Balls to the Wall grow, Riddleme Gets Serious
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buzzpopper
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Very interested in this.
Couple of questions so as to not confuse myself. What are the temp differences in the 400w CMH vs 400w HPS. Is it running that much cooler and that is the reason for the non air cooled hood or is it because there is enough air flow in your set up because it is not enclosed? What are the temp diffs that you are shooting for optimum energy to growth transitions?
Thanks in advance
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Couple of questions so as to not confuse myself. What are the temp differences in the 400w CMH vs 400w HPS. Is it running that much cooler and that is the reason for the non air cooled hood or is it because there is enough air flow in your set up because it is not enclosed? What are the temp diffs that you are shooting for optimum energy to growth transitions?
Thanks in advance
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riddleme
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Not sure I follow you, I have never owned an HPS bulb, so I do not know the difference other than my research into the CMH said it was a lot cooler. when left on it raises the temp in my basement 2 degrees, now these last few days it has been upper 90's outside and so the temp has gone up to 78 (from 76) I will be shooting for a 10 degree difference between lights on and lights off, I will be supplimenting infrared heat to control this but also to prove/disprove a theory I have which I will write more about this weekend
Welcome aboard
Welcome aboard
cowboylogic
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And you cannot forget the fact your grow room is in your basement. Basements offer the benefit of thermo mass to help buffer temperature variances.
Old Goat
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This is getting good now. I'm glad there will be folks to bounce ?'s off of.
I started my 400 a few weeks back and haven't looked back in any degree. I MHO two of these will do you better job than a 1000 HPS/MH
I know the light is for my plants but as the care taker I like it too. It's color is natural and oh so clear. When you're given your ladies an exam you'll be able to watch your crop more closely.
I've taken a couple of heat readings on mine. It really depends on how you handle the heat. I'm using my light with a reflector with a PC fan(78 cfm) to move the air around the cabinet. I've an average temp 6* difference between outside air and inside air using 2 120x120 &110cfm on top & bottom.
Riddleme, Thank You for starting this grow. I've read some other of your work and have learned. You name will add credience to the CMH..
I started my 400 a few weeks back and haven't looked back in any degree. I MHO two of these will do you better job than a 1000 HPS/MH
I know the light is for my plants but as the care taker I like it too. It's color is natural and oh so clear. When you're given your ladies an exam you'll be able to watch your crop more closely.
I've taken a couple of heat readings on mine. It really depends on how you handle the heat. I'm using my light with a reflector with a PC fan(78 cfm) to move the air around the cabinet. I've an average temp 6* difference between outside air and inside air using 2 120x120 &110cfm on top & bottom.
Riddleme, Thank You for starting this grow. I've read some other of your work and have learned. You name will add credience to the CMH..
legalizeitcanada
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Cant wait to see how the infrared works out dude.......enjoying the read....thanx!!
riddleme
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Exactly why I bought the house, better/easier control of my garden
Not sure I'll add much, I have been saying CMH on this forum for sometime now, true this is the first grow with it and true starting the CMH club and getting a group going has helped spread the word IMO RIU is behind other forums on this
as far as questions go, you should read my Calling all noob growers thread and join the conversations there,,,we pretty much discuss everything/anything, a lot of good info there as a result
welcome aboard and yes I have high hopes for this experiment, we'll see if I'm right???
riddleme
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The first plant to pop has been upcanned, (others will get done tomorrow) the runt still not doing anything and still waiting for the 2 I added to pop (prolly monday)
put it in a 6 inch coir pot (no I will not be planting it) I had em, so figured I'd use em as they are the perfect size for getting things started
I put it on a homer bucket so it would be where it is gonna be (distance from light) once in the big pot. We will now see how it responds to the light?
put it in a 6 inch coir pot (no I will not be planting it) I had em, so figured I'd use em as they are the perfect size for getting things started
I put it on a homer bucket so it would be where it is gonna be (distance from light) once in the big pot. We will now see how it responds to the light?
