Any NHL fans in here?

st0wandgrow · Dec 21, 2015

torontoke said:
It's impossible to really compare because the equipment has come a long way too.
Paul Coffey could fly in the old led lined super tacks yet I bet he wouldn't even crack the 10 of fastest d men now a days.
Plus there's the argument about goalie equip and size to consider.

Paul Coffey was my childhood hero. I had the good fortune to play with him for a year towards the end of his career. He could still skate like the wind. I've never seen a guy fussier with his skates. He had 8-10 pairs of skates on the go at any given time, and would change in to a new pair of skates between every period. Zero hollow on his blades, and a tiny boot is the way he liked it. The poor trainers spent more time farting around on his skates than the rest of the team combined. He tipped them well at Xmas though! lol

FYI... I think Gretzky would do better in any era than Crosby. I'm a lil biased though growing up an Oilers fan. :-)

torontoke · Dec 21, 2015

st0wandgrow said:
Paul Coffey was my childhood hero. I had the good fortune to play with him for a year towards the end of his career. He could still skate like the wind. I've never seen a guy fussier with his skates. He had 8-10 pairs of skates on the go at any given time, and would change in to a new pair of skates between every period. Zero hollow on his blades, and a tiny boot is the way he liked it. The poor trainers spent more time farting around on his skates than the rest of the team combined. He tipped them well at Xmas though! lol

FYI... I think Gretzky would do better in any era than Crosby. I'm a lil biased though growing up an Oilers fan.

I agree Coffey was one of the best skaters ever. Him and Brian leetch are my two favorite d men of all time. But I don't think either would stand out as super fast in today's game.
I don't know about gretz in today's game tho. His shot was average and facing the bigger goalies and gear he would have a hard time scoring imo

st0wandgrow · Dec 21, 2015

torontoke said:
I agree Coffey was one of the best skaters ever. Him and Brian leetch are my two favorite d men of all time. But I don't think either would stand out as super fast in today's game.
I don't know about gretz in today's game tho. His shot was average and facing the bigger goalies and gear he would have a hard time scoring imo

Really Greatzky was average in a lot ways. Same with Yzerman. Smallish, not great skaters, not a great shot... but they both saw the ice and could think the game better than anyone. It's real tough to compare eras. Based strictly on physical talent, Mario Lemieux could be the goat.

st0wandgrow · Dec 21, 2015

And Pavel Datsyuk has the best hands ever!

torontoke · Dec 21, 2015

st0wandgrow said:
And Pavel Datsyuk has the best hands ever!

U know he is my favorite player of all time. No fair bro
He would have been a nightmare in the 80's
Imagine the lugs trying to contain him lol no chance he toys with the faster guys today.
How sweet would pavel bure be in today's game.

puck1969 · Dec 21, 2015

torontoke said:
U know he is my favorite player of all time. No fair bro
He would have been a nightmare in the 80's
Imagine the lugs trying to contain him lol no chance he toys with the faster guys today.
How sweet would pavel bure be in today's game.

I loved to watch the Russian Rocket in Vancouver. Such a dynamic player! I wonder how
Ovechkin would do in the 80's. I really think he woulda fucked some shit up!

rkymtnman · Dec 22, 2015

puck1969 said:
That's it, the goalie equip. is huge compared to what it used to be. I do think Coffey would
be right there with lighter skates etc. I think there is a wide margin in training and off season
than there used to be. Take a look at the goalie equip when I was a kid! That was state of the
art shit.

those goalie pads look like loaves of bread stacked on top of each other

puck1969 · Dec 22, 2015

rkymtnman said:
those goalie pads look like loaves of bread stacked on top of each other

Look at the glove also, as much as you can see anyway. No flared cuff by the wrist and a
small catching area.

rkymtnman · Dec 22, 2015

the B's and Flyers are on a bit of an upswing finally. hope they keep it going in '16.

yeah, looks like my tee ball glove from the 70's.

rkymtnman · Dec 22, 2015

talking about different players in different eras. would eric lindros been forced to play better/more effort in today's league now that players are much bigger, stronger and faster than when he started in the 90's? and would he have lived up to his lofty expectations?

puck1969 · Dec 22, 2015

rkymtnman said:
talking about different players in different eras. would eric lindros been forced to play better/more effort in today's league now that players are much bigger, stronger and faster than when he started in the 90's? and would he have lived up to his lofty expectations?

