socalrican
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Great looking plants and setups ! +rep! 
Balls Out First Grow(Whie Widow Scrog, 430w Son Agro Aircooled, DWC, CO2)
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Integra21
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thanks, glad you like it. Any questions, feel free to ask.Great looking plants and setups ! +rep!
Medical MJ Cures Cancer
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Hey just finished reading all your posts and i have a few ?'s
1. How much did you end up getting off that outdoor piss or did it all have bud rot problems?
2. How much did your electric bill go up?
3. Do you feel its necessary to supplement co2 if you have good ventilation?
4.When do you plan on chopping down that mango? My dude had some mango a while back and i picked up an 8th from him, (it looked exactly like you buds btw) and i would have to say it was the best tasting ive ever had!!!! Also i would like to see how well the one plant harvest stacks up to the last one you had! Its looking good from what i see
Any way thanks for your time and all the detail you've put in these posts!
Integra21
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1. The total yield on the outdoor Piss was around 9oz, but 2oz of that had bud mold.
2.My electric bill went up about $50 a month?
3.Co2 is almost never nessasary, but it is certainly beneficial it you have a means of doing it. the poorer your intake of fresh air into the room, the more it will help, and if your doing a full sealed room and enriching to 1500ppm, it will help speed up the growth of your girls.
4. Mango is getting chopped down in about a week to 10 days. I have cut all my other plants a little early(10%amber) because I enjoy the more awake head high, but I'm letting this one go till 50% amber. Looking for a nice heavy stone, just for variety sake. Glad you like Mango, i have tried a few buds that I dehydrate, and they are getting pretty good, and I've found through expierience, that if its good out of the dehydrator, its amazing when dried and cured properly. I will be starting my flush about mid week this week. Doing a 7 day flush(all you need with hydro), the first 3 days will be with molasses water and the last 4 days will be with strait ro water.
Medical MJ Cures Cancer
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Yea the only other way I've heard is put it in a tupper ware container with a dry paper towel on the bottom and a wet on the top and put it in the microwave on the lowest setting for one miniute at a time taking it out in between and letting it sit on another dry paper towel till it cools then repeat. If the buds small it should only take a couple of times and it seems to keep some of the taste. I've done it a few times in emergancy situations where the plants needed harvested due to stuff like your bug problem and like bud rot and shit and helped me tell in a few mins
But anyway what do you have going in to your new room and whens that gonna be finished im thinking about a 600w for a buddys set up on a track cuz hes got a long narrow space kinda like yours
Integra21
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yeah, i've heard about the microwave before. i use the dehydrator because ihad it laying around. i run it at 105F for 24 hours.the new setup is going to be essentially double what ialready have with upgrades of using dual 600w lights and running a c02 generator on a controller.
Medical MJ Cures Cancer
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Hey what up havn't heard from you in a while hows that mango doing?
tom__420
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That should be an awesome setup bro, can't wait to see it when its all finished up
DST
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Hi Intega, All the best for 2010. Good work on your new builds, looks like an Apple Mac grow room! Shame you got mites on that Mango, I have got 2 little mangos that I put out from seed a couple of weeks ago. Hopefully one of them will be a girly. Been busy today adding a MH to my HPS so looking forward to seeing what that does. I am still in vegg so some time to go yet. Thinking of switching over in a week or so. Did I read correctly that you are going up too 600 in your flower room, or was that you buddies build. We have a 600 Club going if you care to join us on that thread.
Peace and happy growing bru,
DST
Peace and happy growing bru,
DST
Subtlechaos
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Wow! This is one of the best grow journals I've ever seen. VERY WELL PUT TOGETHER! Thank you, for this post. +rep.
Integra21
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Yeah, been really busy the last couple of weeks. I am currently on the second day of flushing and will be harvesting on tuesday. I am flushing with molasses water for the first 4 days, and doing strait ro water for the last 3. The buds havent grown much and my camera is out for repair so no pics yet. Hopefully I will get it back before harvest because I am hesitant to take them with my phone because I dont want to upload geotagged pics, kind of a security risk. But I'll figure something out so you guys can at least see the chopp photos.
