Well, that's not really fair, sub's strains are such a big mix of multiple F1 hybrids that almost every breeder who made seeds in the 90s has some genetics in subcool's strains. I have only grown freebies from TGA, but out of 3 females I ended up with 1 decent keeper (which is Chernobyl, and apparently that's not one of Sub's strains) 1 decent plant that I might order a pack of to dive into (Dairy Queen) and one crap plant (also dairy queen). However, any parents can have a retarded kid. Regardless, the quality of sub's work is a reflection on Sub, not on the other breeders he uded. Many, many breeders have done amazing work with old sensi strains, and I have grown Durban and ERSB from them in the past decade and both were better than the TGA I grew. Sub's strains seem to have a lot of potential, but it seems a little too much like a slot machine to me.