Very much appreciate the replies. Ok I have had a big night. I thought I should check my threads. I do feel privileged that knickers and ninja replied to my question regarding preflowers. You two created this thread somewhat, with Jats obviously, and actually I feel good too when lacyG and BB, but lets not forget Dark C..... all such wonderful growers helping me out. Fuck this is taking me some time to type. Please excuse my verbal rubbish. My brain is racing but my fingers are useless, fat digits that they are. Please can I remind you of my liquid fueled night. My stupid friends are sleeping in the spare room and insisting on the light turned off while they sleep. Turned off at about 5.00am. Will turn on again when the dipshits get up. I am pretty sure both my plants that i have grown have both turned out to be males. I took a pic through the mag glass and its pretty shit. My hopefully, future wifes mum gets here on the 28th of feb, so if they are both males then i guess its good news for the plants. These were just trials to see if i could not kill the plants.... and maybe get a stick which I would have savoured. Useless i am. Not even a gram. Been over a month so would love a cheeky one and relax on the couch as the mrs is a Polish woman and anyone thats been out with an Eastern European knows what i mean. Very demanding. My Mrs said I need to grow it myself if I want to smoke again. She kills any plants, not the MJ, that she touches but I believe that this site can educate me enough to get something worthwhile. I am not completely sure about something to do with my grow as I have spent about 4 hours reading about preflowers and the repitition of not destroying plants until you are definite of their sex. I hear they both look like oval balls originally and the pistals could grow out of that? As I said my plants are small but here is a picture I took earlier. You most likely cant distinguise, but they do look very testicle like. I will only try harder to get this to reward me. It does mean that i cant grow my White Rhino seeds for a month until the task masters have left. Kmoo why dont you and darkC resolve your issues. He wasnt trying to grow commercial like me.....lol....Its a shame to have someone with good advice leave this thread.