you've ridden out some very bad weather, the odds are they will recover, may not be pretty for a while
BalZacs Guerrilla Grow NY Style 2011
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doctorwizzy
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caterpillars...and the rest of the questions...?
theexpress
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what r u doing for rbbits/deer?
Balzac89
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im planning another outdoor cropulation and I have a few inquires and would appreciate any speculation....should I: plant the babies in a pot then submerge the pot in the ground, if so about how far in said ground,how does one discreetly transport water to the site,AND how to control and eliminate caterpillars, last year they devastated me..i have BOTH neem oil and something with pyrethrins, as well as an insecticidal soap...oh and what is your form of training to acquire multiple colas, topping confuses me so if you could dumb it down I would be eternally grateful..sorry for the abundance of questions btw
Topping is real easy take a look at your plant. See the new growth at the top of the plant. Remove it. Then where you see two new branches forming where you removed the growth.
You should just plant them straight into the ground instead of into pots in the ground.
Never had any trouble with caterpillars sorry.
doctorwizzy
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how long does I wait til I top?Topping is real easy take a look at your plant. See the new growth at the top of the plant. Remove it. Then where you see two new branches forming where you removed the growth.
You should just plant them straight into the ground instead of into pots in the ground.
Never had any trouble with caterpillars sorry.
MixedMelodyMindBender
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We got tornado's and very heavy rains ...I usually dont plant anything outdoors until may 15th ...I planted last year on May 1 st and lost everything to flash floods....kinda like the ones we got today and are coming again.....Hope all is well....Stay Green
MMMB
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plantvision
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Balzac hope all turns out for you overnight. Our hail season will be coming on soon and a lot of nervous nights ahead.
I still am looking at least two more weeks minimum before going outside. Got a couple questions.
Using 20 oz cups and worried about them going root bound.
And what
should I be doing now as of topping. From what I hear still need at least 2 more growth nodes.
Any input would be appreciated.
Hope it was okay
dropping this here. Did not feel right PMing you again. And really was interested in what you had to say.
Hopefully my pictures turn up okay.
I still am looking at least two more weeks minimum before going outside. Got a couple questions.
Using 20 oz cups and worried about them going root bound.
And what
should I be doing now as of topping. From what I hear still need at least 2 more growth nodes.Any input would be appreciated.
Hope it was okay
dropping this here. Did not feel right PMing you again. And really was interested in what you had to say.Hopefully my pictures turn up okay.
tristynhawk
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A deer carcass wont scare away deer or rabbits it's natural for them to come across corpses on mother nature.I would use liquid fence it's a spray that works great it's good for rabbit's deer groundhogs,possums pretty much any animal that would come in contact with your plants.
Bug control i use liquid spray seven dust applied every two weeks same as liquid fence i don't use powdered form because it's white and highly visible IMO
just putting in my experience with outdoor grows which has pretty much been every year for past 15 years
good growing bro's...tristynhawk
Bug control i use liquid spray seven dust applied every two weeks same as liquid fence i don't use powdered form because it's white and highly visible IMO
just putting in my experience with outdoor grows which has pretty much been every year for past 15 years
good growing bro's...tristynhawk
1badmasonman
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Heres a hot tip. Get ya some 3 ft bamboo rods. Dig a large hole 2 x 2 at the minimum, the larger the better for 2 reasons which ill get into. All animals can sense when the earth is disturbed and that is how they find grubs moles ect.. With you large hole pre dug ad in your compost or manure quanos ect and let the lil bastards have there way with your hole for a few days. Most of the curiosity on the critters behalf will be satisfied after exploring the glory hole and that will be all the more it will have any inetrest in your spot. You gotta get in there minds for real bro. Now after a day or 2 go add in your soil and top off your hole. . Take your clone or seedling and plant it dead center of your loosely filled hole. I like to get a good root ball gloing on the clone before this stage and ill explain why. After you plant your clone take the 3 ft bamboo rod and shove it right through the rootball as tight to the main stalk as possible. It takes some patience and care but you want a snug fit, shove the rod down till you have only 16" of it above ground. Take a bread tie and tie your clone to the bamboo rod snug but not to tight. You still need room for the growth to come so just snug will do.
I add systemic granules to my soil as a top dressing then water and come back in a few days to check up.
Heres the fun part
Like i said the bigger the hole you dig the better go at least 2 ft deep and make it wider at the top, The critters especially deer are going to get real nosey, atleast the ones who didnt feast on your hole before you planted. They wanna know what the fuck is in that hole. Now with all that loose soil they take a step in and sink up to there fkn chest haha and still cant figure it out hahaha. atleast 5 holes had some hairs stuck to the top of the bamboo rods where the deer did a face plant on the stake but not the precious tender clone Im telling you ive sat and watched them paw around several of my holes only to get confused and run off. They can and will put hooves right up on your shit but that tall stake bamboo rod acts as a shelter for your youngling The deer wants nothing to do with that bamboo and your clone hides out tough right there. Out of 50 holes ive only lost 1 so far. and it just got the roots pulled up whicj i replanted. We shall see if it makes it here soon.
