Autoflowering plant

DubB83

DubB83

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pepsicola said:
well that sucks if so because ruderalis is almost completely devoid of THC
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Obviously it is not pure ruderalis, I'll have you know that strains containing ruderalis have won awards at the Cannabis Cup.

Pure ruderalis is not devoid of THC either, that is a misconception.

All auto flowering plants contain a bit of ruderalis. Ruderalis = auto flowering. This includes Low Ryder and the strain Ice. Ice, Ice happens to be a high THC plant and for me it didn't start to flower until 40 days.

Auto flowering plants flower quicker under HIDs, I'm guessing this plant was grown under flouros and it is right on schedule for flouros and auto flowering plants.
 
pepsicola

pepsicola

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DubB83 said:
Obviously it is not pure ruderalis, I'll have you know that strains containing ruderalis have won awards at the Cannabis Cup.
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can you tell us which strains those are? or tell us where you got that info? i cant find anything about that..
 
pepsicola

pepsicola

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All auto flowering plants contain a bit of ruderalis. Ruderalis = auto flowering. This includes Low Ryder and the strain Ice. Ice, Ice happens to be a high THC plant and for me it didn't start to flower until 40 days.
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which ice? the only ice i know is from nirvana and that is

'Ice (Nirvana) Afghani X Skunk X Northern Lights X Shiva'

as taken from..

http://www.onlinepot.org/grow/800straingentics.htm

from nirvana only 'early special' and 'four way' contain ruderalis as far as i can see
 
pepsicola

pepsicola

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DubB83 said:
Obviously it is not pure ruderalis, I'll have you know that strains containing ruderalis have won awards at the Cannabis Cup.

Pure ruderalis is not devoid of THC either, that is a misconception.

All auto flowering plants contain a bit of ruderalis. Ruderalis = auto flowering. This includes Low Ryder and the strain Ice. Ice, Ice happens to be a high THC plant and for me it didn't start to flower until 40 days.

Auto flowering plants flower quicker under HIDs, I'm guessing this plant was grown under flouros and it is right on schedule for flouros and auto flowering plants.
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kay after a few minutes of net research ive not found one single reference to any cannabis cup winning strains containing ruderalis, and Ice certianly does not contain any ruderalis. so i think its fair to assume your talking a lot of shit.
 
DubB83

DubB83

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pepsicola said:
kay after a few minutes of net research ive not found one single reference to any cannabis cup winning strains containing ruderalis, and Ice certianly does not contain any ruderalis. so i think its fair to assume your talking a lot of shit.
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Says the newb.

I grew Ice in 2004 and yes it contains ruderalis. Very high THC content and an auto flowering plant.

I got my information from experience. No shit talking, just the truth. I have been growing ruderalis on and off for years.

My name on overgrow.com was bubs_ice and Ice from Nirvana is what I enjoyed growing.

Here is the post I made on Nirvana's site back in 2004 where I posted it contained ruderalis.

http://www.druglibrary.org/Strainguide/nirvana/ice/651/index.html

Grower Report - bubs_ice on January 10, 2004, 10:21 pm
Ice from Nirvana rated 6.57



Overall Rating: 7
Effect: Somewhat heady Potency: 8
Stature: Somewhat tall and lanky Yield: 5
Phenotype: Mixed, some Ruderalis Ease: 7
Indoor: 45 to 50 days Appearance: 7
Outdoor: Not Listed Odor Level: 5
Odor: Low odor during grow, maybee because of ionic air cleaner. Taste Level: 5
Taste: Good taste, but still lacking some major kick Grower's Tilt: 9
Sexes: Standard (M/F) SI Rating: Not Listed Vintage: Not Listed
I thoroughly enjoyed this plant! I am re-growing it right now. Don't let my numbers fool you, I think I may have messed up somewhere with the hydro solution. It isn't the plant's fault, even though I wish there was no Ruderalis in the strain (causes early flowering), I wanted to veg my plant for a bit longer and see if I could get a more pleasing yield.

The trichomes cover everything and shimmer in the light, the smell is definitely pleasing but hard to describe or put a finger on. The main intense smells come from the buds actually being broken into bits. Low odor was a major issue with my setup and I'm glad I got a plant that doesn't make the whole house smell like growing pot (already smells like smoked pot).


Garden Information for this report
Bloom Wattage Used: 20w to 250w Average Plant Height: 48 Plants per Sq. Foot: 1.00 Average Yield per Plant: 2.00 Pruning or Plant Style: Tree Fertilization Method: Chemically fed
Grow space: hightimes grow cube (measures 2x2x4), 2 pc fans, 4 flouro lights (each corner of the box vertically), 1 100W sunmaster HPS, General Hydroponics Waterfarm

Medium: clay pebbles and organo grow starter plugs

Watering cycle: 24/7 baby

Fertilization: General Hydroponics grow formulas by the book

Report added by: bubs_ice Last edited by: Burramys Parvus on January 10, 2004, 11:01 pm
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Do better research. I have known for years that Ice, a cannabis cup winner in 1998, did infact auto flower.

