Apocolypse?

Hepheastus420 said:

So do you have proof that there's enough nukes to blow up the earth?

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No.
As it turns out, I finished your point for you. Were you not reading?

Hepheastus420 said:

You don't think the government would want a nuke that could rip the earth in half just to have it?

If they use nukes to shut people up, wouldn't they be really happy to say they could go suicidal bombing on the whole world to scare their enemies?

Another question, do you think we have the equipment and the knowledge to build a earth ripping nuke?

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(first and second lines)I don't think so. That would be the Dr. Strangelove premise, and it would end badly. It would be like the scene in Blazing Saddles where the Kid holds himself hostage.

(third line) No. Building a nuke that big would bankrupt the whole world's economies. Producing fissiles and fusion fuel is difficult and expensive.
Also, building a nuke that big would require techniques we do not have ... and that would require a crazy, and crazy expensive, testing program.

Finshaggy said:

No.
As it turns out, I finished your point for you. Were you not reading?

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Skimmed through the posts. I had nothing to prove. It's like telling me that there's leprechauns. Then I say "no there isn't" (which I guess is a claim). Then you say prove it to me. I'm in a position where I didn't make the initial claim but I somehow have to prove the impossible.

Thanks for doing my "work" for me though.

yall ever think about if the molten lava/iron/metal thats in the earths core went a lil crazy an blew us all up? that'd fuckin suck. either way even if they did build a nuke of that sort we would still have to figure out how to put it deep enough into the earth to cause it to blow like that.

cannabineer said:

(first and second lines)I don't think so. That would be the Dr. Strangelove premise, and it would end badly. It would be like the scene in Blazing Saddles where the Kid holds himself hostage.

(third line) No. Building a nuke that big would bankrupt the whole world's economies. Producing fissiles and fusion fuel is difficult and expensive.
Also, building a nuke that big would require techniques we do not have ... and that would require a crazy, and crazy expensive, testing program.

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1) That's true. We would just go into a crazy ass war and nothing good would come out of it with a nuke that could blow up the planet. Nothing good for either side.
What about extremists? I know they don't have the knowledge or the funds, but do you think they're working on it? I'm sure they'd love a nuke strong enough to rip the earth.

2) I figured we didn't have the equipment or technology.


Nukes suck.

Hepheastus420 said:

Skimmed through the posts. I had nothing to prove.

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I just got done telling you what you were trying to prove, you don't have to skim through anything

You said that we didn't even have the technology to blow up the Earth. Then carried that into, Not enough nukes yet.
And I DID say "Prove it". You just didn't go get any evidence.

Like I said, you TRIED to prove things, you just never FINISHED.
It still happened.

Hepheastus420 said:

1) That's true. We would just go into a crazy ass war and nothing good would come out of it with a nuke that could blow up the planet. Nothing good for either side.
What about extremists? I know they don't have the knowledge or the funds, but do you think they're working on it? I'm sure they'd love a nuke strong enough to rip the earth.

2) I figured we didn't have the equipment or technology.


Nukes suck.

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I actually admire nukes. They could pull our collective asses out of the fire one day. Footfall by Niven and Pournelle was a rippin' good read that showed one way. cn

Finshaggy said:

I just got done telling you what you were trying to prove, you don't have to skim through anything

You said that we didn't even have the technology to blow up the Earth. Then carried that into, Not enough nukes yet.
And I DID say "Prove it". You just didn't go get any evidence.

Like I said, you TRIED to prove things, you just never FINISHED.
It still happened.

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Refer to my leprechaun post.

cannabineer said:

I actually admire nukes. They could pull our collective asses out of the fire one day. Footfall by Niven and Pournelle was a rippin' good read that showed one way. cn

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But what about all the innocent people that die by nukes? They're helpful no doubt, but good? I don't think so. Not at all.

Hepheastus420 said:

Refer to my leprechaun post.

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It's irrelevant. So why would I do that?

You tried to make a real point about the sun. Nothing mythical was mentioned. You made a scientific hypothesis, about why the world would end. Then made an assumed calculation that we didn't have enough nukes to destroy the planet.

Hepheastus420 said:

But what about all the innocent people that die by nukes? They're helpful no doubt, but good? I don't think so. Not at all.

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There haven't been that many (people who died by nukes) in my lifetime, and every one of those was from a reactor whoopsie, not a bomb.
If you want to worry less about military nukes, I recommend the Richard Rhodes book. cn

cannabineer said:

How possibly? Even if they were all in the Tsar Bomba class ... you'd still have 90+% of the land surface left. cn

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Hepheastus420 said:

Do you have any proof? Like a link to a good credible source.

It could probably fuck up the earth pretty damn bad... Which is horrible enough, But I don't thinkanything can blow up the earth. I would have heard about that.

