Anybody growing mushrooms willing to talk???

Drop That Sound

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I would buy a cheap ultrasonic pond fogger, and set it in a cup of water. Then put the cup somewhere inside the tub, and let it fog out all the substrate with all the super micron sized mist particles.

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7L!fTeD24

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1st flush!! Minus a few big ones;)20220622_224950.jpg
I would buy a cheap ultrasonic pond fogger, and set it in a cup of water. Then put the cup somewhere inside the tub, and let it fog out all the substrate with all the super micron sized mist particles.

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You're right I really should invest in something like that. Probably even cheaper than the reptile tank fogger. I can see how the fog would perfectly Mist any kind of tub I have. I'm probably gonna just Mist a few times so the sub absorbs the water drops and repeat a couple times. Already misted once but I have pins coming in.
 

7L!fTeD24

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So how would I go about getting a 2nd flush? Spray, dunk, or neither but just keep the fruiting conditions the same?
 

A.k.a

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I would just keep it as is for now. The first flush wasn’t huge so it should have plenty of water left in the sub.

for adding more water the best method is probably to pour enough into the tub to make like 3/4 inch of water so it absorbs through the bottom. Then drain it after 20 mins.
 

canndo

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I have taken plugs of colonized substrate that have yielded one flush, weighed them, "dunked" them for a number of hours and weighed them again. There was little difference. There may well be an effect ffrom soaking in water but moisture is likely not a part of that.
 

7L!fTeD24

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So I wanna do another shoebox. I have 1 syringe left. I wanna do wbs or something similar. What do you guys think? I've watched some videos on how to pour boiling water into it, rinse it off really well, then pressure cook it.i don't know if all that's needed but I'd like it as sterile as possible. Just wondering how to inoculate and then how to spawn it to bulk in a shoebox? Also how to prep the bulk sub? Do I even need to spawn it to more sub? I've been looking around and seen so many teks. I figured I'd get straight to the point and ask you guys for the most recent info. I have brf, coir, and very but I've been told grain jars work better. So I tried pf tek and barely got anything, next brf jars went in the shoeboxes and are doing OK got around a half each so far I think, I been eatin em LOL. Any help trying to figure this out will be much appreciated thanks in advance
 

7L!fTeD24

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I guess I am on to something.. It appears as though you can not only buy those bags, but put less substrate in (and pressure cook it in the bag!?), and grow them right in the bags. I'm liking the looks of this tek. I'll update when I look into it more and come up with plan.

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I'm wondering if buying one of these preloaded grain bags is better. All I would have to do is pc it and inoculate.
 

7L!fTeD24

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I wanna try grain instead of brf, just trying to figure out how to make the jars because my pc only fits pints and half pints. I was thinking of just doing the pint jars with a hole in the middle of the lid to breath and inoculate. And how to inoculate? The brf jars had a layer if verm on top.
 

Thundercat

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I’ve done WBS in jars and it went pretty well. There is a link to my journal in the bottom of this post and the beginning has some of my early mushroom growing adventures.

If I remember correctly I washed the seed well and then boiled it for like 10 minutes and then spread it out on a screen to dry some. After it was dry enough it went into widemouth jars with a couple tbsp of verm at the bottom to catch any extra moisture. Only full the jar about 2/3 full. Then the lids went on and they got pressure cooked. Check my journal though because I know it has more detail then this, and should have pictures.

these days I usually use wheat, but I’ve done rye, and Milo at times based on availability. It gets soaked over night, then rinsed well and boiled for 8-10 minutes depending on the grain. Then it gets screen dried and scooped into jars and pressure cooked.

To innoculate I crack the jar slightly open in front of a flow hood and shoot about 2 cc of spores per quart of grain. Or more often I use pieces of colonized agar plates to drop in the jars.
 

7L!fTeD24

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I’ve done WBS in jars and it went pretty well. There is a link to my journal in the bottom of this post and the beginning has some of my early mushroom growing adventures.

If I remember correctly I washed the seed well and then boiled it for like 10 minutes and then spread it out on a screen to dry some. After it was dry enough it went into widemouth jars with a couple tbsp of verm at the bottom to catch any extra moisture. Only full the jar about 2/3 full. Then the lids went on and they got pressure cooked. Check my journal though because I know it has more detail then this, and should have pictures.

these days I usually use wheat, but I’ve done rye, and Milo at times based on availability. It gets soaked over night, then rinsed well and boiled for 8-10 minutes depending on the grain. Then it gets screen dried and scooped into jars and pressure cooked.

To innoculate I crack the jar slightly open in front of a flow hood and shoot about 2 cc of spores per quart of grain. Or more often I use pieces of colonized agar plates to drop in the jars.
Yeah I'm wondering how to inoculate. Can I inoculate by cracking the lid in a Sab? If not I'd have to put some kind of hole in the lid for inoculation and gas exchange. Man this is irritating trying to figure out a way to make this work and I know that it's so easy I'm going to check out your Journal thanks a lot.
 

7L!fTeD24

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I don't know if this is a stupid question but can I do the grain just like the brf. Can I do half pint jars of grain with the inoculation holes and sterilize in my instapot PC? Also could I use the dry layer of Verm on top of the grain? It would be cool if I could do it this way because I'm Familiar with it from the last time.
 

A.k.a

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With grain jars you need to make holes in the lid and some kind of filter like poly fill or tyvek. Then there’s no need for the verm layer, which acts as basically a crude barrier to keep any potential contam off the nutritional brf cake.
 

Drop That Sound

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I'm wondering if buying one of these preloaded grain bags is better. All I would have to do is pc it and inoculate.

Don't the preloaded bags come pre-pasteurized? Just noc it and wait right?!

I wanna buy some too, lemme know if you find a good deal, and go that route.

I don't have a big PC either, and rather use plastic bags of some kind instead of jars, so I could stuff it full. They make sealed oven bags to cook roast beefs in so I don't see why they wouldn't hold up for sterilizing substrates at high temps..

I'm too busy with other projects to do the work right now anyway, but i could probably handle a pre loaded grain bag that is all ready to go, and have plenty of spore syringes and tubs\plastic bags ;) to grow in.
 
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