Any clues? Advanced Nutrients
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cat of curiosity
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phosphorous deficient and starting to lack potassium
What to do?
cat of curiosity
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this, follow directions on the label...
http://www.ebay.com/itm/like/331950777683?lpid=82&chn=ps&ul_noapp=true
akboarder
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Could also check your pH just as a precaution too, see what the runoff is looking like. I've seen "deficiencies" that were caused merely by improper pH. If you're using a pH perfect line your pH might be a little low for soil. Looks good to me, I always get yellowing at around this stage and I don't mind it. I like the plant to use its nutrient stores in the leaves- adds to the flushing process 
be careful about slamming too much heavy PK too late or you might get chem taste if you're one who usually flushes. It's an arguable practice I know, just keep it in mind if its something you usually do. You look like you're getting close to done. My 2 cents.
be careful about slamming too much heavy PK too late or you might get chem taste if you're one who usually flushes. It's an arguable practice I know, just keep it in mind if its something you usually do. You look like you're getting close to done. My 2 cents.No use checking pH. I did that in the past, mostly 5.8 runoff. My feed it's 5.8ish if I remember correctly. I did use a pH meter and busted the pH of my feed and left the bottle for one day to see what happens. It was back to 5.8. So I decided not to measure the pH and ec. Whenever I asked AN if it could be pH problems they said "pH perfec"Could also check your pH just as a precaution too, see what the runoff is looking like. I've seen "deficiencies" that were caused merely by improper pH. If you're using a pH perfect line your pH might be a little low for soil. Looks good to me, I always get yellowing at around this stage and I don't mind it. I like the plant to use its nutrient stores in the leaves- adds to the flushing process
purplehays1
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that is low for soil. You are likely locking out multiple nutrients.
You use AN? What should I do? Stop using it?that is low for soil. You are likely locking out multiple nutrients.
purplehays1
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nah just raise the PH
It's pH perfect and pH perfect means that no matter what pH the feed is, the plant will still take all the nutrients it needs according to Advanced Nutrients support team.
Timboy5
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i would bump the ph up. A good additive that is beneficial and raises PH is silica. General Hydro has a nice one and it is cheap. You will only need the small quart bottle. Use it at 0.5ml per gallon with your advanced.
When i feed in soil I do 6.4.
Advanced nutrients says its ph perfect but the pictures say otherwise IMO.
I like advanced and ive used them for a couple years it is a solid line
When i feed in soil I do 6.4.
Advanced nutrients says its ph perfect but the pictures say otherwise IMO.
I like advanced and ive used them for a couple years it is a solid line
Thanks! I will do that. I like Advanced Nutrients, I know they are good but I am the one who need to learn more about them and deficiencies.
Armour Si??
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purplehays1
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well the ph perfect is likely keeping your ph at 5.8, which is ideal for hydro, but for soil u want 6.5. I bet some PH up would work, but ive never used a ph adjusting nutrient.
I just made some feed for tomorrow morning just to check and a just pH and check again in the morning before I use it. My phone meter was 0.2 off so I (I'm missing the word) made it better.
Checked water pH, 7.4.
Mixed the nutrients, checked, 6.5.
I will check again in the morning.
akboarder
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I've religiously used pH perfect base nutrients for the last few years first in DWC then in coco. For hydro, the pH is semi-perfect but I find even that once i'm done mixing, it's even usually a little low for hydro, at around 5.3-5.4. I am using RO water though and I think it's my additives that do it. For the most part, if you only use Advanced base nutrients in RO water, the pH will be solid for hydro, at around 5.8. Start using Terpinator, Massive, Aptus, your pH will not be "perfect". The pH is more important than the nutrients you use. I'll get better results at a proper pH with General Hydro than somebody running Advanced with an improper pH if that puts it into perspective. Advanced bases do use Folic and Fulvic acid built into them though which does help raise the pH range that nutrients are absorbed, but I do not think that is grounds to pay no attention to it.
This is great advice, couldn't have said it better myself. MAKE SURE TO MIX SILICA FIRST BEFORE ANY OTHER NUTRIENTS and then run a pump or continuously stir in your reservoir as you are mixing up other nutrients. Silica is volatile and will recombine, locking out other nutrients. Ive noticed before particularly that the silica does not get along well with the pH Perfect Micro by advanced. Mix slow and stir constantly and you should be good. Keep an eye out for milky white solution, almost foggy looking feed water. That's the silica recombining. And as said, get that pH up to around 6.5 and i'm sure you'll be seeing better results.
Thanks, I have it. Was gonna wait for last 2 weeks to use it..
For super it's not the pH. Checked it and it's 6.5...
Daggy
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@cat of curiosity
Fragment from AN team's email to me:
"You will have enough of the PK you think may be missing: Adding a product like Hammer Head will spike your PK as well and it was never meant to be used with the pH Perfect."
What about that?
I used to pull at least 5 yellow, all most dead, easy to pull leaves from a day to another. After using HH for 3 feeds, even the ones that were all most dead, full yellow, are hard to pull out... idk man, I am always confused by AN team.
Fragment from AN team's email to me:
"You will have enough of the PK you think may be missing: Adding a product like Hammer Head will spike your PK as well and it was never meant to be used with the pH Perfect."
What about that?
I used to pull at least 5 yellow, all most dead, easy to pull leaves from a day to another. After using HH for 3 feeds, even the ones that were all most dead, full yellow, are hard to pull out... idk man, I am always confused by AN team.