Let me just say this too. I knew dang well the roaches would come out of the eall and troll this..I'm curious at what price point does it take to make it a good deal then ? Free ? I'm sure there would be smack talking even then. The real question is does it grow the weed? Does it do so at least as good as 1000w HID? At least these guys haven't made all that crazy of a claim by saying it's 1k at the wall but 1.5k equivalent...I don't believe that...But it's no China 100w at the wall 600 equivalent claim either. So given the choice of basically 100bucks for a used digital ballast and hood, 300$ for a gavita, or 400$ for said Cirrus 1k...What would you choose?