Well, he wouldn't have to worry about Scott Stevens giving him a serious concussion. I think
he would have an easier time in this era.

torontoke · Dec 22, 2015

Lindros had a bad habit of looking down while moving east-west that gets him run over in any era.
Stevens wouldn't be able to play in today's era. He was the predator ffs
Heartless to boot.

puck1969 · Dec 22, 2015

torontoke said:
Lindros had a bad habit of looking down while moving east-west that gets him run over in any era.
Stevens wouldn't be able to play in today's era. He was the predator ffs
Heartless to boot.

Yea but headshots get you suspended in this age.

torontoke · Dec 22, 2015

puck1969 said:
Yea but headshots get you suspended in this age.

so then no one hits anymore?
He would still get hit but the hitter would get suspended. Same outcome tho to his melon.
I think in a way that those big guys are at a disadvantage because they weren't that used to getting hit. Most guys avoided hitting players bigger than themselves but then those guys did get hit it was usually yard sale time.

puck1969 · Dec 22, 2015

torontoke said:
so then no one hits anymore?
He would still get hit but the hitter would get suspended. Same outcome tho to his melon.
I think in a way that those big guys are at a disadvantage because they weren't that used to getting hit. Most guys avoided hitting players bigger than themselves but then those guys did get hit it was usually yard sale time.

Back then what Scott Stevens did would get you a suspension is all I'm saying. The guy's that
have done it in the past (Matt Cooke etc.) have stopped hitting like that. Scott Stevens didn't even
get a penalty.

torontoke · Dec 22, 2015

puck1969 said:
Back then what Scott Stevens did would get you a suspension is all I'm saying. The guy's that
have done it in the past (Matt Cooke etc.) have stopped hitting like that. Scott Stevens didn't even
get a penalty.

I played the same way.
Most guys in that age bracket were taught you finish every check and if someone is stick handling with their head down u punish them.
The old saying keep your head up started by your coach yelling from the bench usually while you were laying on the ice wondering what happened.
I think it sucks that players now don't have to worry about keeping their heads up but I don't wish brain damage on anyone so I guess I'm torn. I also think it's dumb that if you hit someone legally you have to drop the gloves.

puck1969 · Dec 23, 2015

torontoke said:
I played the same way.
Most guys in that age bracket were taught you finish every check and if someone is stick handling with their head down u punish them.
The old saying keep your head up started by your coach yelling from the bench usually while you were laying on the ice wondering what happened.
I think it sucks that players now don't have to worry about keeping their heads up but I don't wish brain damage on anyone so I guess I'm torn. I also think it's dumb that if you hit someone legally you have to drop the gloves.

I agree, these day's guy's are turning towards the boards to draw a penalty when they have the puck.
They need to get that shit out of the game. I still think you can hit someone with their head down but
when they have their head down it's usually the first point of contact. They need to come up with a better
helmet so you don't get the severe concussion when you take a hit there and then let 'em hit!

rkymtnman · Dec 23, 2015

puck1969 said:
I agree, these day's guy's are turning towards the boards to draw a penalty when they have the puck.
They need to get that shit out of the game. I still think you can hit someone with their head down but
when they have their head down it's usually the first point of contact. They need to come up with a better
helmet so you don't get the severe concussion when you take a hit there and then let 'em hit!

you mean that old Jofa helmet that Gretzky used to wear isnt gonna protect from concussions? lol

puck1969 · Dec 24, 2015

Merry Christmas and Happy Hanukkah to all. All I want for Christmas is a Stanley Cup!!!! :eyesmoke:

torontoke · Dec 24, 2015

Best part of Christmas is the world jr tournament.
Merry Christmas and enjoy yourselves

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