Are my plants underwatered or overwatered??

Wattzzup · Mar 17, 2021

Autofire said:
I must be doing it wrong hey
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Thanks for proving our point!!! :hump:

Ne14BUD · Mar 17, 2021

lusidghost said:
Elevating you pots definitely helps. I just went through this in a different thread a few days ago. It's not necessary depending on your setup. I'm going every other day in flower and they're thriving. But I'm addressing tiny plants here. There's no need to water them if the pots are heavy. The nutrients don't go bad overnight.

But the main root system will be staying dry for the first couple of inches so that will need watered

Autofire · Mar 17, 2021

Ne14BUD said:
I have and they are now asleep princess

And I bet you still didn't hit decent run off.

Dreminen169 · Mar 17, 2021

lusidghost said:
That can be said about anything. The pots in his picture are huge compared to his plants.

Not really, I could overwater a seedling in a solo cup that’s in soil but, if I were in that same solo cup with Coco, it would literally almost be impossible. The only time you could have a problem is if your using used coco.
He would definitely not be overwatering in those pots even if he watered twice a day

lusidghost · Mar 17, 2021

Ne14BUD said:
But the main root system will be staying dry for the first couple of inches so that will need watered

Virtually every problem I've ever had was from overwatering and I've never used soil.

lusidghost · Mar 17, 2021

Dreminen169 said:
Not really, I could overwater a seedling in a solo cup that’s in soil but, if I were in that same solo cup with Coco, it would literally almost be impossible. The only time you could have a problem is if your using used coco.
He would definitely not be overwatering in those parts if he watered every day

Coco is hydro. If your roots are wet then they have access to the nutrients. If the plant is feeding heavy, which his surely aren't, then you'll get an imbalance. it will also suck up the water and dry out the coco.

Dreminen169 · Mar 17, 2021

lusidghost said:
Virtually every problem I've ever had was from overwatering and I've never used soil.

The thing with Coco is you could always add new water allowing more oxygen to come in

lusidghost · Mar 17, 2021

I've never reused coco either.

lusidghost · Mar 17, 2021

Dreminen169 said:
The thing with Coco is you could always add new water allowing more oxygen to come in

Or you could keep them at their ideal moisture level where oxygen is plentiful.

lusidghost · Mar 17, 2021

Dreminen169 said:
The thing with Coco is you could always add new water allowing more oxygen to come in

This is a pretty wild statement though.

Pmurp · Mar 17, 2021

This entire thread is popcorn worthy lmfao. Kind of like watching a Pop Warner vs NFL game.
Love how it’s got equal parts roasting and legitimate growing info :mrgreen:

Doug Dawson · Mar 17, 2021

lusidghost said:
Elevating you pots definitely helps. I just went through this in a different thread a few days ago. It's not necessary depending on your setup. I'm going every other day in flower and they're thriving. But I'm addressing tiny plants here. There's no need to water them if the pots are heavy. The nutrients don't go bad overnight.

When coco dries the nutes create salt deposits so I don't let coco dry out. If your pots are still heavy than it will just take less to get runoff. Better to water twice as often than to let it dry IMO. That's what works for me anyway.

lusidghost · Mar 17, 2021

Doug Dawson said:
When coco dries the nutes to create salt deposits so I don't let coco dry out. If your pots are still heavy than it will just take less to get runoff. Better to water twice as often than to let it dry IMO. That's what works for me anyway.

I agree with this and I'm not saying let them dry out at all. There's a wide margin between fully saturated and underwatered. You're just wasting nutrients, in my opinion. What are you flushing out exactly? How much do you think those little plants are consuming?

Ne14BUD · Mar 17, 2021

We will Sharp tell if they are over or underwatered, I am going towards what you guys said need feeding ASAP and watered more often

Dreminen169 · Mar 17, 2021

lusidghost said:
I agree with this and I'm not saying let them dry out at all. There's a wide margin between fully saturated and underwatered. You're just wasting nutrients, in my opinion. What are you flushing out exactly? How much do you think those little plants are consuming?

You don’t have to water to run off every time just as long as you do so once a day
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lusidghost · Mar 17, 2021

Ne14BUD said:
We will Sharp tell if they are over or underwatered, I am going towards what you guys said need feeding ASAP and watered more often

I don't think anyone is arguing with this. Those pups are bone dry. Do it now.

lusidghost · Mar 17, 2021

Dreminen169 said:
You don’t have to water to run off every time just as long as you do so once a day
.

Then what are you doing exactly? What is the scientific purpose?

Doug Dawson · Mar 17, 2021

lusidghost said:
I agree with this and I'm not saying let them dry out at all. There's a wide margin between fully saturated and underwatered. You're just wasting nutrients, in my opinion. What are you flushing out exactly? How much do you think those little plants are consuming?

You are flushing out deposits in the coco, that's why it's called drain to waste. The runoff is important. I don't feel I waste nutes at all. If the pots are still moist it takes much less to get runoff so I don't see the waste. Water 1 liter now while moist or 2 liters when dryer. Now if any section of the coco got dry while waiting salt buildups will form. Personally a few dollars in nutes through my grow is my smallest concern so even if there is some waste it's no big deal. But hey, you do your thing man, if it works for you than cool.

Wattzzup · Mar 17, 2021

Pmurp said:
This entire thread is popcorn worthy lmfao. Kind of like watching a Pop Warner vs NFL game.
Love how it’s got equal parts roasting and legitimate growing info

Honestly when I was a new grower I loved watching these threads. People spout so much info out of passion and then post pics. As a new guy I look at the plants and say “I want mine to look like his. AND what he’s saying makes sense”

but I also love to argue :bigjoint:

lusidghost · Mar 17, 2021

Doug Dawson said:
You are flushing out deposits in the coco, that's why it's called drain to waste. The runoff is important. I don't feel I waste nutes at all. If the pots are still moist it takes much less to get runoff so I don't see the waste. Water 1 liter now while moist or 2 liters when dryer. Now if any section of the coco got dry while waiting salt buildups will form. Personally a few dollars in nutes through my grow is my smallest concern so even if there is some waste it's no big deal. But hey, you do your thing man, if it works for you than cool.

Again, how much imbalance do you think a tiny plant is causing by its consumption?

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