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cannabineer said:

I question those numbers as well. The world's combined nuclear arsenals aren't sufficient to resurface something as large as India, let alone all land. I view secondary effects, like "nuclear winter" or "universal radiation poisoning" as unproven and alarmist. cn

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cannabineer said:

I said "resurface", not "take out". Ten well-placed nukes could ruin India economically, but that isn't the premise. We were talking about ruining the planet, not civilization. That's a softer target ... and we don't have enough nukes worldwide to do even that imo. cn

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Their are have enough to destroy the entire Earth and perhaps even almost if not everyone with it.

Watch Countdown to Zero and you will see, there are thousands and thousands and thousands of Atomic bombs capable if all launched at the same time, only takes a few buttons.

cannabineer said:

Then I challenge your claim that we have enough nukes to "Take out the land" of, i.e. resurface, the entire Middle East. The burden is on you to find supporting information, not on anyone else to show it ain't so.

Unless I can use your method and simply say:
It ain't so.
and call that using a source.
But that would just be tiresome, and I'd rather not be that. cn

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Found a link, should work.

http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?desktop_uri=/watch?v=-FNoY5jnm04&v=-FNoY5jnm04&gl=US

Great watch if you hate the time.

cannabineer said:

How possibly? Even if they were all in the Tsar Bomba class ... you'd still have 90+% of the land surface left. cn

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has to do with airstreams, same reason iran would never nuke israel... theyd be fucking themselves over

I thought the moon was bigger than the sun - I've seen it cover it.
If you light your gas lighter you get a big flame from a tiny hole - the sun is small it just has a lot of flames about it.
At the end of each short count of the maya calendar there has been massive natural disaster - flood the end of 1 - asteriods hitting us the end of another - earthquakes & volcanoes another - the end of this one should have a bit of each - a ploe shift would be nice, maybe end up somewhere warmer?

pon said:

I thought the moon was bigger than the sun - I've seen it cover it.
If you light your gas lighter you get a big flame from a tiny hole - the sun is small it just has a lot of flames about it.
At the end of each short count of the maya calendar there has been massive natural disaster - flood the end of 1 - asteriods hitting us the end of another - earthquakes & volcanoes another - the end of this one should have a bit of each - a ploe shift would be nice, maybe end up somewhere warmer?

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Im ok where Im at. Zombies will freeze.

Chief Walkin Eagle said:

Im ok where Im at. Zombies will freeze.

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Are they cold blooded? edit: I actually have a theory on how zombies might be possible. I think that it would could be some kind of parasite right? It would enter the person who would act as the host, the parasite would then feed off of the host, causing the flesh eating disease type of look that you see on zombies in movies and stuff. While this happens the zombie controls the brain of the host like parasites that take over bugs. The parasite's soul purpose while in the human, other than feeding off of us to survive, would be use the body as transportation to infect other humans, either through biting, or possibly scratching, and blood from the infected gets in the wound of the un-infected. my theory doesn't involve wanting to eat brains, and the flesh eating would mean the parasite multiples in your body like cancer, so you can't just shoot them in the head to kill them, but it seems plausible if you ask me. If not a parasite, some kind of disease which would do the exact same things, which opens up the scary possibility of it being caused by biochemical warfare. The parasite or disease would keep the zombie alive until it fed off of it so much the body shuts down either from blood loss or eating the internal organs. Which means if you can hole yourself up long enough, the zombies would eventually die off on their own. Another downside is if it was a "good" parasite or disease, and truly was effective at what it did, to aid spreading it would use tactics such as spitting on uninfected people, and it would use the bodies speed and strength to its max so it isn't the slow creeping zombies like in most movies either.

greenswag said:

If not a parasite, some kind of disease which would do the exact same things, which opens up the scary possibility of it being caused by biochemical warfare.

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Chemicals like all the shite they spray our food with. A lot of Ash trees have been infected in the UK - The Forestry Commission says a disease that has killed 90% of ash trees in Denmark has been found in the countryside in East Anglia. We humans are already a bunch of zombies.

Oh dear apocolypse here we come - The pyramids are going to be destroyed in a false flag scenario just like the twin towers. Now don't say I didn't tell ya.

pon said:

I thought the moon was bigger than the sun - I've seen it cover it.
If you light your gas lighter you get a big flame from a tiny hole - the sun is small it just has a lot of flames about it.
At the end of each short count of the maya calendar there has been massive natural disaster - flood the end of 1 - asteriods hitting us the end of another - earthquakes & volcanoes another - the end of this one should have a bit of each - a ploe shift would be nice, maybe end up somewhere warmer?

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the "great flood" and the asteroid that hit the Dino's are both theories we have no evidence for.