Another watering question...

curious2garden

curious2garden

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bk78 said:
why you gotta call us idiots tho?
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On the plus side he included microgrowery too.

Jsw396 said:
I definitely want some sort of autowatering. You're misunderstanding me. I should have said I'm gonna keep doing this the rest of this grow. I definitely want some sort of auto system but wouldn't that screw up my roots this late into flowering?
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No and neither would the Blumats. I don't use them which is why I recommended google. When my coco needs watering twice day I walk upstairs and water them. Then again I'm home anyway and don't mind. If I do mind I throw in top irrigation lines similar to PJ's attach them to a pump and timer.
 
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Jsw396

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curious2garden said:
You have the patience of a saint :hug:
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I really like how that is set up. Yeah I'm gonna have to learn a bit more about them.
I mean I'm sure it's as simple as stick in it, set it up, and you're good to go. I just have to learn about the flow rates, timers, runoff, and preventing flooding or anything. Seems like a new ballpark I would have to get used too.

It started watering every three days... That turned to every 2, and now everyday. 7 weeks left on one plant, ide say 5-6 weeks on one, and 3 weeks left give or take on the the last one. If it doesn't screw up the roots that's good, I wasn't too sure on that. I sort of want to keep hand watering them until finish but man I really hate the back plant, watering it at least.
With these autowatering systems, do they water evenly? Do you have to worry about them flooding the trays, or salt build up? Are these the type of systems they reccomended drip clean for to prevent build up?
 
PJ Diaz

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Jsw396 said:
I really like how that is set up. Yeah I'm gonna have to learn a bit more about them.
I mean I'm sure it's as simple as stick in it, set it up, and you're good to go. I just have to learn about the flow rates, timers, runoff, and preventing flooding or anything. Seems like a new ballpark I would have to get used too.

It started watering every three days... That turned to every 2, and now everyday. 7 weeks left on one plant, ide say 5-6 weeks on one, and 3 weeks left give or take on the the last one. If it doesn't screw up the roots that's good, I wasn't too sure on that. I sort of want to keep hand watering them until finish but man I really hate the back plant, watering it at least.
With these autowatering systems, do they water evenly? Do you have to worry about them flooding the trays, or salt build up? Are these the type of systems they reccomended drip clean for to prevent build up?
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Coco is really good at wicking so they do water pretty evenly. You have to make sure that you have a waste drain-off situation. Personally I just use baking cooling racks over small 1-gal totes which catches the runoff, and then I shop-vac it out. Having ample runoff is important to prevent the potential salt build-up you are alluding to. Yeah, it takes a bit of dialing in as far as flow rate, but once you have it set you don't have too much to think about, maybe increase or decrease the time here or there depending on how much runoff you are getting.
 
curious2garden

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Jsw396 said:
I really like how that is set up. Yeah I'm gonna have to learn a bit more about them.
I mean I'm sure it's as simple as stick in it, set it up, and you're good to go. I just have to learn about the flow rates, timers, runoff, and preventing flooding or anything. Seems like a new ballpark I would have to get used too.

It started watering every three days... That turned to every 2, and now everyday. 7 weeks left on one plant, ide say 5-6 weeks on one, and 3 weeks left give or take on the the last one. If it doesn't screw up the roots that's good, I wasn't too sure on that. I sort of want to keep hand watering them until finish but man I really hate the back plant, watering it at least.
With these autowatering systems, do they water evenly? Do you have to worry about them flooding the trays, or salt build up? Are these the type of systems they reccomended drip clean for to prevent build up?
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You are way over thinking this. You're in hydro with established plants. It's next to impossible to overwater hydro unless you do not have a developed root structure.

I poke stakes into my medium to hold up my plants etc... they don't care. These are pretty resilient once they are larger.

Go and reread PJ Diaz's posts to you. He told you exactly how to do it. Until you do something it will simply get more and more confusing because we all do things a bit differently. That's the point. You start on something then you make it your own.
 
Jsw396

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PJ Diaz said:
Coco is really good at wicking so they do water pretty evenly. You have to make sure that you have a waste drain-off situation. Personally I just use baking cooling racks over small 1-gal totes which catches the runoff, and then I shop-vac it out. Having ample runoff is important to prevent the potential salt build-up you are alluding to. Yeah, it takes a bit of dialing in as far as flow rate, but once you have it set you don't have too much to think about, maybe increase or decrease the time here or there depending on how much runoff you are getting.
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Sounds good. Yeah right now mine are sitting on elevators in saucers that hold quite a bit. I use a shopvac as well. Genius on the cooling racks. Yeah I'm definitely gonna look it more, it could make growing a little easier. Especially with the trellis up.
 
BenGman

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Bruh you asked one simple question as if you should feed every watering or not, I gave you the best answer ..then you carry on with 10 questions people haven't answered but yet you failed to ask in the first place?! , Like we are mind readers or something...what a dumb fuck, you are the idiot.
 
Jsw396

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BenGman said:
Bruh you asked one simple question as if you should feed every watering or not, I gave you the best answer ..then you carry on with 10 questions people haven't answered but yet you failed to ask in the first place?! , Like we are mind readers or something...what a dumb fuck, you are the idiot.
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Yeah and before you someone brought up drip irrigation which led to all the questions. Stupid ass fuck, learn how to read dumb ass.. Trust me I seen your bland dumbass response. You clarified nothing either. You're one of the idiots I was talking about.
 
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guitarguy10

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you want to water in coco only multiple times a day because coco has greater oxygen saturation when it's wet and it drains quickly enough that it won't flood and kill the roots. in any other medium watering multiple times a day would be bad.

You can cycle just water to water with nutrients, this is called fertigation. you would decide to just water or water+ nutes based on the EC of the runoff. you can grow weed just fine only fertigating (water +nutes), its a very hardy plant that can take a lot of abuse / resources but there are many other plants out there that need a schedule of watering (just water) and fertigating (water+nutes). It is a very important principle in agriculture to cycle watering and fertigating but for weed, especially in a medium that quickly exchanges solvated ions (aka dissolved nutes) such as coco it's not as important.

Best bet is to experiment minimally and keep a log of what your doing and give them more or less depending on how they respond, which is something you only get a feel for after growing for a while.
 
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Jsw396 said:
If I'm watering my plants 2-3 times a day, can I do just ph water w/ calmag in the morning and then add my nutes an do regular feeding later in the day or do I absolutely need nutrients every watering? In a soiless peat coco mix.

Currently I've only been watering once about 3pm everyday. Just figured maybe I could water them in the morning with just calmag phed with no runoff, and around 3pm hit them with regular watering with nutes and 20-30% runoff. Thanks guys!!
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BenGman said:
Always water with nutes.:-|
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As BenGman told you you always water with nutrients. This isn't as complex as you're trying to make it.

If you want to set up a complex water water ca/mg water water nutrient several times a day you can do anything you want. If your plants show deficits or toxicity just change it around. But I'm far too lazy. If my plants need watered they get it from my mixed res with the nutrients they get every day.

The only exception is once every couple weeks I'm too hot, lazy or doing something else so I water my plants with tap water only (mine is around 250 PPM) this is flushing in hydro so I leach out any excess salts that might be left in my medium. Then I grumble and mix another reservoir.
 
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