Integra21
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You and me both. I waiting on a check to get it all going, but it should be here any time.That should be an awesome setup bro, can't wait to see it when its all finished up
Integra21
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If your mango is anything like mine, your going to love it. Frostier than my widow. And yes you read correctly, I looking to go from a single 400w to dual 600w's and my buddy's is going to be the same. As soon as I get the lights up, I'll start posting in the 600w club. Thanks for the invite, glad you guys started one up, I was going to if no one had by the time mine was set up.
Integra21
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Glad you like it, and there will be more to come. As soon as this Mango finishes up, I have 4 Blue Kush clones going in, and hopefully I wont kill them this time.
cazador
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Integra - I followed you over from Bobs grow. Just got through your first page and I like what I see very much and would have liked to have checked it out sooner hope it's not to late.
rep+ for all the good work and the help I've seen you giving. I'm subscribing.... I'll be back when I catch up. I'm a slow reader.
rep+ for all the good work and the help I've seen you giving. I'm subscribing.... I'll be back when I catch up. I'm a slow reader.
Integra21
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Cool, take your time. There is a lot of word, but there is even more pics. If you make it all the way though, you wont be disappointed.And its not to late. I dont start new journals, I just keep an ongoing one. About to have a huge update within the next week that will show all of the changes in great detail. I'm supposed to get my camera back on monday, so that will help. Sucks its been gone for a month, didnt get any harvest pics or construction shots so far. But I'll make up for that when I get it back, cause lets face it, everyone loves pics, thats the only reason most people come back to a thread. To sum things up, Im glad to have you on board. seems like you really try to help when you can, and thats what these communities are all about. Glad you could try to help bob out, since i always try to give him some options, but have been so busy these last few days.
Integra21
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Mini Update-
On monday, the 11th, I harvested my Mango. By far, was my saddest harvest so far. The mites had eaten anything that resembled a fan leaf within the first 4 weeks of flower. I feel this greatly effected my harvest. I also switched from the foxfarm trio back to my Technaflora set halfway through flower since even with a pump, the solids would settle and seriously damage the roots on the bottom of the tub. It seemed like the plant took weeks to recover from this and also affected my harvest. To top all of that off, as a lesson to all of the new kids, it seems if your plants loose every fan leaf on them, they cant handle full strength flower nutes. Looking back, that should have been obvious, but it wasnt. I has them at 1100ppm's for weeks and the ppm's wouldnt drop at all untull i got the pps to 800 or below. I feel like this also effected the harvest. all of that being said, the plants were fully dry as of yesterday(friday). The final weight came out to 47g's. The smell now, without curing, is fantastic. Supre friuty. not really a specific fruit smell, but more like fruit salad. Everyone who took a wiff, face lit up and said they had never smelled weed that smelled that good, I agree with them. And since they just went into jars today, I can only see it getting better. The taste is a different story. It does taste good, even though it hsnt cured yet. It is only disappointing because it doesnt taste like it smells or even like fruit at all. It is a very earthy taste and thats the only word I have to describe it. I have never tasted anything even close to it in my 27 years of life, and have no way of comparing it to something. Hopefully it will get more a a fruity flavor from curing. So under the circumstances, I am very plased that I still got some killer herb, despite all of the problems. Forgot to mention that the smoke is a very stron high/stoned mix that is pretty balanced. Gives you a soaring head high with an almost equal body buzz, no drowsyness though. The high lasts for about 3 hours.
