Balls Out First Grow(Whie Widow Scrog, 430w Son Agro Aircooled, DWC, CO2)

howak47

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Damn right integra them nugs are lookin dank bro!! Good job!!!keep up the growin cant wait to see the end product :)
 

cruzer101

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Hey Integra,
Grow looks awesome as usual, Just though I would mention Im still lookin for a minigen and it doesnt have to be water cooled so if you got an extra one and want to sell it I'll be interested.
 

Integra21

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wow nice setup man
Thanks man, it anin easy being cheesey, but its well worth the effort. Thaks for stopping by.
that blue kush looks diggity
Thaks Chitown. Let me know when you want me to cut you a clone.
Damn right integra them nugs are lookin dank bro!! Good job!!!keep up the growin cant wait to see the end product :)
Thanks Howak. I feel the same about yours, really looking forward to seeing what you can do with a real light. The piss should be done in about 2 weeks.
Hey Integra,
Grow looks awesome as usual, Just though I would mention Im still lookin for a minigen and it doesnt have to be water cooled so if you got an extra one and want to sell it I'll be interested.
If I didnt have plans for it already, I would say hell yeah. But at the moment Im planning on setting it up in my clone room sice I read a study that said if you give fresh cut/rooted clones co2 right from the begening, the will produce considerably larger yields and I really want to put it to the test. But if they're wrong we can start talking numbers. Now go check on your girls, they're getting out of control, Im a little worried they might try to roll you up and smoke you if they get any bigger like Shorty from Scary Movie 2.
 

Integra21

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I did my breeding experiment yesterday. I collected pollen, which was a lot harder than I though it was going to be. I read to just hold a piece of paper inder a branch and shake it and you shoud get tons of pollen, but that wasnt the case at all. I had about 10% of the pods open, but when I shook it nothing fell. Then I read somemore and the said to wrap a bag around the branch and just let it fall and you should have a lot in a few days, but it got all moist in the bag and I didnt notice any pollen and if there was any it would have been contaminated by the moisture, so I finally just broke the main stalk and left the plant haanging over a shelf I wapped in mylar, let pollen fall on it for 2 days, and then just scrapped it into a film canister with a piece of paper. From there I got my supplies to pollinate my Blue Kush that are growing in the flower room(Brown paper bag, scissors, duct tape, pollen in film canister, and a paint brush).

I went in and made almost an envelope around the 2 branches I wanted to pollinate with the paper bag and tape...


Then I shut off all air movement in the room(1 fixed fan, 2 oscillating, and the a/c) Then I carefully opened up the film case on dipped the tim of the brush into the pollen and applied it to the pistils...

I was very careful not to make any jerky movements while handling the pollen and brush, but Im sure a coule of grains of the pollen might have gotten loose, but I wont know for sure until after the harvest. Then I carefully taped the bags shut making sure to move them as little as possible(wasnt easy, there has to be a better way)and have left them for the night. I also left all of the fans off but turned the a/c back on. I plan on leaving the buds wrapped for 2 days and then opening the "envelopes" and spraying them down with water to ensure the pollen wont pread once opened. At that Point I will turn the fans back on.


This was my first attempt a breeding so any input, critisism, or comments would be much appreciated. I hope I did it good enough to work, but I wont know for a few more weeks. I will be sure to update about it at harvest to let you know how the ones I did turned out and if I accidentally pollinated anything else. If anyone has a better way of doing this, I would love to hear about it, It was a lot more difficult to do than I expected, Im sure a dedicated room for such things would be much better, but thats not an option right now. But it might have been easier if I wasnt royally f'ed up on hash cookies when I did it, but who knows...
 

theexpress

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nice.. hopefully the pollin took...... next time just harvest the balls... put them in a small pill bottle with the cap lightly/loosely on... let them dry a day or two then with the other end of the paint brush smash the balls up... then shake everything in the pill bottle, and use a damp paintbrush to pollinate buds....
 

littlegrower2004

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integra- looks a little extreme to cover them completly but its a small part of a larger plant that recieves plenty of light and fresh air to supply the covered branches. GREAT guide through your process though, it was nice and detailed for each step. could set up a thread specifically for this trial period and i wouldnt be shocked if it got stickied in the breeders paradise. cant wait for your next update with that pissssss!!
 

