Balls to the Wall grow, Riddleme Gets Serious

whodatnation

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(will have to play with it a bit to dial in the perfect temp/humidity combos)
I find that a high humidity and lower temp works best for me. So @ 60-65% and 60-65.F it takes my larger more dens buds atleast 10-15 days before I start to cure. I also leave a good portion of the stem on to help get a slow even distribution of moisture. Love your thread and all of the info you dish-out.... Thanks for taking the time to document all of your work for all to see. ^^^just my 2cents^^^
I'l def sub-up.
 

riddleme

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I find that a high humidity and lower temp works best for me. So @ 60-65% and 60-65.F it takes my larger more dens buds atleast 10-15 days before I start to cure. I also leave a good portion of the stem on to help get a slow even distribution of moisture. Love your thread and all of the info you dish-out.... Thanks for taking the time to document all of your work for all to see. ^^^just my 2cents^^^
I'l def sub-up.
Thank you and welcome aboard
 

rastadred22

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After having a discussion with riddleme about his post on fermentation...https://www.rollitup.org/newbie-central/316301-calling-all-noob-growers-41.html ...i asked if i can perform this during the 2-3day dark period right be4 i harvest... this hasnt been tested be4 so i said hey y not?!
The theory is that if you suffocate...rid the root system of oxygen it will eventually start to ferment...which is what we are accomplishing when jar curing.

So I filled a bucket with water and proceeded to dunk the tree, pot and all into the bucket of water making sure the water level was pretty much right where the soil and stalk meet.(Literraly 20mins after doing this the smell coming from my tree amplified smelling my room out with its sweet fuity smell!) i left my tree in the bucket during a 12hr light period, its last!

When doing this the tree drinks up alooot of water! i mean in about 12hours the water level dropped about an inch and i had to top the water off. After keeping a close eye on the water level after the 2nd day it hadnt dropped much, this basically means that the process has begun :hump:...

the smell after the second day had subsided alot but i gave my nuggz a squeeze they feel a bit more solid and the nuggz are starting to give off a different smell its almost completely different then be4...
So basically what this has proven is that the dark period has sped this process up alot!

i will report bac in another day or two..i will be chopping in 2..
 

riddleme

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Here is what I can tell you after playing with the new toy all day,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

YOU WANT ONE!!!

imagine a jar that you could burp with the touch of a button, imagine that the temp & humidity in the jar are dialed to perfection, imagine the best buds you ever tasted :bigjoint:

For those of you that have had a harvest, you know the drill you hang em, they get crispy, you put em in the jar and they get wet, cause the moisture in the middle gets pulled out by the jar,,,,,well that is what happened I put em in the chamber and they wetted up within hours (they were never hung) the humidity went up to 53%. Now I have it so I can change the fan speed via a rheostat (they are 12 volt fans and I can dial the voltage down to 4.4, basically a third of the speed) I started out with the fans set to lowest speed, when the humidity went to 53 I turned the temp up to 75 and the humidity came down to 49, I put my hand under the pile o bud and I could feel heat. So I turned the fans up to full speed, this was where it got fun, it created a vaccum in the chamber so much so it sucks the doors shut when you get em close to being closed and it pulled the humidity down to 43 within 20 minutes, then I slowed the fans back down and the humidity continued to drop (down to 37%) so I lowered the temp back to 72, it went slowly back up (took about 2 hours) to 39% then I turned the fans off and it is now at 44% ,,,,,playing with it has been a blast and it is so cool to have complete and total control over what they are doing :bigjoint:

Now after the humidity had been pulled down the outside edges of the buds started getting crispy, hence why I am letting it build up again. There are 3 pics 1st is when they went in last night, 2nd was this morning and 3rd was this afternoon after I turned the pile over, you can see that the leaves are wrapping around the buds (what I want em to do) and that they are already changing colors and the buds themselves are simply beautiful, this is gonna be one hell of a smoke report LOL

Enjoy as always
 

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riddleme

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After having a discussion with riddleme about his post on fermentation...https://www.rollitup.org/newbie-central/316301-calling-all-noob-growers-41.html ...i asked if i can perform this during the 2-3day dark period right be4 i harvest... this hasnt been tested be4 so i said hey y not?!
The theory is that if you suffocate...rid the root system of oxygen it will eventually start to ferment...which is what we are accomplishing when jar curing.

So I filled a bucket with water and proceeded to dunk the tree, pot and all into the bucket of water making sure the water level was pretty much right where the soil and stalk meet.(Literraly 20mins after doing this the smell coming from my tree amplified smelling my room out with its sweet fuity smell!) i left my tree in the bucket during a 12hr light period, its last!

When doing this the tree drinks up alooot of water! i mean in about 12hours the water level dropped about an inch and i had to top the water off. After keeping a close eye on the water level after the 2nd day it hadnt dropped much, this basically means that the process has begun :hump:...

the smell after the second day had subsided alot but i gave my nuggz a squeeze they feel a bit more solid and the nuggz are starting to give off a different smell its almost completely different then be4...
So basically what this has proven is that the dark period has sped this process up alot!

i will report bac in another day or two..i will be chopping in 2..
Thank you for doing this experiment and thank you for sharing :)
 

rastadred22

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damn! does that mean u can successfully do dry and cure within a matter of hours or days with the same results as a 2week dry and a 2week cure?
 

riddleme

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damn! does that mean u can successfully do dry and cure within a matter of hours or days with the same results as a 2week dry and a 2week cure?
don't know yet? hence my playing with it, but I want em to dry slowly, these borrowed buds were not drowned so not sure how long it will take but I can definately smell em curing :) and there are no filters on the chamber (though it would be easy to add some) and it is not stinking up the house or even the room they are in, which is a very good thing so far
 

rastadred22

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it hasnt bene chopped yet..it appears the fermentation has begun by the smell of the plant but riddle suggested a day or two more so they can run through the process even more so after i chop and dry ill try one with out a cure...ive dried a branch of the plant be4 the drowning and smoked it so i will compare
 

rastadred22

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btw i take that bac my room def does still stink! i went to the store real qwik came bac and u can def. smell her looming in my closet!
 

Danielsgb

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I'm planning on trying that on with one of my two at 50 some days into flowering. One strain will take a week maybe 2 longer. I have to re-read it to make sure I have it down.
BTW RiddleMe ah, Thanks, now I have a new DIY to add to the collection. Check out my build journal if you get time. My FrigiDare is getting into testing now.
Daniels:weed:
 
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