Bad Experience

drjay44

New Member
Well I last smoked about 30 years ago. However 2 weeks ago I took one hit off a pipe and loved the feeling. Back in the day you never knew if you were getting Sativa or Indica. I suppose part of why I gave it up was not knowing what type of effect you would get. Euphoria or couch lock. I hate couch lock !
So times have changed with all these new strains.

Anyway , having liked the recent euphoric effect from one toke I ordered some seeds. Along with the seeds came nice chocolate bar, (Bhang 2x strength). Label says 130 mg THC per serving. Also warns to take only 1/2 serving if not used to it.

So i follow directions and take 1/2 piece containing 65 mg of THC. Fully expect some nice light euphoria to enjoy my day.

An hour later the freight train hits me. Very psychoactive with paranoia. Lasts at least 6 hours. After that extreme couch lock. Total time of effects was at least 10-12 hours!

Not what I was expecting! Pretty much stayed in the house all day.Tried to go outside but too intense.

I found this reference:

MedHeadWhat’s the Down-Low on MG?
cI went to a shop recently to explore the various non-smokable options they had. Among them were tinctures, brownies, concentrates, candy, & capsules, there was a bit of confusion about what the dosages actually meant. What exactly is a 4X brownie? If I get an E-cartridge with an eighth equivalent in it, what does that mean for my medication? If I tell you that a capsule has 15mg of THC in it, do you know how that will affect you? Based on what I’ve heard from most people the answer is no.
Most people know how much dry herb to smoke or vape to get the desired effects that works for their body. Not only that, but smoked cannabis takes effect almost immediately, so it’s easy to stop as soon as you need or want to. It’s different with edibles though. When cannabis is ingested it takes 1-2 hours for the effects to be felt. With such a large time gap, you can’t wait until you feel the medicine in order to stop. In order to not go overboard with medibles, you should have a standard reference of how much medicine works for you.
Here’s how you can know. First let’s go over some averages we will use. The average potency of properly grown cannabis is right around 15%, Bubble hash is usually around 35%, Waxes & Oils concentrates are usually around 65%. Most personal sized joints are about 1gram of dry herb.
Now let’s say it takes you ½ of a joint to get the effects you desire. Based on the averages we can calculate an estimate of how many mg of THC that would be. ½ of a joint would be about 500 mg of cannabis. 500mg of dry herb x 15% potency = 75mg total THC. Because of the nature of smoking, about 25% of that is actually consumed by the body. So 75mg x 25% = avg. 18.75 mg of THC is ingested from this scenario. Now ingested cannabis affects the body differently than smoked cannabis so don’t expect an identical high even if you consume an identical amount of medicine, but it’s a safe reference point to get you started.

5mg= 2 hits on a joint
25mg= your share of a party sized joint
35mg= an entire smokes joint
130mg= an eight 1/8[SUP]th[/SUP] of smoked herb
Cannabis = Super Herb! ©


So if the above is orrect looks like I had 2 joints worth of THC! Considering that one hit off the pipe is all I need I way overdosed.

Now I am hesitant to grow or ever take even a small bite of the chocolate. i'm sure a tiny piece will give me the desired effect but after yesterday i am really turned off to cannabis. Hope my feelings change.

Just wanted to share a bad experience. i imagine others have made the same error as I.



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schuylaar

Well-Known Member
Well I last smoked about 30 years ago. However 2 weeks ago I took one hit off a pipe and loved the feeling. Back in the day you never knew if you were getting Sativa or Indica. I suppose part of why I gave it up was not knowing what type of effect you would get. Euphoria or couch lock. I hate couch lock !
So times have changed with all these new strains.

Anyway , having liked the recent euphoric effect from one toke I ordered some seeds. Along with the seeds came nice chocolate bar, (Bhang 2x strength). Label says 130 mg THC per serving. Also warns to take only 1/2 serving if not used to it.

So i follow directions and take 1/2 piece containing 65 mg of THC. Fully expect some nice light euphoria to enjoy my day.