Breeder's Description - 'Ice'

With Ice we have successfully attempted to bring quality and quantity together. Ice has ancestors of Afghani, a very special Skunk, Northern Light, and Shiva. An intense selection process of thousands of plants was used in finding this special mix. Ice flowers are richly covered in trychomes and have a dense consistency. Buds form along main branches and there is a high flower to leaf ratio. Fantastic for hydro and soil applications. The stone is heavy and the aroma is almost like fuel. Ice is a winner of the 1998 Cannabis Cup.
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Once again, the only strain of mary jane that has that property (auto flowering) is ruderalis. One of the "thousands of plants" used in breeding was a ruderalis plant. It is plants like these that spun off todays Low Ryder2 and other auto flowering strains.

If OG was still around I would post pictures and links to my old grow logs.
 
pepsicola

pepsicola

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DubB83 said:
Says the newb.

I grew Ice in 2004 and yes it contains ruderalis. Very high THC content and an auto flowering plant.

I got my information from experience. No shit talking, just the truth. I have been growing ruderalis on and off for years.

My name on overgrow.com was bubs_ice and Ice from Nirvana is what I enjoyed growing.

Here is the post I made on Nirvana's site back in 2004 where I posted it contained ruderalis.

http://www.druglibrary.org/Strainguide/nirvana/ice/651/index.html

Do better research. I have known for years that Ice, a cannabis cup winner in 1998, did infact auto flower.



Once again, the only strain of mary jane that has that property is ruderalis. One of the "thousands of plants" used in breeding was a ruderalis plant. It is plants like these that spun off todays Low Ryder2 and other auto flowering strains.

If OG was still around I would post pictures and links to my old grow logs.
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Ice does not have ruderalis in it, thats a fucking promise

Nirvana have said nothing about this, and i dont care what you say, if nirvana says it is what it is then i'll sooner believe them and not you!!!

can you tell me where it says ruderalis as im having trouble finding it!!!

this is from nirvana themselves

With Ice we have successfully attempted to bring quality and quantity together. Ice has ancestors of Afghani, a very special Skunk, Northern Light, and Shiva. An intense selection process of thousands of plants was used in finding this special mix. Ice flowers are richly covered in trychomes and have a dense consistency. Buds form along main branches and there is a high flower to leaf ratio. Fastastic for hydro and soil applications. The stone is heavy and the aroma is almost like fuel. Ice is a winner of the 1998 Cannabis Cup.

  • Plant type: Best suitable for indoor growing.
  • Plant height: Medium- Indica/Sativa mix
  • Stoned or high?: Stoney yet high- Allround Buzz
  • THC level: Strong 15-20%
  • Flowering Weeks: 8/10
  • Yield (Sea of Green on one m2) : 375-475
  • Harvest Month: 9/10
  • Grow difficulty: Moderate
it says afghani skunk northern lights and shiva

none of those have ruderalis!

lets face it, nirvana arent going to sell an auto flowering strain and not tell people about it because what if someone wants to keep a mother?? and their plant starts autoflowering?? nirvana would not do this. They do sell auto flowering strains, including early special and four way, so if ice was auto flowering im sure they would mention it dont you think?

UNless you want me to believe what you say, as i asked previously, give us links to your sources. and i dont mean a link to some other bullshit you wrote on another forum!!

im ignoring you from now on because your just giving false information . you are the weakest link. goodbye



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DubB83

DubB83

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Here is a flowering ruderalis male I have flowering (under 24/0 lighting) some where else for seed production.





When Ice won the cannabis cup it really could not be considered a strain because at that time it was not stable. Read the other grow reports, I had 3 different phenotypes that I picked the best from.
 
DubB83

DubB83

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pepsicola said:
yes this is true. dont listen to the dubb83 he doesnt know is ass from his elbow
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Go read about what ruderalis is noob. You don't know shit. I HAVE ruderalis plants. I don't claim to be a breeder but I do produce seeds for my own purposes. These seeds started from ICE, an auto flowering plant I grew in 2004. It was from the NIRVANA brand seed company in Amsterdam.

The seeds I got from Nirvana auto flowered. Fact... Period.:finger:

They may have stabilized the genetics by now and removed the auto flowering property.

What I know is there is:

Sativa
Indica
Ruderalis

The only one of those 3 that auto flowers is ruderalis.