On to the new stuff. Anyone familiar with my thread has a basic idea of my equipment. Well, over the last week, all of it has changed. I have upgraded from my 430w Agro to dual 600w's. Went with the Lumatek dual 600w dimmable running Ushio Opti Red's in SuperSun2 reflectors. Also changed out the constant intake for a sealed room. I added a 12,000btu portable ac that has dual hose so it wont suck out my co2. It is also a 12,000btu heater, dehumidifier, and air ionizer, which the plants have always loved and helps with the smell. I also changed out the squirel cage fan I had on my light for a 6" can fan, and put it on a controller, since 250cfm seemed excessive for my 10ft duct run. Kept my dwc tubs the same, but now there is 2 of them. The plan is to stager the flower by 1 month and have a harvest from 1 light roughly every month. Liked the idea of a constant supply more than a bulk kick every 2 months. I also changed from my bottled co2 on a timmer to a Hydrogen MiniGen that I will we water cooling with drain to waste tap water, and it is being controlled by a Setinel CPPM1 CO2 controller. Will be nice to see how my setup does with dialed in co2, instead of random bursts that got diluted quickly by the constant intake. Another product I'm putting to the test now is Lightning film. I normally use regular mylar around the plants, but it is thin and rips easily and is a bitch to keep clean. The new stuff is almost as thick as a tarp and is supposed to be completely washable. also has groves in it like a reflector, so it might have better light distibutiuon, but hot spots were never a problem for me. My old screen was 3'x3', the new one will be 3.5'x8'. Still have to build it and hang the lights and fans, but that will all be done by the upcomming weekend hopefully. Thats about it for the upgrades. For anyone who didnt know, my camera has been at the shop for a month, but I'm suposed to get it back tomorrow. Once the room is finished, I will do a big update on all of these upgades at work. I am going to be running Blue Kush under both lights this round, since I lost my Mango, Blue Mystic, and Mazar mom's to the basterd mites. I am currently regowing new ones from seeds in my new veg room. So bear with me guys, I hate having an update with no pics, its not my style. But I'll try to make up for it with a badass update within the next week. As always, if you have any questions or comments, feel free to ask or post.
On monday, the 11th, I harvested my Mango. By far, was my saddest harvest so far. The mites had eaten anything that resembled a fan leaf within the first 4 weeks of flower. I feel this greatly effected my harvest. I also switched from the foxfarm trio back to my Technaflora set halfway through flower since even with a pump, the solids would settle and seriously damage the roots on the bottom of the tub. It seemed like the plant took weeks to recover from this and also affected my harvest. To top all of that off, as a lesson to all of the new kids, it seems if your plants loose every fan leaf on them, they cant handle full strength flower nutes. Looking back, that should have been obvious, but it wasnt. I has them at 1100ppm's for weeks and the ppm's wouldnt drop at all untull i got the pps to 800 or below. I feel like this also effected the harvest. all of that being said, the plants were fully dry as of yesterday(friday). The final weight came out to 47g's. The smell now, without curing, is fantastic. Supre friuty. not really a specific fruit smell, but more like fruit salad. Everyone who took a wiff, face lit up and said they had never smelled weed that smelled that good, I agree with them. And since they just went into jars today, I can only see it getting better. The taste is a different story. It does taste good, even though it hsnt cured yet. It is only disappointing because it doesnt taste like it smells or even like fruit at all. It is a very earthy taste and thats the only word I have to describe it. I have never tasted anything even close to it in my 27 years of life, and have no way of comparing it to something. Hopefully it will get more a a fruity flavor from curing. So under the circumstances, I am very plased that I still got some killer herb, despite all of the problems. Forgot to mention that the smoke is a very stron high/stoned mix that is pretty balanced. Gives you a soaring head high with an almost equal body buzz, no drowsyness though. The high lasts for about 3 hours.