An hour later the freight train hits me. Very psychoactive with paranoia. Lasts at least 6 hours. After that extreme couch lock. Total time of effects was at least 10-12 hours!

Not what I was expecting! Pretty much stayed in the house all day.Tried to go outside but too intense.

I found this reference:

MedHeadWhat’s the Down-Low on MG?
cI went to a shop recently to explore the various non-smokable options they had. Among them were tinctures, brownies, concentrates, candy, & capsules, there was a bit of confusion about what the dosages actually meant. What exactly is a 4X brownie? If I get an E-cartridge with an eighth equivalent in it, what does that mean for my medication? If I tell you that a capsule has 15mg of THC in it, do you know how that will affect you? Based on what I’ve heard from most people the answer is no.
Most people know how much dry herb to smoke or vape to get the desired effects that works for their body. Not only that, but smoked cannabis takes effect almost immediately, so it’s easy to stop as soon as you need or want to. It’s different with edibles though. When cannabis is ingested it takes 1-2 hours for the effects to be felt. With such a large time gap, you can’t wait until you feel the medicine in order to stop. In order to not go overboard with medibles, you should have a standard reference of how much medicine works for you.
Here’s how you can know. First let’s go over some averages we will use. The average potency of properly grown cannabis is right around 15%, Bubble hash is usually around 35%, Waxes & Oils concentrates are usually around 65%. Most personal sized joints are about 1gram of dry herb.
Now let’s say it takes you ½ of a joint to get the effects you desire. Based on the averages we can calculate an estimate of how many mg of THC that would be. ½ of a joint would be about 500 mg of cannabis. 500mg of dry herb x 15% potency = 75mg total THC. Because of the nature of smoking, about 25% of that is actually consumed by the body. So 75mg x 25% = avg. 18.75 mg of THC is ingested from this scenario. Now ingested cannabis affects the body differently than smoked cannabis so don’t expect an identical high even if you consume an identical amount of medicine, but it’s a safe reference point to get you started.

5mg= 2 hits on a joint
25mg= your share of a party sized joint
35mg= an entire smokes joint
130mg= an eight 1/8[SUP]th[/SUP] of smoked herb
Cannabis = Super Herb! ©


So if the above is orrect looks like I had 2 joints worth of THC! Considering that one hit off the pipe is all I need I way overdosed.

Now I am hesitant to grow or ever take even a small bite of the chocolate. i'm sure a tiny piece will give me the desired effect but after yesterday i am really turned off to cannabis. Hope my feelings change.

Just wanted to share a bad experience. i imagine others have made the same error as I.



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damn! where can i order those seeds from to get a chocolate bar sample?

sorry you had such a bad experience..medibles are much different "high" wise..stick to smoking:wink:
 

CoolDudeStuff

Active Member
Yeah mate.. You can't give up on this wonderful lady just because you had an overdose. You just need to learn how to control the effects (smoke less, no edibles, etc.)!!
Imagine if you had an amazing girl, and she just wanted to have sex all day while all you wanted is a blow every now and then. :lol:
Control is the key!!
Cheers!
 

Jimdamick

Well-Known Member
Wow, for somebody that hadn't smoked for 30 years, you seem to be making up for lost time. In 2 weeks time you join RIU, ordered seeds and get a med bar included? How did you manage that? Nothing personal, but it sounds like total shite to me.
 

noham

Active Member
What does 'total shite' mean to you?

If you make up something then it's already real.
 

meds for wife

New Member
lmoa i found your too funny i was literally lol
dont give up bro just a bad experience plus growing is an awesome adventure
 

Kanaplya

Member
Yea, edibles are very different high. I know many smokers, myself included, that stay away from edibles altogether.
 

