Barney's Farm Tangerine Dream Ebb & Flow MicroGarden Grow T5 New Wave Lights
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Serapis
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We have another TD seed ready for a Grodan Rockwool cube. Since I only have one seed that's cracked enough to remove, I've cut off the tip of a pipette dropper and I use that to suck up the lucky seed.
We have another TD seed ready for a Grodan Rockwool cube. Since I only have one seed that's cracked enough to remove, I've cut off the tip of a pipette dropper and I use that to suck up the lucky seed.
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After picking up the seed, I gently place it in a Rockwool cube, right in the pre-drilled hole. If the seed doesn't come out with the water, just gently thump on the end of the pipette or use more water. It takes a few tries before you get over the nervousness and inject the seed and water simultaneously.
ldachosenonel
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What made you go from a waterfarm to an ebb and flow?
Serapis
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I still have water farms. I needed something to transition several plants from cutting stage to vegetation stage and the MicroGarden seems like the perfect answer. With 10 gallon res and a pump on a timer, I don't have to worry much about it. It can pretty much take care of itself, except for top offs. That was a big plus to me.
ldachosenonel
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What would you recommend for a first time grower. I want to do a two tent set up for a perpetual harvest but im not sure if I want to go with stink buds aero system or al's 4 table ebb and flow. Both seem to have great success. Which ever one I choose will be after I grow one plant in a waterfarm first just to get the hang of things. The one thing I like with stinkbuds system over al's is that I wouldnt have to really trim plants what do you think serapis?
Serapis
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Everybody's grows are different. We all have different goals, requirements, environments, etc. While copying another method that has been successful usually assures us of success, that is not always the case. We have to evaluate variables and see if they fit our own circumstances, if not, adjustments need to be made. I can't tell you what method to pick; but i can suggest based on what I've tried, and I love the Waterfarm. It will remain my main indoor producer. Everything else I do is geared towards them, or growing outside.
Put together a list of pros and cons. Then go with your gut feeling.
Put together a list of pros and cons. Then go with your gut feeling.
ldachosenonel
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I love the waterfarm idea also it seems almost fail proof and it seems to have great success but I dont know how I could incorporate it into a two tent perpetual harvest Im trying to get a harvest every 2 or 3 weeks any ideas?
Serapis
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All 5 seeds are now in cubes. The seeds were soft and swollen after soaking nearly 4 days, so the remaining three are in cubes and in the nice tropical propagator which is on my seedling mat. I have each cube in a 2" net pot to keep it out of the PH'ed water, just enough so that only the bottoms are wicking up moisture as the cube needs it. This will also encourage the roots to follow the water, along with gravity of course. 
Once the seeds germinate, I'll remove the standing water and the dome and transition the seedlings to prepare them for the MicroGarden pots, which are 5.5" square.
Please keep the plants in good thoughts and may good karma follow you around and touch those you care for. I guess now we can chit chat about growing and BF and TD until we have germination. then we can do pics and start updates again.
Once the seeds germinate, I'll remove the standing water and the dome and transition the seedlings to prepare them for the MicroGarden pots, which are 5.5" square.
Please keep the plants in good thoughts and may good karma follow you around and touch those you care for.
I guess now we can chit chat about growing and BF and TD until we have germination. then we can do pics and start updates again.
tendran
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Maybe I will write a song that we can sing to our seedlings.. my jock horror is bent limp after I transplanted it to the new hydroponic getup and I think the power of song may be necessary to revive her. I'll also be starting another seed just in case she doesn't make it.. though it'll upset me to have it behind the skunks progress (since I want to keep them both on the same feeding schedule - unless I encounter resistance). I didn't bother placing my bet cause you already had a 5/5, but I have great faith in your technique by now. Haha
Serapis
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NorthernLights#5
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scribed for sure really wanna see how the dream turns out.. my prayers are with them
tricka
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that waterfarm is crazy Serapis, i wish we had E+F tubs set up like that in Australia, i love the pre-cast channels and sunken fill and drain area's. not to mention the side cavity on the actuall res....very smart set up!!
how heavy will it be with it filled with hydraton? mine is just comfortable on my back when i lift it but then again i gotta line up my drain and fill holes, i want to do a set up change so its more to the side like the waterfarm you have.
and does the bottom res have a seperate 'quick' drain valve somewhere? (like the one i made on mine)
i love the RO set up, that is very nice, i have a spare bathroom in the house but its the guest bathroom/shower and the misses wont allow me to deck it out
...Do you /have you had any leaks with the water plumbing as yet?
how heavy will it be with it filled with hydraton? mine is just comfortable on my back when i lift it but then again i gotta line up my drain and fill holes, i want to do a set up change so its more to the side like the waterfarm you have.
and does the bottom res have a seperate 'quick' drain valve somewhere? (like the one i made on mine)
i love the RO set up, that is very nice, i have a spare bathroom in the house but its the guest bathroom/shower and the misses wont allow me to deck it out
...Do you /have you had any leaks with the water plumbing as yet?
Serapis
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The res on the micro garden is dry. No plants to put in it yet. It does have a quick drain. I need to buy two milk crates, get it lifted off of floor and affix some flex pipe to it. I won't need to lift it once I have it set up the way I want. The top tray will stay in place. I'll use plumbing and or the pump to drain the reservoir.
I made 25 gallons of RO water today. I'm happy to report it was 387 ppm going in, and 000 ppm coming out.
I made 25 gallons of RO water today. I'm happy to report it was 387 ppm going in, and 000 ppm coming out.
Grumpy Old Dreamer
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That's gotta be frustrating the shit out of you Serapis.
My two TDs are doing ok, one is near perfect and the other has a couple of blemishes on the first leaves but may sort itself out as it grows.
My two TDs are doing ok, one is near perfect and the other has a couple of blemishes on the first leaves but may sort itself out as it grows.
Serapis
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It certainly can be a frustrating experience, but I have no expectations. I wrote these seeds off when I started reading of all the problems people were having with this strain/batch.