Are small stealth Grows a waste?

BurningMan03

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Take my advice and go with the vipar you picked out. My friend is using the exact same 1 and is doing just fine. You will hear so many different things and only their way is the right way ect.. Your first couple grows is a learning curve and youve got to just start out small and figure out your own style of growing. If youre in a tight spot like me and heat is truly a concern then go with the vipar trust me. Taotronics makes a 36w full spectrum bulb for 30$ i use a couple of those with my 300 watt panels and im very impressed for my 1st run. Heres a pic of them i currently got them vegging a few plants. Everybodys gripe with the blurple lights is penetration sucks. These lights fix that. You can use these bulbs on the sides of your plant and really light that bitch up top to bottom. Happy growing
You Drive a hard argument!! Do you have a link burgle bulbs? I want to check them out. Thanks jimmy!!
 

BurningMan03

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Here's my recently upgraded dual cab. The purple side is 90w. With 1ft by 1.5ft floor space. And 2.5ft of height. Got a Pineapple Chunk under that right now.

The white side is powered by twin 3500k Vero 29C cobs. Floor space is 1.5 sq ft. With 3.15ft of height. Got a second run on a mystery bean going in there. Both areas are done Screen of Green style.

Temps average 6-12°c higher than ambient. I'd say this is fairly efficient use of the given space.
I Concur captain. Very efficient I'm taking notes believe me! I should have researched lighting before I planted :cry:
 

Nugachino

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I Concur captain. Very efficient I'm taking notes believe me! I should have researched lighting before I planted :cry:
Thank you.

Don't stress about your newness. A little under a year ago. I had no clue how to go about growing this wonder herb either.

The wonderful peeps here on RIU busted my balls and dispensed a plethora of information. some of which actually sunk in.

You'll get there.
 

BurningMan03

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Thank you.

Don't stress about your newness. A little under a year ago. I had no clue how to go about growing this wonder herb either.

The wonderful peeps here on RIU busted my balls and dispensed a plethora of information. some of which actually sunk in.

You'll get there.
Hahaha alright I feel Better... thanks brother man...
 

Creature1969

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I don't know how big of an area the people recommending lights are growing in but keep the size of yours in mind.

I wouldn't try any more than 2 of my COBs in there and they're only ~55w each. Even that could be too much. I'm only running 5 of them right now in a 2.5'w x 4'd x 9' high closet.

If I missed something bongsmilie, and you're not using that dresser, please disregard the above statements. Thanks. :bigjoint:
 

Flagg420

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Are small square footage grows a waste of time? I.e. PC grow boxs, cabinet and closet grows?
closets not small....

well... i mean, it 'small' but its not like a micro grow...

And... yea, micro grows are a hobby sport, with a cheeky bonus of free weed at the end....

Its just about going all simcity on a plant and building a small world... In reality, the amount of time and money going IN to a small grow prevents it from being worth it..... You can't stealth it, because you need too much light, light makes heat, heat needs fans, fans make noise, etc...

In the end, if you cant pull at least a few ounces off a grow, its cheaper to just buy some weed...

Cabinet grows are a grey area, depends on cabinet size, and setup cost (lighting/cooling options)
anything smaller is a 'just cuz I can' grow, a small closet will work, a large closet is better, 2 closets is even better yet....

A basement room, with a floor drain and easy access to the breaker box... thats best...
 

whitebb2727

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I don't know how big of an area the people recommending lights are growing in but keep the size of yours in mind.

I wouldn't try any more than 2 of my COBs in there and they're only ~55w each. Even that could be too much. I'm only running 5 of them right now in a 2.5'w x 4'd x 9' high closet.

If I missed something bongsmilie, and you're not using that dresser, please disregard the above statements. Thanks. :bigjoint:
I'm running 200 watts in a 2x4x6 and eventually will be running 400 watts in it.
 

BurningMan03

Active Member
I don't know how big of an area the people recommending lights are growing in but keep the size of yours in mind.

I wouldn't try any more than 2 of my COBs in there and they're only ~55w each. Even that could be too much. I'm only running 5 of them right now in a 2.5'w x 4'd x 9' high closet.

If I missed something bongsmilie, and you're not using that dresser, please disregard the above statements. Thanks. :bigjoint:
Naw bro gunna stick with my cab..... but why only a few cobs will the plants burn
 

BurningMan03

Active Member
closets not small....

well... i mean, it 'small' but its not like a micro grow...

And... yea, micro grows are a hobby sport, with a cheeky bonus of free weed at the end....

Its just about going all simcity on a plant and building a small world... In reality, the amount of time and money going IN to a small grow prevents it from being worth it..... You can't stealth it, because you need too much light, light makes heat, heat needs fans, fans make noise, etc...

In the end, if you cant pull at least a few ounces off a grow, its cheaper to just buy some weed...

Cabinet grows are a grey area, depends on cabinet size, and setup cost (lighting/cooling options)
anything smaller is a 'just cuz I can' grow, a small closet will work, a large closet is better, 2 closets is even better yet....

A basement room, with a floor drain and easy access to the breaker box... thats best...
that's spells out perfectly the negative side of stealth growing. hopefully I can make my cab worth it!! thanks flagg420!
 

mauricem00

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Wow point taken Maurice ....But why should I listen to you your just anonymous stoner?:mrgreen:
you should not listen to me. you should take the time to do your own research. learn about lighting and plant physiology by talking to experts and reading the numerous studies that are available online. analyze those test to learn what they are really telling you.there are a lot of people with good sales pitches out there trying to sell you over priced junk. the only way to protect yourself is to educate yourself. you asked why I chose T5s and I gave you the reason I made that choice. I really don't care what you use. it will have no effect on my life. as long as there is demand for horticultural T5s companies will continue improving horticultural T5s. the same is true for horticultural HIDs. the aquarium community was the first to start playing with LEDs for growing plants. they still use a mix of royal blue and cool white LEDs to create visual effects in their tanks but have found that florescent an metal halide lights work better for growing plants and corals.the horticultural community has come to the same conclusion. I believe that CMH will be the next hot new grow light for cannabis growers but that is just my opinion
 

Creature1969

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I'm running 200 watts in a 2x4x6 and eventually will be running 400 watts in it.
I wouldn't question that. I have 330w between 6 COBs in my space and was pondering 1 more. Not that I need it in anyway. lol

The pic he showed earlier is about half that space. Maybe 18"x24"ish. I personally wouldn't run 4 COBs @200w in there. I think it would be a bad time. I've experienced too much light with mine and on occasion have to run them pretty high. Same reason I'm only running 5 of the 6 right now.

For this size grow and especially using COB/QB that whole 50w/sq ft goes out the window. I'd put cash money on 2 COBs @110w being more than adequate in there. If it's not too much. A single COB can burn a plant pretty easily. He's also has a height limit.

A lot keep talking like this dude's using a tent.
 

Creature1969

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that's spells out perfectly the negative side of stealth growing. hopefully I can make my cab worth it!! thanks flagg420!
2 of the stunted auto's from my 1st grow would easily fit in your cabinet as they never got over 10" tall. That's a total of ~4.5oz in 3 months time. I made a lot of mistakes and still got to harvest some decent weed by accident. No reason you can't achieve that on purpose, right?
 
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