On to the new stuff. Anyone familiar with my thread has a basic idea of my equipment. Well, over the last week, all of it has changed. I have upgraded from my 430w Agro to dual 600w's. Went with the Lumatek dual 600w dimmable running Ushio Opti Red's in SuperSun2 reflectors. Also changed out the constant intake for a sealed room. I added a 12,000btu portable ac that has dual hose so it wont suck out my co2. It is also a 12,000btu heater, dehumidifier, and air ionizer, which the plants have always loved and helps with the smell. I also changed out the squirel cage fan I had on my light for a 6" can fan, and put it on a controller, since 250cfm seemed excessive for my 10ft duct run. Kept my dwc tubs the same, but now there is 2 of them. The plan is to stager the flower by 1 month and have a harvest from 1 light roughly every month. Liked the idea of a constant supply more than a bulk kick every 2 months. I also changed from my bottled co2 on a timmer to a Hydrogen MiniGen that I will we water cooling with drain to waste tap water, and it is being controlled by a Setinel CPPM1 CO2 controller. Will be nice to see how my setup does with dialed in co2, instead of random bursts that got diluted quickly by the constant intake. Another product I'm putting to the test now is Lightning film. I normally use regular mylar around the plants, but it is thin and rips easily and is a bitch to keep clean. The new stuff is almost as thick as a tarp and is supposed to be completely washable. also has groves in it like a reflector, so it might have better light distibutiuon, but hot spots were never a problem for me. My old screen was 3'x3', the new one will be 3.5'x8'. Still have to build it and hang the lights and fans, but that will all be done by the upcomming weekend hopefully. Thats about it for the upgrades. For anyone who didnt know, my camera has been at the shop for a month, but I'm suposed to get it back tomorrow. Once the room is finished, I will do a big update on all of these upgades at work. I am going to be running Blue Kush under both lights this round, since I lost my Mango, Blue Mystic, and Mazar mom's to the basterd mites. I am currently regowing new ones from seeds in my new veg room. So bear with me guys, I hate having an update with no pics, its not my style. But I'll try to make up for it with a badass update within the next week. As always, if you have any questions or comments, feel free to ask or post.
Integra21
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And finally, the much anticipated udate after the rooms update. Been working hard for 2 week now. Completely stripped the room bare. Sprayed the whole place down with organicide and then an hour later with 1:4 ratio of bleach water. Rewrapped the whole room in panda film, then did around the screen in Lightning film. Put in a 12,000btu portable dual house ac/heater. Havent had to use it yet. Installed a Hydrogen miniGen and water cooled it with drain to waste, and hung the 2 600w's with a 6" canfan and used SuperSun 2 reflectors hooked to a dual 600w lumatek balast. Running the same dwc tubs I have always, but now there is 2. Just Put in the 3 larger Blue Kush clones I had into the left side of the screen and in the next few days, I will be putting 6 small Blue Kush clones in the right. The Screen is 3'x8'. Any questions about the build, feel free to ask, and now onto the goods.....
Blue Kush: Day 1
Rm Temp: 84F
Res Temp: 75F
RH: 37%
CO2PPM: 1500
Nute PPM: 1080
PH: 5.95
Blue Kush: Day 1
Rm Temp: 84F
Res Temp: 75F
RH: 37%
CO2PPM: 1500
Nute PPM: 1080
PH: 5.95
OB Cron Kenobi
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Wow... I can't believe I just read 18 pages of a journal...
Best journal ever! seriously. Impressed.
Your ability to document and detail is what more people on this site need to note. I like your style.
And in regards to what brought me here from the 400w club. I think I will be doing 2 under each light. The question now remains whether I do 2 different varieties (Great white shark and Kings Kush) or just one or the other...
any input?
They look to be about the same in height... but uniformity- as you can note is great.
Best journal ever! seriously. Impressed.
Your ability to document and detail is what more people on this site need to note. I like your style.
And in regards to what brought me here from the 400w club. I think I will be doing 2 under each light. The question now remains whether I do 2 different varieties (Great white shark and Kings Kush) or just one or the other...
any input?
They look to be about the same in height... but uniformity- as you can note is great.
Integra21
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Well, 2 strains can be nice for the variety, but may have different nutritional needs. As long as they're not in a shared dwc tub like mine, i will be fine as long as you can tend to their different needs if needed. I plan on running the same strains this first go in the new setup, but the next round will be a 50/50 mix of 2 strains at a time(1per light)