Heads Up

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Integra, I do not believe you need to keep your bud covered for two days. My suggestion, spray your cacoons before and after you open them. You will probably get a few beans where you weren't expecting them, it's the nature of the beast if you can't take your plants out of your grow room to pollinate them. Just remember to mark the stems you pollinate. I would take them off tomorrow if you did them today. If it takes you will notice the pistals getting orange and sucking back into the seed pod in a day or three. Hope that helps.
 

Integra21

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nice.. hopefully the pollin took...... next time just harvest the balls... put them in a small pill bottle with the cap lightly/loosely on... let them dry a day or two then with the other end of the paint brush smash the balls up... then shake everything in the pill bottle, and use a damp paintbrush to pollinate buds....
Cool. I'll have to try that next time. Getting that pollen was truethfully the most annoying part of the process and that sounds a whole lot easier. I should have thought to try the wet brush, but I read somewhere that water makes the pollen unviable. After the first couple of strokes the brush was sticky as hell from the trichs and it was sticking real good to that. I might try to do a couple of more branches tomorrow. Wanted to cross a branch with the cheeseberry male I got too, It just wasnt as vigorous of a plant so Im not sure what I'll end up with.But Blue Cheeseberry Kush sounded tasty to me.
integra- looks a little extreme to cover them completly but its a small part of a larger plant that recieves plenty of light and fresh air to supply the covered branches. GREAT guide through your process though, it was nice and detailed for each step. could set up a thread specifically for this trial period and i wouldnt be shocked if it got stickied in the breeders paradise. cant wait for your next update with that pissssss!!
Thats what one source(Jorge Grow Bible) suggested to do. So I figured why not. Its my first attempt so its bound not to go perfect anyway. I might make a thread there tomorrow, that way I can get pics of collecting the pollen to strat the tut with. Thaks for swining by, there should be another update on the Piss on Mon/Tues.
Integra, I do not believe you need to keep your bud covered for two days. My suggestion, spray your cacoons before and after you open them. You will probably get a few beans where you weren't expecting them, it's the nature of the beast if you can't take your plants out of your grow room to pollinate them. Just remember to mark the stems you pollinate. I would take them off tomorrow if you did them today. If it takes you will notice the pistals getting orange and sucking back into the seed pod in a day or three. Hope that helps.
Cool, didnt know about the pistils. I'll def keep an eye on that. I red to keep them coverd for 24-48hrs depending on who was saying it, Im just going with the 48 to be safe since it will be a while before I grow the Blue Kush again(gotta make it through the Madonna, Hericules, KO Kush, Killing Kush, Kolossus, and cheese berry in that order in pairs of 2). Thanks for your help, it is appreciated.
 

Bob Smith

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I did my breeding experiment yesterday. I collected pollen, which was a lot harder than I though it was going to be. I read to just hold a piece of paper inder a branch and shake it and you shoud get tons of pollen, but that wasnt the case at all. I had about 10% of the pods open, but when I shook it nothing fell. Then I read somemore and the said to wrap a bag around the branch and just let it fall and you should have a lot in a few days, but it got all moist in the bag and I didnt notice any pollen and if there was any it would have been contaminated by the moisture, so I finally just broke the main stalk and left the plant haanging over a shelf I wapped in mylar, let pollen fall on it for 2 days, and then just scrapped it into a film canister with a piece of paper. From there I got my supplies to pollinate my Blue Kush that are growing in the flower room(Brown paper bag, scissors, duct tape, pollen in film canister, and a paint brush).

