Any way to make (clean and purged) bho firm/easy to handle after decarbing

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Ok, so a friend has run into a bit of a predicament that I havn't really seen before or found much information on. A few days ago they were decarbing a fair amount of concentrate in the oven on parchment at around 230 degrees Fahrenheit.
Usually you should keep an eye on it at such high temperatures but this friend sat down to finish a T.V. show and said it was in pretty long (about 40 min). The concentrate was collected but never solidified past a runny kind of goop. The product beforehand was very stable, purged, and dewaxed. Its very difficult to deal with as it is too runny to handle and is difficult to scrape off surfaces.

Anyways, this friend wanted to make the runny concentrate more firm so it can be handled more successfully. The original product was very clean and stable so would winterizing or any other processes help to make this a little easier to move around?
 

R&RHashman

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dewaxed is the same as winterized fyi. Basically. you have perma goo and you are not going to change it into anything other then perma goo sorry man good thing it was oil for edibles.
 

Fadedawg

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Ooops!

The answer is yes you can solidify it more, but you most likely won't be happy with the products effects.

It is the COOH carboxyl molecular chain, that stiffens carboxylic acid and raises their melt/boiling points, making them stiff at ambient temperatures.

There are few substances on planet Earth stickier than a decarboxylated cannabis Absolute (winterized), which is a liquid resin at ambient temperatures.

I once found around a pound of oil sitting in SPR's exhaust cabinet at 250F, where a technician borrowing our lab forgot and left it after a looog day, and I didn't discover it until about five days later. I stuck two bamboo skewers in and stirred it around, discovering it quite thick, so just unplugged the entire hot oil pot, and set everything on the lab counter to cool.

As it cooled, it got even thicker, and eventually I lifted it as a solid mass out of the stainless bain marie pot using the two skewers, and set it on PTFE film in the freezer to cool further. The technician retrieved it a few days later, and upon warming to room temperature, it remained solid, and could be passed around on the "popcycle stick" skewers, without sagging/slumping.

As you might imagine, the GC showed low THC and CBD, with elevated CBN, and no monoterpenes. Driving off the remaining monoterpenes through sublimation, most with a boiling point above 250F, may be what solidified it.

While I ASS-umed it was a lost cause, one of the proud owner's OMMP patient's with sleep issues, volunteered to test it for medicinal properties, and fell in love with it, bringing me to my final observation, which is that I've never made a concentrate so bad that someone wasn't extremely happy to receive it for free.

You can tame it enough for jarring/packaging by lowering the temperature, and still use it for dabbing with readily available wax sculpting/dental tools, but do have to develop a twist at the end to break the strand, and not stretch the softer stuff into loooog gossamer strands.
 

bez420

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So even winterizing with Dry Ice and a 2-5 micron glass filter wouldn't help? I gotta believe it would in some way, just a lil?! I so wanna go forward with the test, but running out of space. I only gooed it at about 125.

Anyone barely gooed, but revived?!
 

bez420

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Well here it goes. What was at 1 time leatherish shatter, that I pushed a bit past the heat barrier. Gone slightly on the goo side, will -90 dry ice winterization bring it back to the snappy side?! May the snappiness be with it!
 

chemphlegm

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Ok, so a friend has run into a bit of a predicament that I havn't really seen before or found much information on. A few days ago they were decarbing a fair amount of concentrate in the oven on parchment at around 230 degrees Fahrenheit.
Usually you should keep an eye on it at such high temperatures but this friend sat down to finish a T.V. show and said it was in pretty long (about 40 min). The concentrate was collected but never solidified past a runny kind of goop. The product beforehand was very stable, purged, and dewaxed. Its very difficult to deal with as it is too runny to handle and is difficult to scrape off surfaces.

Anyways, this friend wanted to make the runny concentrate more firm so it can be handled more successfully. The original product was very clean and stable so would winterizing or any other processes help to make this a little easier to move around?
freeze it?
 
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