This is the best method ive ever tried and im not even putting out soap and mothballs at all. Just a fkn bamboo rod hahah. Its so simple that it works.
Now with the wider hole the deer will just hit soft dirt well before trampling your clone and likely figure whatever dug that big of whole could surely eat his ass so they split. Seen it with me own eyes
good luck didnt mean to jack your thread just wanted to share a tried and true method that is working hella good 
1BMM
I add systemic granules to my soil as a top dressing then water and come back in a few days to check up.
Heres the fun part
Like i said the bigger the hole you dig the better go at least 2 ft deep and make it wider at the top, The critters especially deer are going to get real nosey, atleast the ones who didnt feast on your hole before you planted. They wanna know what the fuck is in that hole. Now with all that loose soil they take a step in and sink up to there fkn chest haha and still cant figure it out hahaha. atleast 5 holes had some hairs stuck to the top of the bamboo rods where the deer did a face plant on the stake but not the precious tender clone Im telling you ive sat and watched them paw around several of my holes only to get confused and run off. They can and will put hooves right up on your shit but that tall stake bamboo rod acts as a shelter for your youngling The deer wants nothing to do with that bamboo and your clone hides out tough right there. Out of 50 holes ive only lost 1 so far. and it just got the roots pulled up whicj i replanted. We shall see if it makes it here soon.This is the best method ive ever tried and im not even putting out soap and mothballs at all. Just a fkn bamboo rod hahah. Its so simple that it works.
Now with the wider hole the deer will just hit soft dirt well before trampling your clone and likely figure whatever dug that big of whole could surely eat his ass so they split. Seen it with me own eyes
good luck didnt mean to jack your thread just wanted to share a tried and true method that is working hella good 1BMM
sonar
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I do it almost the exact same way. Although I prefer holes a little bigger. I grow far less plants so I like them a little bigger. Fewer plants means less work and tending to. But I digress. I always dig my holes and fill them with soil at least a few days before I put plants in them. I had problems in the past with various rodents digging at my roots and stems. I feel the same way about them wanting to explore the new upturned soil in their territory. I also do the same thing with the bamboo stakes and the twist ties, but I usually get the longer stakes. I still do the soap and mothball trick though. Might be unnecessary, but it seems like it worked in the past and I've seen a lot of other vet growers do it. Even if it only works temporarily, my hope is that it works long enough for the plants to get big enough that a little nibbling won't be devestating.Heres a hot tip. Get ya some 3 ft bamboo rods. Dig a large hole 2 x 2 at the minimum, the larger the better for 2 reasons which ill get into. All animals can sense when the earth is disturbed and that is how they find grubs moles ect.. With you large hole pre dug ad in your compost or manure quanos ect and let the lil bastards have there way with your hole for a few days. Most of the curiosity on the critters behalf will be satisfied after exploring the glory hole and that will be all the more it will have any inetrest in your spot. You gotta get in there minds for real bro. Now after a day or 2 go add in your soil and top off your hole. . Take your clone or seedling and plant it dead center of your loosely filled hole. I like to get a good root ball gloing on the clone before this stage and ill explain why. After you plant your clone take the 3 ft bamboo rod and shove it right through the rootball as tight to the main stalk as possible. It takes some patience and care but you want a snug fit, shove the rod down till you have only 16" of it above ground. Take a bread tie and tie your clone to the bamboo rod snug but not to tight. You still need room for the growth to come so just snug will do.
I add systemic granules to my soil as a top dressing then water and come back in a few days to check up.
Heres the fun part
This is the best method ive ever tried and im not even putting out soap and mothballs at all. Just a fkn bamboo rod hahah. Its so simple that it works.
Now with the wider hole the deer will just hit soft dirt well before trampling your clone and likely figure whatever dug that big of whole could surely eat his ass so they split. Seen it with me own eyes
I have another trick which I think works great. I'm sure I'm not the first person to think of this, but this is a little technique I developed myself. Since most commercial repellants contain some sort of pepper, I decided to make my own. I take a small plastic bottle (any size will do, I usually use something 16-24oz) and fill it with water. I add about a teaspoon of cayenne pepper and a teaspoon of garlic powder. Shake it up and let it sit a day or two then strain it into a spray bottle. You need to strain it or else the solids will clog up your spray bottle. I spray this mix all around the plants usually every time I'm out there watering or tending to the plants. Be careful not to get any in your eyes because this shit is like mace. The best part is, you can even give the plants a light misting, so if any critters decide to give them a nibble, they get blasted with garlic and cayenne. I never actually soaked the leaves with it, but a light misting doesn't damage them at all. Obviously, I wouldn't use it late in flowering, but by then you tend to have more problems with bugs and mold than animals.
1badmasonman
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Cool so now its a confirmed method that works by 2 of us so far. I may give that cayenne trick a day in the field . Although the systemic granules im using is a pest control product that the plant actually takes up through its roots and into the leaves. Could be yet another reason the critter are leaving my shit alone this year 
bud nugbong
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That WW is gona be a beast. things huge already. im subd