Again if OG was still around you could read all you wanted to your hearts content about Ice and other Nirvana strains people were unhappy with because they could not keep a mother.
 
pepsicola

pepsicola

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what do you think your proving by showing a photo of a plant that could be ANYTHING
your such a fool lol

oh and if u say ice has ruderalis in it, which is doesnt, that would mean ak48 is auto flowering and contains ruderalis because its mother is ice, but i can say your WRONG because i have had a mother in veg for about 7 months!!!

SO STFU!!!!!!!
 
DubB83

DubB83

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compqt said:
I thought autoflowers were done in 10 weeks seed to harvest?
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That is correct under the right conditions. Under weak lighting double it. The growing environment has more to do with finish time than the strain.
 
DubB83

DubB83

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pepsicola said:
what do you think your proving by showing a photo of a plant that could be ANYTHING
your such a fool lol

oh and if u say ice has ruderalis in it, which is doesnt, that would mean ak48 is auto flowering and contains ruderalis because its mother is ice, but i can say your WRONG because i have had a mother in veg for about 7 months!!!

SO STFU!!!!!!!
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You don't know shit about genetics.

I hope someone who is of age and has been around the block comes in here and agrees with me.

AK48 is related to Ice, but it is NOT the same plant the ruderalis could be bread out after the correct selection of phenotypes.

Get a life and do more than "a few min of web research".

Geeze, and you call me names...
 
DubB83

DubB83

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pepsicola said:
DubB83 said:
Says the newb.
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you only joined 2 months before me you stupid little fuck!!!
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This website has no control over how long I have been growing. Get a life and go plant something. I was on OG from 2001 until it was shut down. I'll bet you don't even know what OG is.

Graduate from high school get a place of your own grow some plants and post some pics when you have the experience to give advice then come back on here and post.
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pepsicola

pepsicola

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DubB83 said:
pepsicola said:
This website has no control over how long I have been growing. Get a life and go plant something. I was on OG from 2001 until it was shut down. I'll bet you don't even know what OG is.

Graduate from high school get a place of your own grow some plants and post some pics when you have the experience to give advice then come back on here and post.
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sorry dude, im busy licking ur mommas pussy
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DubB83

DubB83

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pepsicola said:
DubB83 said:
sorry dude, im busy licking ur mommas pussy
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Quit ruining this guys thread. Seriously though, you know jack shit. That is why this is the best you can do... change the topic to some kind of general insult you heard on the school bus.

Nirvana lists a "Special Skunk" in Ice's genetics, could it be the "Ruderalis Skunk" they sell?

Fact is fact, go back and re-read everything I have posted. Go back and read everything about Ice that other growers posted in 2004, years after it won the cannabis cup and the strain was not stable. Multiple, up to 5, phenotypes were observed. I saw three of them myself. I picked the one that was leaning more Indica to finish flowering.

All of the plants auto flowered. I kept a male and female for breeding and I have had accidents and cross bred since then when not meaning to and I ended up with what I got. These are descendants of Ice that display auto flowering under 24/0, take it or leave it. I do not claim they are Ice but at the time you could not get a ruderalis plant in the area I live so I kept it alive. Now ruderalis is the new big thing, whoopdy doo.

A brand name (Ice, AK48, Big Bud) can be anything but when it comes down to it there is only Indica, Sativa, and Ruderalis.

Again, ruderalis is the only one that auto flowers!

Bottom line is that the guy who posted this thread has a plant that contains the auto flowering property of ruderalis.

I'm not coming back in here to have a high school level e-fight, because e-fighting is dumb and you have no proof or experience to back up the shit your typing.

http://www.weedbay.net/forums/soil-grows/5060-any-feedback-ice-nirvana.html

Read farmer jay's post. I believe he says something about Ice and ruderalis.

I thought you did research on this.
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DubB83

DubB83

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compqt said:
I thought autoflowers were done in 10 weeks seed to harvest?
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We have used the early flowering characteristic of Ruderalis to improve the outdoor performance of some of our best Skunk varieties.The advantage of a Ruderalis hybrid is that approx. 50% of the seedlings will begin flowering at the 5-7th internode, regardless of the photoperiod (with a finishing date of Sept. 1). The other half of the seedlings will be later (October).
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That might explain the longer time to flower, plus not enough lighting. IMHO I think that is why it is taking so long to finish.

Good luck with your flowering man!
 
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WildBill420

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Personally I think my plant is a Lowryder2. I moved it into 12/12 under my 600w hps about a week ago or whatevere. Its doing awesome, still short, 14-15", but the buds look great ill post a pic when the light comes on. The 2 clones from this plant have rooted and in the last week grown slightly in height and Im seeing some new growth from both, bu they both still are kinda flowery, Ill post pics of those now since that light is on. The other 4 are my Power Skunks. The thing is you guys I cant remember how old ANY of these plants are, nor do I care because they are growing beautifully. And this whole Reuderalis thing, I dunno anything about that but, yea I sure do hope she gets me high when she's done!:weed:
 

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