait for the td

Hey Serapis! No way your growing TD too


I got my seeds a few weeks ago.... I had odd germinations too... I did the paper towel in a plastic baggie method, on something warm...


Within 20 hours my first seed cracked, and by 48 hours I had 3 of 4 that had sprouted a tap root... The 4th, had cracked yet showed NO tap root.

I germinated the 5th, just to make sure I had enough plants. The 5th seed by 48 hours didn't crack, so I tossed it, by this time I had planted all 4 seeds. Including the one that had simply cracked but not shown tap root.


About 3.5 days later, they were through the soil and I hit them with the light of a 250w MH.

Now I just started Day 8 this morning, and they are looking pretty good.


I'm going to grow them out a bit more til they get properly rooted, then I'm transplanting straight to 3.5gal pots in FFOF. Then for flower I have a 250w hortilux super HPS


I'm going to go snap a few pictures for you now... this strain smells AMAZING! I can rub my leaves, and for a minute smell the most amazing, TROPICAL, tangerine with fresh citrus undertones and god I can't even describe it

The tangerine dreams seem to be some slightly unstable genetics... But it is still early! They are shaky to get on their feet, but I'm guessing once they are on their feet they will take off...

Day 8 Barneys Farm Tangerine Dream

My prime plant.. It smells like a tangerine lollipop seriously! Sooo glad I got this strain now


Interesting Indica Pheno?


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Just so you can see them in action

I hate you Verde......

Most people woulda tossed these seeds by now, I'm going to give them another chance. Monday, if the three that sank but never cracked open aren't showing, I'm going to split the cube in two and have a look see. Any still intact will get the dreaded, hated, stupid, paper towel method. (Sorry, I hate it. it is un-natural) If we don't have something happening by next Friday, this thread is dead..... and so is my Tangerine Dreams... As much as I love oranges and tangerines, I'll NEVER, EVER, NEVER order this strain again. It is far from stable and BF should be ashamed....

Serapis said:

I hate you Verde......

Most people woulda tossed these seeds by now, I'm going to give them another chance. Monday, if the three that sank but never cracked open aren't showing, I'm going to split the cube in two and have a look see. Any still intact will get the dreaded, hated, stupid, paper towel method. (Sorry, I hate it. it is un-natural) If we don't have something happening by next Friday, this thread is dead..... and so is my Tangerine Dreams... As much as I love oranges and tangerines, I'll NEVER, EVER, NEVER order this strain again. It is far from stable and BF should be ashamed....

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I think we just got bad batches man... The sprouts I did get are doing great but 2/5 sprouts is still fuking bad. And you have none. I'm trying some TD beans again I hope you do some day too. Maybe they have it down pack now.

damn man that sucks... but ive been haveing tons of issues with tude's seed hope you see something soon

hey guys dont give up yet. i dont know whats up but i have only had one seed ever not germ. lucky i guess. i have 5 weeks and 3 days til i need to move plants into flower again and am not sure if i should germ these now or wait til the next round and use some clones for the next round. Checked the calander and i will need something to flower on march 30th what do you guys think try and germ or wait one more round? And as far as bad genetics go i read that there are a few different phenotypes for this strain so they will act differently.

need to move into flower room on march 30th. Think i can germ these and make it to flower by then or should i just use some clones for then and wait til the next month for the td? we run a monthly harvest 6 plants a month. 6 in clone/seedling under t5. 6 in veg under digilux 600w mh air cooled. and 12 four weeks apart under 2 600w hortilux super hps. so if they wont make the 30th of march will have to wiat four more weeks but gotta do it right if thats what i need to do.

Sorry to hear you had some bad luck Serapis hope you get at least one sprout i see couple of my bros have stopped by (Mane and Verde ) i germed 2 of my five and got one sprout it is now on day 8 of flower. just took 2 cuttings for clones today an put them in the clone machine so i can at least have a couple more as Verde said the smell from the leaves is awesome especially now that she is flowering, the anticipation is brutal cant wait to see her get frosty
these were taken yesterday morning as you can see she is very sativa dom and tropical looking

The pics you guys have posted look awesome. I do want to try the strain again someday, but I'm about done with BF for now. One more attempt for BF redemption... I just opened a five pack of fem Vanilla Kush. They are soaking now....we'll see.....

The TD are still in cubes.... double checked PH, it's fine, propagator temp is about 77. I'm thinking about putting these in a dome under the sun and get the heat up in there.... maybe thats what these seeds need, tropical heat to germinate... That would make since if the genetics pointed to the equator....

Serapis said:

I hate you Verde......

Most people woulda tossed these seeds by now, I'm going to give them another chance. Monday, if the three that sank but never cracked open aren't showing, I'm going to split the cube in two and have a look see. Any still intact will get the dreaded, hated, stupid, paper towel method. (Sorry, I hate it. it is un-natural) If we don't have something happening by next Friday, this thread is dead..... and so is my Tangerine Dreams... As much as I love oranges and tangerines, I'll NEVER, EVER, NEVER order this strain again. It is far from stable and BF should be ashamed....

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Yeah man I'd definitely keep going!


I had a bean that had NO taproot by the time everyone elses taproot was an INCH...

Now the bean that I planted with no tap root is AHEAD of the ones that had taproots! You never know!


It's an amazing smelling strain from what I can tell. I smelled it and thought, THIS is why it won cannabis cup no doubt.

I agree they are very unstable though! I think they are just seriously picky.


I feel like your one of those people who doesn't fuck around with things, so I feel you on hating the genetics! but it really is a wonderful smell

Perhaps if these don't work out, look for clones in the future?

Just don't give up hope dude! There are people out there getting good results, and there are people getting bad results.. Think positive, these seeds took everyone a while to get going, don't give up so early

I haven't tossed the cubes yet. It's been 9 days though and things aren't looking good for them... Two were already cracked and the taps were coming out when I put them in cubes and those two at least should be showing now.... I have nothing from 5 seeds costing $60. Thanks Barney!! You tarnished your rep with these seeds....