I went in and made almost an envelope around the 2 branches I wanted to pollinate with the paper bag and tape...


Then I shut off all air movement in the room(1 fixed fan, 2 oscillating, and the a/c) Then I carefully opened up the film case on dipped the tim of the brush into the pollen and applied it to the pistils...

I was very careful not to make any jerky movements while handling the pollen and brush, but Im sure a coule of grains of the pollen might have gotten loose, but I wont know for sure until after the harvest. Then I carefully taped the bags shut making sure to move them as little as possible(wasnt easy, there has to be a better way)and have left them for the night. I also left all of the fans off but turned the a/c back on. I plan on leaving the buds wrapped for 2 days and then opening the "envelopes" and spraying them down with water to ensure the pollen wont pread once opened. At that Point I will turn the fans back on.


This was my first attempt a breeding so any input, critisism, or comments would be much appreciated. I hope I did it good enough to work, but I wont know for a few more weeks. I will be sure to update about it at harvest to let you know how the ones I did turned out and if I accidentally pollinated anything else. If anyone has a better way of doing this, I would love to hear about it, It was a lot more difficult to do than I expected, Im sure a dedicated room for such things would be much better, but thats not an option right now. But it might have been easier if I wasnt royally f'ed up on hash cookies when I did it, but who knows...
Lol.........you're making seeds now? I'm jealous.......good shit kid.
 

BooMeR242

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great shots man. ive never seen anyone actually put up pix of the process. thanks for sharing. ill be waiting for results 8)
 

Integra21

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Lol.........you're making seeds now? I'm jealous.......good shit kid.
Just starting. Nothing to special. Goal is just to get to see how it works, and If I end up with a sweet new mom, id be very happy.
great shots man. ive never seen anyone actually put up pix of the process. thanks for sharing. ill be waiting for results 8)
Thanks. I looked around for a quick guide with pics but vouldnt find one, so I fugured might as well make one.
 

#1Raiderfan420

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Damn, nice work on the polinating. I am sure there is an easier way, but it looks like your way should work. I am curious to see how it works out. Where did you keep your male plant at or was it a hermie that you had to pull?
 

Integra21

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aww shit you got me so excited im forgetting the days of the week. haha well ill be waiting!! hows the trichs looking??
I'll do my best to get it up Monday. The trichs are 90% cloudy, 5% clear, and 5% amber. I usually harvest around 60% cloudy 40% amber. Luckily for my, my flush only takes 3 days, but I run it for 5 if I can.
Damn, nice work on the polinating. I am sure there is an easier way, but it looks like your way should work. I am curious to see how it works out. Where did you keep your male plant at or was it a hermie that you had to pull?
It was a male plant. What I did was made a small, ghetto, cfl flower room out of a couple of end tables and some mylar. I cut 1 clone each from my 6 new potential moms(Madonna, Kolossus, Cheeseberry, KO Kush, Killing Kush, and Hericules) and put them in there to sex them. Ended up with 4 females(Madonna, Hericules, Killing Kush, KO Kush) and 2 males(Kolossus, Cheeseberry). I have let them go on their own, and I collected pollen from the Kolossus and Cheeseberry. Since I did my little breeding update, I have pollinated 3 branches with the Kolossus pollen and 1 with the Cheeseberry all on the Blue Kush, since the piss is to far along to pollinate. The real purpose was to just breed with the Kolossus in the hopes of adding a little better bud structure and potentiall increase the yield on it. I last minuste decided to do the cheeseberry because I thought BlueCheese BerryKush just sounded tasty and I wanted to see what I would get. But the Cheese berry wasnt anywhere near as good of a male as the Kolossus. I will be sure to post pics and how well the seeds come out, so look for that in about 4-6 weeks. Im really just hoping I didnt get any pollen flying around to mess up the rest of the Kush that I didnt want pollinated, but if I did, oh well. Just more seeds to play with.
 
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