BWG707

Well-Known Member
Bhang Bars are about the only edibles that I have purchased that I liked. I always get the 3x bars and they are pretty potent on an empty stomach. I could easily understand someone with a low tolerance having problems with even the 2x bars. Maybe you could try the regular strength at 1/2 dose. Also you might want to try eating something before eating the bar. Just a thought.
 

colonuggs

Well-Known Member
that was day one of ingestion...... day 2 will be a lot less intense....you need to take 1/4 not 1/2 adjust your dose
 

drjay44

New Member
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Wow, for somebody that hadn't smoked for 30 years, you seem to be making up for lost time. In 2 weeks time you join RIU, ordered seeds and get a med bar included? How did you manage that? Nothing personal, but it sounds like total shite to me.
No offense. It's the truth. I got the bar because the seeds i ordered were no longer carried due to hermie issue. It was Cali Connection Blue Dream Haze they stopped carrying. So in place they sent me 12 regular seeds (super blue dream x Inferno Haze).

Included bar of chocolate just because. I have no reason to make up this shit (shite?)
 

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GreatwhiteNorth

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The day I made my first peanut butter cookies with my very first ever Cannabutter they smelled fantastic.
So I ate 3 in the early afternoon (a Sunday).

An hour later still no effects, so I ate 2 more ~ ~ big mistake.

Monday around noon is when I started feeling more "normal".
I learned that I gotta be careful around those things !

And welcome to RIU. :cool:
 

drjay44

New Member
The day I made my first peanut butter cookies with my very first ever Cannabutter they smelled fantastic.
So I ate 3 in the early afternoon (a Sunday).

An hour later still no effects, so I ate 2 more ~ ~ big mistake.

Monday around noon is when I started feeling more "normal".
I learned that I gotta be careful around those things !

And welcome to RIU. :cool:
Yes. Real kick in edibles. Considering I have been smoke free for like 30 years I'm surprised I am not in a psych unit. I was really worried.

Like "please god let this be over" Thats saying a lot as I am atheist. The psychoactive event was really powerful. But the couch lock that followed sucked the big one.

I just do not like the useless turd feeling of couch lock.

Yes i must be careful. Next time instead of a 1/2 dose I'm thinking maybe a quarter or less. Just want to find that sweet spot where I have a nice buzz without the paranoia or couch lock. For sure smoking is more predictable.
 

GreatwhiteNorth

Global Moderator
Staff member
Yes. Real kick in edibles. Considering I have been smoke free for like 30 years I'm surprised I am not in a psych unit. I was really worried.

Like "please god let this be over" Thats saying a lot as I am atheist. The psychoactive event was really powerful. But the couch lock that followed sucked the big one.

I just do not like the useless turd feeling of couch lock.

Yes i must be careful. Next time instead of a 1/2 dose I'm thinking maybe a quarter or less. Just want to find that sweet spot where I have a nice buzz without the paranoia or couch lock. For sure smoking is more predictable.
I didn't partake for around 20 years (military commitment).
Started again in 2000 & haven't looked back since.
It's a learning curve - you just got ahead of it a bit too much. :wink:
 

Sand4x105

Well-Known Member
Yea, the first time I made brownies...
Ate a small piece... got dressed for gym...
Cut another... drove to gym.... ate the second piece cause I didn't get any effect yet...
Parked in UG lot, sparked my normal two bowls before gym...
Went inside my X wife [soon to be X] over on the eliptical...
I sit on bike, just to get loose...
35 minutes since the first brownie...
I pause bike...
Walk over to X...
"Hey, just so ya know, I ate too many brownies... I am very light headed...
If for some reason I fall off ex bike, please help me up an not laugh..."
I was serious... I don't remember much of that workout...
Not very smart... Der dee doooo....
 

GreatwhiteNorth

Global Moderator
Staff member
Funny how that works amongst the different substances we dose ourselves with.

Every man-made drug in the world: Gross overdose = Death
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>........Cannabis: Gross overdose = Uncomfortable for a few hours.

Really not a tough choice
 

Grandpapy

Well-Known Member
Welcome Back!

Stay on track and next year/month you'll be saying they don't make chocolate like they use too!:eyesmoke:
 

Kanaplya

Member
I didn't partake for around 20 years (military commitment).
Started again in 2000 & haven't looked back since.
It's a learning curve - you just got ahead of it a bit too much. :wink:
I didn't partake for the same reason for 5 years and then, ironically, got my prescription for PTSD. Lol,
 
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