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chainseeker
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Sometimes if I have a runt it seems like throwing it in flower for a bit makes it take off again.
This only happened twice though. 2 out of 2 so far.
This only happened twice though. 2 out of 2 so far.
DoinIt2Gether
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lol yup they will grow if u put em in flower, every time!
SensiStan
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Ah cool i forgot you were growing, just stumbled across your thread cant believe i havent posted yet lol 
Looking so very cool and interesting in every aspect, i'm glad you have started all this coolness now as having pretty much done my first grow i have learnt loads and now i have the chance to learn a whole lot more
excellent !
Having seen what everyone has to say on the whole CMH subject over the last few months i think i am also sold, i have experienced first hand and all too well how the HPS light distorts your view of buds and progress. So already my next grow will certainly be with a CMH, and i may even be able to go up to 400w with a cooltube in my space
Thanks for yet another goldmine of information and +rep
Looking so very cool and interesting in every aspect, i'm glad you have started all this coolness now as having pretty much done my first grow i have learnt loads and now i have the chance to learn a whole lot more
excellent ! Having seen what everyone has to say on the whole CMH subject over the last few months i think i am also sold, i have experienced first hand and all too well how the HPS light distorts your view of buds and progress. So already my next grow will certainly be with a CMH, and i may even be able to go up to 400w with a cooltube in my space
Thanks for yet another goldmine of information and +rep
riddleme
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GOT CMH???
I went to check on my new baby to see how it was adjusting to more light? this was about an hour and a half after I upcanned it. I noticed it was sparkling so I went and got my loupe and low and behold there are trichs forming on the little tiny leafs
took lots of pics trying to get a good closeup so you could see what I see, hard to do with tiny things LOL, ended up using the loupe over the camera lens and this was the best I could get, but at least you can see it
PS I should note that the infrared is not on yet
I went to check on my new baby to see how it was adjusting to more light? this was about an hour and a half after I upcanned it. I noticed it was sparkling so I went and got my loupe and low and behold there are trichs forming on the little tiny leafs
took lots of pics trying to get a good closeup so you could see what I see, hard to do with tiny things LOL, ended up using the loupe over the camera lens and this was the best I could get, but at least you can see it
PS I should note that the infrared is not on yet
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riddleme
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Ok now I am just playing with the light meter again, but I wanted to show you the power of CFL's and why they work for growing, as well as why we say to put them 1 to 2 inches away
there are 2 pics per bulb, one at one inch and one at two inches, there are 4 bulbs, a 13 watt, a 23 watt, a 42 watt and a 65 watt
Enjoy
there are 2 pics per bulb, one at one inch and one at two inches, there are 4 bulbs, a 13 watt, a 23 watt, a 42 watt and a 65 watt
Enjoy
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Illumination
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GOT CMH???
I went to check on my new baby to see how it was adjusting to more light? this was about an hour and a half after I upcanned it. I noticed it was sparkling so I went and got my loupe and low and behold there are trichs forming on the little tiny leafs
took lots of pics trying to get a good closeup so you could see what I see, hard to do with tiny things LOL, ended up using the loupe over the camera lens and this was the best I could get, but at least you can see it
PS I should note that the infrared is not on yet
I noticed those lil glands at the beginning of my babies sprouting...It seems to diminish as it gets older...Seems they are further apart and therefore harder to see?
My Mary is looking bad but maybe is improving...Alice looking great...will update it soon
Namaste'
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desertrat
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approximately what Kelvin were the lights - 2700 or 6500?
riddleme
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correct meter reads up to 10000 lumens, desertrat is going to compare my readings with his better meter to see how close my cheapo is, that is why I did this
riddleme
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the 23 watter was 6500K the other 3 are 2700K, I also believe that the diminished reading on the 65 watter is because it is the one I used to grow Matilda, therefore was on for many hours, the others are new
Rocky Mountain High
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Right on Riddle, thanks for the updates and the info, great stuff happening in here !
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